The Werewolf Game
Game #3366: Valentines Day Massacre
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This game finished in 6 rounds.
RFM ((((thanks))))
Welcome to Round 4!
The humans finally found a furry one. He was probably the shyest of them all. . . .
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Welcome to Round 4!
The humans finally found a furry one. He was probably the shyest of them all. . . .
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SPV Cehu
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Seriously!!??
Will vote someone
Changeable
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Will vote someone
Changeable
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debc1 wrote:
What?
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Seriously!!??
What?
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Another girl gone
Really not cool
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Really not cool
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Deb, looks like it's just you and me for the remaining females! I guess the guys want the game to themselves.
Waiting for snow to post IDs then I'll vote. Hope our Seer is still here and has some good news when the time is right.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Waiting for snow to post IDs then I'll vote. Hope our Seer is still here and has some good news when the time is right.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Deb's frustration sounds disingenuous , bit just spv for now
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
It does doesn't it
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SPV for Deb.
100% convinced at least one of Froggy/Deb is a wolf and that comment is veering me way more towards her
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
100% convinced at least one of Froggy/Deb is a wolf and that comment is veering me way more towards her
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Wow, Stewie being a wolf genuine surprises me, at least the rush at the end of the round makes a little sense
will go back and think it over
We know Froggy is very reluctant (at most) to bus, so I think she is very low on the list. Deb had an opportunity to vote Stew when it was a Frog/Stew situation (and she could have voted the dude over the girl) but didn't...so Deb is def on my radar. Will maintain an SPV until the gang gathers
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
will go back and think it over
We know Froggy is very reluctant (at most) to bus, so I think she is very low on the list. Deb had an opportunity to vote Stew when it was a Frog/Stew situation (and she could have voted the dude over the girl) but didn't...so Deb is def on my radar. Will maintain an SPV until the gang gathers
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Second vote for deb
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The_Spider wrote:
This sounds arrogant
I think at least one of the three is a wolf and any of the three would bus
Would like to hear something other than it's deb
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Deb's frustration sounds disingenuous , bit just spv for now
This sounds arrogant
I think at least one of the three is a wolf and any of the three would bus
Would like to hear something other than it's deb
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How Deb?
How does that possibly sound arrogant?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
How does that possibly sound arrogant?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
How dan!
I will tell you how dan because you can't hear me, why wouldn't I be a little miffed? You can't hear or feel my intentions, you just think it and it has to be.
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I will tell you how dan because you can't hear me, why wouldn't I be a little miffed? You can't hear or feel my intentions, you just think it and it has to be.
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Rove temporarily dropping down my suspect list a bit.
Wanna hear from Sky, Oceans, and Fun, probably in that order.
Stewie being a wolf is an interesting development. The flurry of votes leaves it a significant possibility one of the voters is a bus, leaving me, Sky, Spider, and Froggy.
Three women being eaten in a row. Last round was definitely intentional and the Whov eating clearly is as well.
If the Whov eating was incidental and was actually a seer hunt, she started with a vote for Spider before switching to fun and then finally landing on Stewie.
That's really the only thing that could switch me off Deb at this point barring some "divine" intervention from the seer.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Wanna hear from Sky, Oceans, and Fun, probably in that order.
Stewie being a wolf is an interesting development. The flurry of votes leaves it a significant possibility one of the voters is a bus, leaving me, Sky, Spider, and Froggy.
Three women being eaten in a row. Last round was definitely intentional and the Whov eating clearly is as well.
If the Whov eating was incidental and was actually a seer hunt, she started with a vote for Spider before switching to fun and then finally landing on Stewie.
That's really the only thing that could switch me off Deb at this point barring some "divine" intervention from the seer.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
celtichero wrote:
And kind of me, I did put stewie in the lead
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Stewie being a wolf is an interesting development. The flurry of votes leaves it a significant possibility one of the voters is a bus, leaving me, Sky, Spider, and Froggy.
And kind of me, I did put stewie in the lead
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It's not arrogant to suggest, in a game of deception, that you think someone might be being deceptive. I'd probably be more irritated by the suggestion if I didn't think it was potentially phoney. There's been plenty of dude-kill heavy games (one within a handful of games ago) none of the dudes pitched a fit about it, so deal
Will wait till morning to further evaluate
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Will wait till morning to further evaluate
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
"Sky, oceans, and fun"
Sounds like a travel brochure
Also, as I stated, froggy doesn't bus , unless that has recently changed, she should be off to the very edge of anyone's radar for now.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Sounds like a travel brochure
Also, as I stated, froggy doesn't bus , unless that has recently changed, she should be off to the very edge of anyone's radar for now.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Are you telling me everything you say is deceptive?
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Never mind
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Let's see last round Spider voted Stewie before switching to debc!! Then he went back to Stewie. But he wasn't the one who started adding votes.
It also seems curious the end votes were singular except Stewie and nothing was competing. Froggy wanted competing to save herself and told us to look who votes her later. Except everyone else after
changed to Stewie. But I can't see a wolf doing that to avoid voting frog. Unless frog is also wolf? Spider is saying frog doesn't bus. What do u make of this?? But the situation of both frog and stewie being wolves would change the bus situation. Does bus mean just any kind of wolf vote wolf situation??
Who is Dan again, sorry?
It also seems curious the end votes were singular except Stewie and nothing was competing. Froggy wanted competing to save herself and told us to look who votes her later. Except everyone else after
changed to Stewie. But I can't see a wolf doing that to avoid voting frog. Unless frog is also wolf? Spider is saying frog doesn't bus. What do u make of this?? But the situation of both frog and stewie being wolves would change the bus situation. Does bus mean just any kind of wolf vote wolf situation??
Who is Dan again, sorry?
Ok firstly great we got a wolf, I'm slightly annoyed though at my reluctance. But for the record it was just fortunate
Lots of strange things here. Why eat who? That makes me think Rove to be honest. The whole seer seems Wolfy thing - we discuss who last round and he eats her. Also why wasn't Rove eaten for his fairly pointed "Deb human" post? This can only mean that Rove is a wolf or Deb is. Otherwise I don't get why the wolves would take the risk of leaving him in the game.
I've temporarily cooled on oceans.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Lots of strange things here. Why eat who? That makes me think Rove to be honest. The whole seer seems Wolfy thing - we discuss who last round and he eats her. Also why wasn't Rove eaten for his fairly pointed "Deb human" post? This can only mean that Rove is a wolf or Deb is. Otherwise I don't get why the wolves would take the risk of leaving him in the game.
I've temporarily cooled on oceans.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
The_Spider wrote:
It really does
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
"Sky, oceans, and fun"
Sounds like a travel brochure
Sounds like a travel brochure
It really does
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
oceans wrote:
Pretty much yes, it just means to throw a fellow wolf under the bus by being part of the majority that shoots them to try and appear more human.
Dan is Spider.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Does bus mean just any kind of wolf vote wolf situation??
Who is Dan again, sorry?
Who is Dan again, sorry?
Pretty much yes, it just means to throw a fellow wolf under the bus by being part of the majority that shoots them to try and appear more human.
Dan is Spider.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I am still sticking with the frog. I strongly think at least one of the stewie voters is a wolf. Looked like they sabotaged one of there own to disguise their own identity
Spv for Rove.(If we still have a seer)
He seems suspicious now that Rove was eaten.
The_Spider wrote:
Suspicious. Could possibly be deflecting attention from the game and more to humor.
I worked on a deb list, some analysis is here.
Colange-contributing relatively much, leaning human
Rove-very suspicious, leaning wolf
Spider-the post I quoted is a bit suspicious. On the fence
Deb-Not so sure, 3 women have been eaten in a row, so I'll say slightly leaning human
Frog-Same with deb, but then many people says she doesn't bus, so I'll say human
Celtic-have not analyzed him much, there isn't much basis for him
Oceans-same with celtic
Sky-seems human, I'll say leaning
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He seems suspicious now that Rove was eaten.
The_Spider wrote:
"Sky, oceans, and fun"
Sounds like a travel brochure
Also, as I stated, froggy doesn't bus , unless that has recently changed, she should be off to the very edge of anyone's radar for now.
Sounds like a travel brochure
Also, as I stated, froggy doesn't bus , unless that has recently changed, she should be off to the very edge of anyone's radar for now.
Suspicious. Could possibly be deflecting attention from the game and more to humor.
I worked on a deb list, some analysis is here.
Colange-contributing relatively much, leaning human
Rove-very suspicious, leaning wolf
Spider-the post I quoted is a bit suspicious. On the fence
Deb-Not so sure, 3 women have been eaten in a row, so I'll say slightly leaning human
Frog-Same with deb, but then many people says she doesn't bus, so I'll say human
Celtic-have not analyzed him much, there isn't much basis for him
Oceans-same with celtic
Sky-seems human, I'll say leaning
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I'll venture that one of Rove and Deb is definitely a wolf. But who is the third? Might be a tough one.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Well, here I am again in a majority. Colange continues to vote for me for no reason.
It is correct that I do not bus. I do not feel it is fair to vote for a fellow wolf just to seem human. I have been bussed when a wolf and it is a very frustrating feeling to see a team mate turn on you. This is why I do not bus.
I will be back in the morning to vote.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
It is correct that I do not bus. I do not feel it is fair to vote for a fellow wolf just to seem human. I have been bussed when a wolf and it is a very frustrating feeling to see a team mate turn on you. This is why I do not bus.
I will be back in the morning to vote.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Skybet wrote:
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Lots of strange things here. Why eat who? That makes me think Rove to be honest. The whole seer seems Wolfy thing - we discuss who last round and he eats her
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celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for Colange
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for Skybet
Skybet voted for Rove_Tarts
The_Spider voted for Skybet
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Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for Colange
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for Skybet
Skybet voted for Rove_Tarts
The_Spider voted for Skybet
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Fun dude I agree with the principle you posted, but it matters in Round 1, and maybe a slow Round 2, I have consistently posted analysis throughout the entire game (even adding analysis about Froggy in that same post). You need a sense of perspective with these things.
At the risk of sounding condescending, I think some of you guys mishandle "bussing" situations. A vote on a wolf (except if it is done it a way that is suspicious in and of itself) should (almost) always weigh toward human evidence. The timing of the vote, and that players propensity to bus can significantly reduce the weight of that evidence, but it's at worst 0 or worth very little. You still need wolf evidence (or at least process of elimination evidence to consider a vote for them).
X's vote on Stewie isn't worth much because it could have easily been a bus (fine).
I'm voting X, he could have bussed Stewie (not really strong)
I think the main exception to this is must lynch when wolves tend to vote each other with abandon
I also think it's reasonable to consider one of Deb/Rove a wolf, but I don't really put much stock in Rove not being eaten (I think "why wasn't X eaten" to be generally weak evidence as there are many people to eat and many reasons why they may be eaten). If I was a wolf, I don't think I would have considered Rove's post seerish. I do agree that Hooves was a weird eating (Ill check the last round for her commentary). I think too much is being made of Hooves' gender. It's too late into the game for wolves to be playing some stupid games instead of seer hunting.
I don't see much tactical value in this kind of eating "Bluff" anyway, as who are you trying to incriminate, Froggy and Deb?
Will do a Deb list when I get to the office a bit later
I'm not absolutely clearing Froggy at this point...but Froggy is a bad majority in my view
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
At the risk of sounding condescending, I think some of you guys mishandle "bussing" situations. A vote on a wolf (except if it is done it a way that is suspicious in and of itself) should (almost) always weigh toward human evidence. The timing of the vote, and that players propensity to bus can significantly reduce the weight of that evidence, but it's at worst 0 or worth very little. You still need wolf evidence (or at least process of elimination evidence to consider a vote for them).
X's vote on Stewie isn't worth much because it could have easily been a bus (fine).
I'm voting X, he could have bussed Stewie (not really strong)
I think the main exception to this is must lynch when wolves tend to vote each other with abandon
I also think it's reasonable to consider one of Deb/Rove a wolf, but I don't really put much stock in Rove not being eaten (I think "why wasn't X eaten" to be generally weak evidence as there are many people to eat and many reasons why they may be eaten). If I was a wolf, I don't think I would have considered Rove's post seerish. I do agree that Hooves was a weird eating (Ill check the last round for her commentary). I think too much is being made of Hooves' gender. It's too late into the game for wolves to be playing some stupid games instead of seer hunting.
I don't see much tactical value in this kind of eating "Bluff" anyway, as who are you trying to incriminate, Froggy and Deb?
Will do a Deb list when I get to the office a bit later
I'm not absolutely clearing Froggy at this point...but Froggy is a bad majority in my view
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
froggygg wrote:
I bussed last game and won the game for us largely because of it. Bussing can be an essential strategy to winning. I have no problem being bussed if I'm in trouble and benefits the team. It is a team game after all.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Well, here I am again in a majority. Colange continues to vote for me for no reason.
It is correct that I do not bus. I do not feel it is fair to vote for a fellow wolf just to seem human. I have been bussed when a wolf and it is a very frustrating feeling to see a team mate turn on you. This is why I do not bus.
I will be back in the morning to vote.
It is correct that I do not bus. I do not feel it is fair to vote for a fellow wolf just to seem human. I have been bussed when a wolf and it is a very frustrating feeling to see a team mate turn on you. This is why I do not bus.
I will be back in the morning to vote.
I bussed last game and won the game for us largely because of it. Bussing can be an essential strategy to winning. I have no problem being bussed if I'm in trouble and benefits the team. It is a team game after all.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Maybe you misunderstood my point. If Rove and Deb were both human, I would consider him too much of a risk not to eat. If Deb or rove was a wolf however he would not be considered a candidate.
Would you really leave him in the game following that statement if you were a wolf and both rove and Deb were human?
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Would you really leave him in the game following that statement if you were a wolf and both rove and Deb were human?
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I understand the point Sky is trying to make but the mathematics are on Rove's side. The majority of players left are human, so it stands to reason that it is more likely than not that Deb is in fact a human.
Regardless, I still believe Deb is the best shot. Froggy plays a weirdly moral game off werewolf so her bussing Stewie is unlikely. I think the Whov eating is still a frame-up on the guys considering Deb went from claiming it could be coincidence in round 3 to now being all gung-ho about it.
I think that if even if we decide to de-value the gender eatings, which I don't quite want to do, this round should really be one of Rove or Deb, and of those 2, I find Deb more suspicious.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Regardless, I still believe Deb is the best shot. Froggy plays a weirdly moral game off werewolf so her bussing Stewie is unlikely. I think the Whov eating is still a frame-up on the guys considering Deb went from claiming it could be coincidence in round 3 to now being all gung-ho about it.
I think that if even if we decide to de-value the gender eatings, which I don't quite want to do, this round should really be one of Rove or Deb, and of those 2, I find Deb more suspicious.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
I can't say how I might have reacted with any degree of certainty, but I wouldn't be too particularly concerned with a naked, singular claim about a human (Rove is prone to making these off the cuff frank "x is human") so that factors in as well, plus I think it is consistent with his reticent approach throughout the round.
All that being said, I think both Rove and Deb are reasonable candidate, so you could very well be right, I just don't think a non-eating (in this circumstance) changes much for me.
Going to do a Deb list
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
All that being said, I think both Rove and Deb are reasonable candidate, so you could very well be right, I just don't think a non-eating (in this circumstance) changes much for me.
Going to do a Deb list
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Skybet wrote:
Pretended to be seer (Literally first game)
Pretended to be seer
Same
Here too
Guess what?
Boop
See white text
Oh hey another
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Maybe you misunderstood my point. If Rove and Deb were both human, I would consider him too much of a risk not to eat. If Deb or rove was a wolf however he would not be considered a candidate.
Pretended to be seer (Literally first game)
Pretended to be seer
Same
Here too
Guess what?
Boop
See white text
Oh hey another
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Spider I just looked at your post again about Rove at the end of the last round with the big cathartic I told you so and I think you might be onto something.
Rove looks like he's disengaged from the game, because what would normally be dozens of wordy posts seemingly about nothing have turned into a handful of brief posts about nothing.
Rove also uses a post of mine earlier in the round to apply some suspicion to himself when I hadn't considered him. This is...weird to me. It's either breathtaking arrogance to declare himself a suspect when I hadn't (based on voting lists I'm not even sure what he said to be true), which I mean, totally possible; or something else.
I've had my suspicion of Rove slowly fade the last round or two but I think that basically extinguishes that. I refuse to be believe any wolf, even Rove would be that arrogant. I just can't. If I'm wrong, then well bravo Rove.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Rove looks like he's disengaged from the game, because what would normally be dozens of wordy posts seemingly about nothing have turned into a handful of brief posts about nothing.
Rove also uses a post of mine earlier in the round to apply some suspicion to himself when I hadn't considered him. This is...weird to me. It's either breathtaking arrogance to declare himself a suspect when I hadn't (based on voting lists I'm not even sure what he said to be true), which I mean, totally possible; or something else.
I've had my suspicion of Rove slowly fade the last round or two but I think that basically extinguishes that. I refuse to be believe any wolf, even Rove would be that arrogant. I just can't. If I'm wrong, then well bravo Rove.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
DEB LIST
Celt
Some of the things I think about wolf Celt are evident (very proactive in the game), but they are pressed to such a strong degree that I think this is more just an evolution of the Celt brand. I think most of his posts have been reasonable, and his generally feelings largely match mine. What I will say is several of his posts have the Celt "checklist" feel, where he has a one sentence write off of 1 key point a piece, one of his wolf tells, but it's a weak signal. His vote on Stewie was last, so if we were talking bus, he certainly got on at the last stop. I feel like he's played well enough to consider human, but at the same time...not
50/50
Deb
Deb's outrage sounds a little over the top this round, there are a few possibilites.
1)Deb is human, and her outrage, if not imo justified, is at least earnest.
2) Deb is a wolf, with Froggy, very unlikely scenario, but in this case, the outrage is completely fake.
3) Deb is a wolf, with a male wolf, her outrage is genuine, but directed at her partner. If this is the case, I think the wolf is someone Deb has less personal familiarity with (for example, I don't think she would nag Sky about his night choice).
I feel like Debs entire play has been 'woe is me' over being suspect. Which is fine to a degree, but at a certain point, you need to move on to some analysis.
I just don't have a confident read either way on Deb, but she is a reasonable wolf candidate
leaning wolf
Froghammer
I feel like the subject of a Frog bus came up recently, and to my great surprise, she may have actually bussed?! Does anyone recall this game (I suppose I will look for it). This wouldn't mean Froggy bussed Stewie per se, but it would certainly weaken my convictions. For now, even if Froggy bussed, I'll call that a one-off. She's off the table this round for me, but I will investigate.
human, pending an investigation
Rove
I'm very polarized on this one. I've listed the several reasons I've suspected Rove, but his round 3, "silent treatment" comes of as human. I'm not sure what the deal was with the deliberate disengagement from the game..I have thoughts but I've picked on Rove enough this game. He has come back sounding much more human since the early portion of the game. Not enough to totally sway me, but I'm at least on the fence about him now
50/50
Sky
I haven't at all seen the marker I look for with wolf Sky (the opposite mostly in fact). I'm no expert at it, so this isn't gospel, but I lean human on Sky for now. His vote on Stewie was pretty consequential toward getting him shot, and it was pretty needless (Spid/Sky/Celt had almost total control of the end direction of the round). It's not an impossible move for Sky, but he's well down my list for now.
human
Colange
Has been fairly uninvolved in the game (which makes Fun's claim of the opposite interesting to me), regardless, I think this is a human indicator, as last game where he was a wolf he was a bit more involved. As was noted he went from "confident to ...i forget the word....but doubtful?. Now last game he was a wolf with Sky, so maybe he felt the need to contribute more, but in general, I think he has just settled in as a fairly quiet human. He's by no means off my radar but
leaning human
Fun
As just noted with Colange, I find that comment about him a little odd, but that aside, I don't find Fun particularly suspect. The only thing that would stand out is the Hooves eating (as she was after him earlier in the round, though not to a blazingly obvious "I found a wolf" degree that would suggest she divined him, but certainly possible). I think what stands out as human to me is his consistent gunning for Rove. I think it's more human for someone to zero in on someone like this, as normally wolves have a more open/flexible view about suspects. Single-mindedness is a human trait (generally speaking) to me
leaning human
Oceans
I'm not sure how to gauge Ocean, as he clearly seems to have experience or familiarity with some of the ideas of the game (yet at the same time is a novice on terms like "bussing") He strikes me as generally human so far.
human
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Celt
Some of the things I think about wolf Celt are evident (very proactive in the game), but they are pressed to such a strong degree that I think this is more just an evolution of the Celt brand. I think most of his posts have been reasonable, and his generally feelings largely match mine. What I will say is several of his posts have the Celt "checklist" feel, where he has a one sentence write off of 1 key point a piece, one of his wolf tells, but it's a weak signal. His vote on Stewie was last, so if we were talking bus, he certainly got on at the last stop. I feel like he's played well enough to consider human, but at the same time...not
50/50
Deb
Deb's outrage sounds a little over the top this round, there are a few possibilites.
1)Deb is human, and her outrage, if not imo justified, is at least earnest.
2) Deb is a wolf, with Froggy, very unlikely scenario, but in this case, the outrage is completely fake.
3) Deb is a wolf, with a male wolf, her outrage is genuine, but directed at her partner. If this is the case, I think the wolf is someone Deb has less personal familiarity with (for example, I don't think she would nag Sky about his night choice).
I feel like Debs entire play has been 'woe is me' over being suspect. Which is fine to a degree, but at a certain point, you need to move on to some analysis.
I just don't have a confident read either way on Deb, but she is a reasonable wolf candidate
leaning wolf
Froghammer
I feel like the subject of a Frog bus came up recently, and to my great surprise, she may have actually bussed?! Does anyone recall this game (I suppose I will look for it). This wouldn't mean Froggy bussed Stewie per se, but it would certainly weaken my convictions. For now, even if Froggy bussed, I'll call that a one-off. She's off the table this round for me, but I will investigate.
human, pending an investigation
Rove
I'm very polarized on this one. I've listed the several reasons I've suspected Rove, but his round 3, "silent treatment" comes of as human. I'm not sure what the deal was with the deliberate disengagement from the game..I have thoughts but I've picked on Rove enough this game. He has come back sounding much more human since the early portion of the game. Not enough to totally sway me, but I'm at least on the fence about him now
50/50
Sky
I haven't at all seen the marker I look for with wolf Sky (the opposite mostly in fact). I'm no expert at it, so this isn't gospel, but I lean human on Sky for now. His vote on Stewie was pretty consequential toward getting him shot, and it was pretty needless (Spid/Sky/Celt had almost total control of the end direction of the round). It's not an impossible move for Sky, but he's well down my list for now.
human
Colange
Has been fairly uninvolved in the game (which makes Fun's claim of the opposite interesting to me), regardless, I think this is a human indicator, as last game where he was a wolf he was a bit more involved. As was noted he went from "confident to ...i forget the word....but doubtful?. Now last game he was a wolf with Sky, so maybe he felt the need to contribute more, but in general, I think he has just settled in as a fairly quiet human. He's by no means off my radar but
leaning human
Fun
As just noted with Colange, I find that comment about him a little odd, but that aside, I don't find Fun particularly suspect. The only thing that would stand out is the Hooves eating (as she was after him earlier in the round, though not to a blazingly obvious "I found a wolf" degree that would suggest she divined him, but certainly possible). I think what stands out as human to me is his consistent gunning for Rove. I think it's more human for someone to zero in on someone like this, as normally wolves have a more open/flexible view about suspects. Single-mindedness is a human trait (generally speaking) to me
leaning human
Oceans
I'm not sure how to gauge Ocean, as he clearly seems to have experience or familiarity with some of the ideas of the game (yet at the same time is a novice on terms like "bussing") He strikes me as generally human so far.
human
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Rove_Tarts wrote:
Rove this doesn't help your case considering you rarely live long after your seer intimations.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Pretended to be seer (Literally first game)
Pretended to be seer
Same
Here too
Guess what?
Boop
See white text
Oh hey another
Pretended to be seer
Same
Here too
Guess what?
Boop
See white text
Oh hey another
Rove this doesn't help your case considering you rarely live long after your seer intimations.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
celtichero wrote:
In the last 3 games I was shot twice and left in to the last round
So, not really the wolves to blame
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Rove_Tarts wrote:
Rove this doesn't help your case considering you rarely live long after your seer intimations.
Pretended to be seer (Literally first game)
Pretended to be seer
Same
Here too
Guess what?
Boop
See white text
Oh hey another
Pretended to be seer
Same
Here too
Guess what?
Boop
See white text
Oh hey another
Rove this doesn't help your case considering you rarely live long after your seer intimations.
In the last 3 games I was shot twice and left in to the last round
So, not really the wolves to blame
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This game, Spider?
Edit, link should work now
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Edit, link should work now
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I've got that nagging feeling.
Like I can still hear that post ringing in my ears.
"Relax "
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Like I can still hear that post ringing in my ears.
"Relax "
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
If option 3 about Deb is correct, it would like peg her partner as one of fun/oceans/colange.
There's also option 4: her partner is a wolf but he outrage is still fake.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
There's also option 4: her partner is a wolf but he outrage is still fake.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
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celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for Colange
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for Skybet
Skybet voted for Rove_Tarts
The_Spider voted for Skybet
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Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for Colange
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for Skybet
Skybet voted for Rove_Tarts
The_Spider voted for Skybet
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I went as far back as Game 3273 (I was gonna stop at 3300 but looked for one more game where Froggy was a wolf, and wasn't shot first..ie.. could have bussed...but lost endurance to find one by 3273).
The only "bus" to speak of is Game 3309 where she voted Scrub, but that was more of a one wolf or the other situation, so I can't file it as a bus. In all other cases, Froggy never voted against a wolf in a round in which they were shot. I didn't check every round of every game for potential pseudo busses though, and it's certainly possible I simply missed something.
Therefore, Spid's investigation largely clears Froggy
Sky is safe, as I will switch my vote at some point, I'll give Deb the morning to shock and awe me with a post, but for now she will likely get my vote
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The only "bus" to speak of is Game 3309 where she voted Scrub, but that was more of a one wolf or the other situation, so I can't file it as a bus. In all other cases, Froggy never voted against a wolf in a round in which they were shot. I didn't check every round of every game for potential pseudo busses though, and it's certainly possible I simply missed something.
Therefore, Spid's investigation largely clears Froggy
Sky is safe, as I will switch my vote at some point, I'll give Deb the morning to shock and awe me with a post, but for now she will likely get my vote
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
At work so I don't have much time
I don't know what to say about myself I am kinda tired of always being "suspicious "
Take it however you will as you will and it is a good thing this is not must lynch round
I think one of the 3 is a wolf so will go there and to save myself
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I don't know what to say about myself I am kinda tired of always being "suspicious "
Take it however you will as you will and it is a good thing this is not must lynch round
I think one of the 3 is a wolf so will go there and to save myself
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Well that choice just accelerates my vote change.
You got shot in Round 5 last game, and your alive in Round 4 this game, maybe this woe is me stuff is a little melodramatic? Even next round wouldn't be must lynch btw
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for Skybet
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for Skybet
Skybet voted for Rove_Tarts
The_Spider voted for debc1
Rove, what are your thoughts on Celt, he has a sort of omnipresent feeling without having ever been convincingly human?
I could change of Deb because her aggravation is starting to sound more genuine. FTR, I did a quick scope of what I believe are your last 10 results
Shot 5 (human)
Shot 1 (human) - though for inactivity so totally valid
Shot 6 (wolf)
Shot 3 (wolf)
eaten 3
Shot 4 (human)
Survived (human)
Shot 5 (wolf)
Eaten 2
Shot 2 (human)
Mainly on par with a lot of people, getting shot as a wolf is hardly anything to tout as unfair or oppressive. (ftr I didn't check, some of those might have even been seer divinations )
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
You got shot in Round 5 last game, and your alive in Round 4 this game, maybe this woe is me stuff is a little melodramatic? Even next round wouldn't be must lynch btw
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for Skybet
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for Skybet
Skybet voted for Rove_Tarts
The_Spider voted for debc1
Rove, what are your thoughts on Celt, he has a sort of omnipresent feeling without having ever been convincingly human?
I could change of Deb because her aggravation is starting to sound more genuine. FTR, I did a quick scope of what I believe are your last 10 results
Shot 5 (human)
Shot 1 (human) - though for inactivity so totally valid
Shot 6 (wolf)
Shot 3 (wolf)
eaten 3
Shot 4 (human)
Survived (human)
Shot 5 (wolf)
Eaten 2
Shot 2 (human)
Mainly on par with a lot of people, getting shot as a wolf is hardly anything to tout as unfair or oppressive. (ftr I didn't check, some of those might have even been seer divinations )
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I'm going to remain passive on this issue and vote celtic
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lol I guess that answers my question
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I posted it while you were editing, what a coincidence
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Short and sweet but I am sticking with Rove.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Post from Rove_Tarts deleted on 2020-02-06 11:55:34.
Alright then, Rove.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
What is wolfy about it?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Sorry, Sky
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There's a move or perhaps better phrased a gambit I'm angling to make but waiting for the right moment to do so.
Staying put for now
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Staying put for now
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Skybet wrote:
Am I self-absorbed or this
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Lots of strange things here. Why eat who? That makes me think Rove to be honest. The whole seer seems Wolfy thing - we discuss who last round and he eats her
Am I self-absorbed or this
Fake The Disco!
My thoughts on the Hooves eating
a) It's just a novice eating, Hooves cast a vote on Stew toward the end, what is a seer hunt anyway? To me would point to Colange, maybe Oceans?
b) continuation of the girl eating pattern. Seems highly pointless at this stage of the game with a seer around, I could see Rove continuing this motif, but again, it's a real strategic blunder, unless...
c) Fun is a wolf, the wolf thought Hooves had a good chance of being seer (due to her fun vote) or a good enough chance of being seer, that it was worth it to continue the girl killing theme.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
a) It's just a novice eating, Hooves cast a vote on Stew toward the end, what is a seer hunt anyway? To me would point to Colange, maybe Oceans?
b) continuation of the girl eating pattern. Seems highly pointless at this stage of the game with a seer around, I could see Rove continuing this motif, but again, it's a real strategic blunder, unless...
c) Fun is a wolf, the wolf thought Hooves had a good chance of being seer (due to her fun vote) or a good enough chance of being seer, that it was worth it to continue the girl killing theme.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I forgive you, Rove.
Nevertheless, your cantankerous reaction seemed pretty genuine. Can't deny that. I'm switching to Deb.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Nevertheless, your cantankerous reaction seemed pretty genuine. Can't deny that. I'm switching to Deb.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I hear your post, Spid. But for me the Rove/Deb situation must play out this round. We have 2 free hits now before must lynch so I think this is important going forward.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Well, here I go again - first post deleted itself so I'm doing it again.
Spider - I feel he is human but he has fooled me before. Still think he is human.
Deb - Leaning wolf because she is just not playing in her usual manner. She is frustrated (and voicing it) about the way the wolves seem be targeting the females. I'm not thrilled with that fact either, but it is just the way these wolves are playing. Although, it was brought up earlier that Deb's frustration could be her way of telling a fellow male wolf to knock it off. Still, leaning wolf.
Rove - Well, Rove is Rove nothing more to say on that. I always find him somewhat irritating with his many posts a lot of which are spammy. I'm 50/50 on Rove.
Sky - Again not sure so 50/50
Celtic - I'm always suspicious of him and have trouble getting off the fence.
Colange - Is very insistent on voting for me with no real reason and just can't seem to believe that not all players would bus a team mate. Leaning a bit more to wolf.
Oceans - He has now played several games and still seems to be lacking in knowledge about terms used in the game and asks what they mean. Wondering if it is somewhat of an act at this point to appear human. Wolf flying under radar?
Fun - On the fence due to not having played enough games to know his game play technique. However, I do find his comment regarding how Colange is active to be a stretch.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Spider - I feel he is human but he has fooled me before. Still think he is human.
Deb - Leaning wolf because she is just not playing in her usual manner. She is frustrated (and voicing it) about the way the wolves seem be targeting the females. I'm not thrilled with that fact either, but it is just the way these wolves are playing. Although, it was brought up earlier that Deb's frustration could be her way of telling a fellow male wolf to knock it off. Still, leaning wolf.
Rove - Well, Rove is Rove nothing more to say on that. I always find him somewhat irritating with his many posts a lot of which are spammy. I'm 50/50 on Rove.
Sky - Again not sure so 50/50
Celtic - I'm always suspicious of him and have trouble getting off the fence.
Colange - Is very insistent on voting for me with no real reason and just can't seem to believe that not all players would bus a team mate. Leaning a bit more to wolf.
Oceans - He has now played several games and still seems to be lacking in knowledge about terms used in the game and asks what they mean. Wondering if it is somewhat of an act at this point to appear human. Wolf flying under radar?
Fun - On the fence due to not having played enough games to know his game play technique. However, I do find his comment regarding how Colange is active to be a stretch.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Note to all players. Fun meant to put the word "not" as the first word of his colange assessment. That's why it's seems surprising.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I need to vote. After going through some of the posts again, I'm wondering if deb would be so vocal and jeopardize her human (if human) position. She usually keeps her cool but still manages to get her point across. Totally off for her normal game play. She already has three votes and mine would be four. There are no other majorities and we do have two remaining wolves.
I also note that in round three (when Stewie was shot), that Stewie voted for Sky which did not put Sky in a majority. I cannot see Stewie voting for a fellow wolf - especially if it did him absolutely no good. Makes me think that Sky is human.
At this point, I'm going to vote with my gut. Voting Oceans.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
I also note that in round three (when Stewie was shot), that Stewie voted for Sky which did not put Sky in a majority. I cannot see Stewie voting for a fellow wolf - especially if it did him absolutely no good. Makes me think that Sky is human.
At this point, I'm going to vote with my gut. Voting Oceans.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Day
It takes 5 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for Skybet
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for celtichero
Skybet voted for debc1
The_Spider voted for debc1
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
Willing to work with someone
Dan must you?
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It takes 5 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for Skybet
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for celtichero
Skybet voted for debc1
The_Spider voted for debc1
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
Willing to work with someone
Dan must you?
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Well post something interesting, instead of just venting every post
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Froggy ordinarily I would join you however I must stand by my original stance. Will be here for the conclusion and I may join you depending on external factors.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
The_Spider wrote:
Are you talking to me
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Well post something interesting, instead of just venting every post
Are you talking to me
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Where's Celt? He needs to put his two cents in before round end.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Skybet wrote:
I'm not feeling the confidence I should right now.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Where's Celt? He needs to put his two cents in before round end.
To be fair he did post only 2.5 hours ago.I'm not feeling the confidence I should right now.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Deb I have your back normally. But you have been very defensive as late. Screaming wolf to me. I still have my suspicions for frog but I am switching for now
Colange wrote:
Am I going to need to bring up the more defensive as human list again?
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But you have been very defensive as late.
Am I going to need to bring up the more defensive as human list again?
Fake The Disco!
Colange wrote:
Aaaaaaaaand my modicum of faith has disappeared.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Deb I have your back normally. But you have been very defensive as late. Screaming wolf to me. I still have my suspicions for frog but I am switching for now
Aaaaaaaaand my modicum of faith has disappeared.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Why is rove cantankerous and I am melodramatic?
How does sky know that oceans meant to have put not?
What kind of gambit is Celt trying to pull?
Why are you always out to get me?
Froggy I think this my new normal
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How does sky know that oceans meant to have put not?
What kind of gambit is Celt trying to pull?
Why are you always out to get me?
Froggy I think this my new normal
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debc1 wrote:
I lost it and insulted Sky
...to be continued
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Why is rove cantankerous and I am melodramatic?
I lost it and insulted Sky
How does sky know that oceans meant to have put not?
What kind of gambit is Celt trying to pull?
Why are you always out to get me?
What kind of gambit is Celt trying to pull?
Why are you always out to get me?
...to be continued
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I had the same observation, sounds like a narrator on a TV cliffhanger
I'm not sure what options I have for a switch, Colange? Maybe, but probably not? Rove, maaaaybe, but probably not? Celt is a potential option, I have no faith in his "gambit" but we'll see
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I'm not sure what options I have for a switch, Colange? Maybe, but probably not? Rove, maaaaybe, but probably not? Celt is a potential option, I have no faith in his "gambit" but we'll see
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
See this is why I was frustrated last game I couldn't get anyone to think outside their box and make the hard decision
I knew one or two wolves shot cool but a few were obsessed with me(alright who can blame them) but I was right
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I knew one or two wolves shot cool but a few were obsessed with me(alright who can blame them) but I was right
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debc1 wrote:
Can you rank everyone from most to least suspicious
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See this is why I was frustrated last game I couldn't get anyone to think outside their box and make the hard decision
I knew one or two wolves shot cool but a few were obsessed with me(alright who can blame them) but I was right
I knew one or two wolves shot cool but a few were obsessed with me(alright who can blame them) but I was right
Can you rank everyone from most to least suspicious
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Ok
Celt very because he says something then dan or sky will say something then he will change his mind also the gambit thing
Col never really thought him but sky tends to pull him in certain directions see last game with his comment about star
Frog I really haven't suspected her all game
Oceans. Could be don't know
Dan always an my back but didn't think he is wolfy
Sky I so wouldn't put anything past him
Rove haven't really suspected him
Fun hard to tell don't know if I ever played with him as a wolf
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Celt very because he says something then dan or sky will say something then he will change his mind also the gambit thing
Col never really thought him but sky tends to pull him in certain directions see last game with his comment about star
Frog I really haven't suspected her all game
Oceans. Could be don't know
Dan always an my back but didn't think he is wolfy
Sky I so wouldn't put anything past him
Rove haven't really suspected him
Fun hard to tell don't know if I ever played with him as a wolf
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I will be leaving the office soon, will post a brief final outlook when I get home.
Deb you know you had the opportunity to decisively vote Colange last game, but you hesitated your chance away
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Deb you know you had the opportunity to decisively vote Colange last game, but you hesitated your chance away
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
You've got just gotta trust me big man.
Call me Sky because I am the seer.
Deb and Rove are the wolves.
Let's finish off Deb now.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Call me Sky because I am the seer.
Deb and Rove are the wolves.
Let's finish off Deb now.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Can the real seer not claim?
And for future reference: Boop
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And for future reference: Boop
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celtichero wrote:
So if I'm a wolf, kill me first
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You've got just gotta trust me big man.
Call me Sky because I am the seer.
Deb and Rove are the wolves.
Let's finish off Deb now.
Call me Sky because I am the seer.
Deb and Rove are the wolves.
Let's finish off Deb now.
So if I'm a wolf, kill me first
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What why drag us through this Celt? :/
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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Pointless "gambit" Celt, I hope this is just the setup
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
It's integral that Sky and Spider know what I'm doing. I think Rove kinda knows.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Know what?
And should I just end the round?
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And should I just end the round?
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Thanks Sky, glad you understand.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
I get it and Deb has my vote.
See you on the "flip" side.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
See you on the "flip" side.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Skybet wrote:
Is that a scaretheater reference?
Fake The Disco!
I get it and Deb has my vote.
See you on the "flip" side.
See you on the "flip" side.
Is that a scaretheater reference?
Fake The Disco!
Call me a negative molecule because I'm con fused
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All I hope is that the right people saw this.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Should I end the round or not?
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Rove the round needs to end now for this to work as designed.
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"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
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