The Werewolf Game
Game #1771: 2 day ww game.
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This game finished in 8 rounds.
Well, we were wrong about savannahlz9. May she rest in peace!
I therefore return to my original suspicion - the wet willy is the last wolf.
Thus I cast my vote, for the last time.
I therefore return to my original suspicion - the wet willy is the last wolf.
Thus I cast my vote, for the last time.
Since nobody is logging on, and I'm bored, I'm going to amuse myself by speculating on who were the 2 wolves shot so far.
So here is everybody who's been shot:
Mianabelle
fedsat
gap6297
SunFire47
TheBrainBender
savannahlz9
I'm going to ignore people who've been eaten, who are obviously innocent.
Thus if Mianabelle was a wolf, that would eliminate fedsat and savannahlz9 from suspicion.
If fedsat was a wolf, that would eliminate me, savannahlz9 and wettwilly10 from suspicion.
If gap6297 was a wolf, that would eliminate me, savannahlz9, and TheBrainBender from suspicion.
If SunFire47 was a wolf, that would eliminate me, alicat120, savannahlz9 (sort of) and wettwilly10 from suspicion.
If TheBrainBender was a wolf, that would eliminate alicat120, me, savannahlz9 and wettwilly10 from suspicion.
If Savannahlz9 was a wolf, that would eliminate alicat120 and me from suspicion.
Hmm... Savannahlz9 is eliminated under all scenarios - can't be a wolf.
So scenarios...
Mianabelle and fedsat... nope, can't work (fedsat voted for Mianabelle)
Mianabelle and gap6297... eliminates fedsat, me, TheBrainBender...
Mianabelle and SunFire47... eliminates fedsat, me, alicat120...
Mianabelle and TheBrainBender... eliminates fedsat, alicat120, me and wettwilly10...
fedsat and gap6297... eliminates me, wettwilly10 and TheBrainBender...
fedsat and SunFire47... eliminates me, wettwilly10, alicat120...
fedsat and TheBrainBender... eliminates me, wettwilly10, alicat120...
gap6297 and SunFire47... eliminates me, TheBrainBender, alicat120 and wettwilly10...
gap6297 and TheBrainBender... nope, can't work (TheBrainBender voted for gap6297)
SunFire47 and TheBrainBender... eliminates me, alicat120 and wettwilly10...
Now any scenario that eliminates me, alicat120 and wettwilly10 can't work, because one of us MUST be a wolf...
Mianabelle and gap6297... possible... means wettwilly10 OR alicat120 could be the last wolf...
Mianabelle and SunFire47... possible... means only wettwilly10 could be the last wolf...
fedsat and gap6297... possible... means only alicat120 could be the last wolf...
Hmm... well if nothing else, I've proved that *I* can't be the last wolf at least...
I'm almost positive that sunfire was a wolf...
because the night timed out every round until sunfire was eliminated and then the rounds have ended early since
and a wolf could have voted for another wolf to avoid suspicion.
I have no clue who the other wolf is because if we are wrong this time, we all are dead except for the last wolf.
and this round started around 11est, so the long in times means nothing against this round.
Hopefully we can find the wolf...
(not voting yet)
because the night timed out every round until sunfire was eliminated and then the rounds have ended early since
and a wolf could have voted for another wolf to avoid suspicion.
I have no clue who the other wolf is because if we are wrong this time, we all are dead except for the last wolf.
and this round started around 11est, so the long in times means nothing against this round.
Hopefully we can find the wolf...
(not voting yet)
How couldn't savannahlz be a wolf? I think its possible. And it looks like, in that list, you've assumed that you aren't a wolf. I know I'm not a wolf, and due to your vote for me, I have to assume Alicat is a human for any chance to win. So, as far as I can see, you're a wolf.
Alicat, just think it through. Your vote carries a lot of weight. As far as I can see it though, you're either a human, and cheshiress is a wolf, and you shooting him will give us the win, OR you could be the wolf, in which shooting cheshiress would still give you the win. All I can say is that as far as I can see, you have no reason not to shoot cheshiress. Now, from your point of view, that's different. I get that. Take your time.
Alright. I'll leave it at that for now.
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To be nobody but myself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else-- means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting. E.E. Cummings
Alicat, just think it through. Your vote carries a lot of weight. As far as I can see it though, you're either a human, and cheshiress is a wolf, and you shooting him will give us the win, OR you could be the wolf, in which shooting cheshiress would still give you the win. All I can say is that as far as I can see, you have no reason not to shoot cheshiress. Now, from your point of view, that's different. I get that. Take your time.
Alright. I'll leave it at that for now.
---This message was edited on 2009-10-14 09:25:25---
To be nobody but myself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else-- means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting. E.E. Cummings
lots of finger pointing
Disco isn't dead, it lives on in me!
Disco isn't dead, it lives on in me!
AndrewWalker wrote:
Of course - that's the nature of the game!
lots of finger pointing
Of course - that's the nature of the game!
alicat120 wrote:
I agree with you there. Seems an almost fantastic coincidence that after shooting SunFire47 suddenly the night rounds whiz by - that's why I think he was the second wolf. Crazy as it seems, since I'm reasonably confident you're NOT a wolf, that would make Mianabelle the first wolf - and a very lucky shot on the first round!
I'm almost positive that sunfire was a wolf...
I agree with you there. Seems an almost fantastic coincidence that after shooting SunFire47 suddenly the night rounds whiz by - that's why I think he was the second wolf. Crazy as it seems, since I'm reasonably confident you're NOT a wolf, that would make Mianabelle the first wolf - and a very lucky shot on the first round!
wettwilly10 wrote:
You're evidence, man! You're evidence! At least (flawed or not) I have given a logical chain of deductions that leads the finger of blame to be pointed at you. Where is your counter argument? Other than just pointing at me and shouting "Wolf! Wolf!"
So, as far as I can see, you're a wolf.
You're evidence, man! You're evidence! At least (flawed or not) I have given a logical chain of deductions that leads the finger of blame to be pointed at you. Where is your counter argument? Other than just pointing at me and shouting "Wolf! Wolf!"
In the very first round, the first suspicion that wettwilly10 made was that sunfire was very inactive looking...
This could either clear him because if he was a wolf he wouldn't want to get rid of another wolf, at that point sunfire could have come back.
However, maybe as a wolf he wanted to get rid of an inactive wolf, which wouldn't make sense from the first round to think that there is no hope for an inactive wolf to come back.
So right now I'm leaning towards cheshiress being a wolf
Cheshiress didn't say anything the first round.
In round two cheshiress suspected three players of being wolves who probably weren't wolves,
But then cheshiress said that sunfire was acting like the seer or wolf, and given that sunfire was a wolf why would cheshiress if a wolf say that another wolf might be a wolf?
wettwilly voted fedsat that round
cheshiress suspected sunfire again in round three, but then said that he suspected them the least
(I've just been looking through some previous rounds)
So unless cheshiress was really trying to get rid of sunfire because they were causing being a wolf annoying, I can't help but think the wolf is wetwilly
but wetwilly suspected sunfire in the very first round, when an inactive wolf wouldn't have been a huge deal
So I'm currently thinking cheshiress
however if sunfire isn't a wolf all of my ideas are way off
This could either clear him because if he was a wolf he wouldn't want to get rid of another wolf, at that point sunfire could have come back.
However, maybe as a wolf he wanted to get rid of an inactive wolf, which wouldn't make sense from the first round to think that there is no hope for an inactive wolf to come back.
So right now I'm leaning towards cheshiress being a wolf
Cheshiress didn't say anything the first round.
In round two cheshiress suspected three players of being wolves who probably weren't wolves,
But then cheshiress said that sunfire was acting like the seer or wolf, and given that sunfire was a wolf why would cheshiress if a wolf say that another wolf might be a wolf?
wettwilly voted fedsat that round
cheshiress suspected sunfire again in round three, but then said that he suspected them the least
(I've just been looking through some previous rounds)
So unless cheshiress was really trying to get rid of sunfire because they were causing being a wolf annoying, I can't help but think the wolf is wetwilly
but wetwilly suspected sunfire in the very first round, when an inactive wolf wouldn't have been a huge deal
So I'm currently thinking cheshiress
however if sunfire isn't a wolf all of my ideas are way off
Wow, you got to a post before I did. Well, heres what I was going to post before you posted ali.
I said my counter agruement before, and I see no evidence of your own cheshiress. But ok... Even though it really doesn't matter what we say, because I believe one of us is lieing anyway.
I think sunfire was a wolf, Alicat thinks sunfire is a wolf, and oddly enough, even Cheshiress *Coughwolfcough* thinks sunfire was a wolf. We have evidence supporting that fact. We also know that Savannahlz tried to protect Sunfire (Our supposed wolf) by voting instead for Pn_16 (Who we know is human). Cheshiress defended Savannahlz, even directly after her suspicious behavior. I quote Cheshiress from round 5:
There we're other posts too, but in the end, you lead the charge on TheBrainBender.
So, Cheshiress -defended-> Savannah -defended-> Sunfire=Wolf
EDIT: Added the quote Box.
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To be nobody but myself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else-- means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting. E.E. Cummings
I said my counter agruement before, and I see no evidence of your own cheshiress. But ok... Even though it really doesn't matter what we say, because I believe one of us is lieing anyway.
I think sunfire was a wolf, Alicat thinks sunfire is a wolf, and oddly enough, even Cheshiress *Coughwolfcough* thinks sunfire was a wolf. We have evidence supporting that fact. We also know that Savannahlz tried to protect Sunfire (Our supposed wolf) by voting instead for Pn_16 (Who we know is human). Cheshiress defended Savannahlz, even directly after her suspicious behavior. I quote Cheshiress from round 5:
I think because doing so would give no clue at all to the identity of the wolf. That is cunning. A bit more cunning than I think I'm willing to give savannahlz9 credit for at this point - but sue me if I'm wrong.
There we're other posts too, but in the end, you lead the charge on TheBrainBender.
So, Cheshiress -defended-> Savannah -defended-> Sunfire=Wolf
EDIT: Added the quote Box.
---This message was edited on 2009-10-14 17:18:10---
To be nobody but myself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else-- means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting. E.E. Cummings
Well I am glad the game has all of these long posts, so keep it up I am really enjoying this game!
Disco isn't dead, it lives on in me!
Disco isn't dead, it lives on in me!
Well I still feel like cheshiress is the wolf
Hopefully cheshiress will defend themselves, but I'll be back on in the morning (in about 9.5 hours) and unless cheshiress has given some sort of plausable reason that they cannot be the wolf I'm voting.
Hopefully cheshiress will defend themselves, but I'll be back on in the morning (in about 9.5 hours) and unless cheshiress has given some sort of plausable reason that they cannot be the wolf I'm voting.
Savannahlz9 has asked me to post the following message on her behalf:
"My after words are: things aren't always what they seem, One of you could be right or you could both be on the wrong track "
I have no idea what that is supposed to mean! On the surface it would appear a suggestion that "both" wettwilly10 and I are wrong in suspecting each other, and that indeed alicat120 is the wolf. The only problem with that is that alicat120 could have ended (and won) the game at any time in this round simply by voting for me or wettwilly10 - doesn't matter which of us gets shot if we are both human!
So it's a mystery to me what she's on about. Maybe it means something more to one of you two.
"My after words are: things aren't always what they seem, One of you could be right or you could both be on the wrong track "
I have no idea what that is supposed to mean! On the surface it would appear a suggestion that "both" wettwilly10 and I are wrong in suspecting each other, and that indeed alicat120 is the wolf. The only problem with that is that alicat120 could have ended (and won) the game at any time in this round simply by voting for me or wettwilly10 - doesn't matter which of us gets shot if we are both human!
So it's a mystery to me what she's on about. Maybe it means something more to one of you two.
alicat120 wrote:
Whatever wettwilly10 SAID about SunFire47, he didn't vote to shoot her though. In the round where SunFire47 WAS shot, the first post wettwilly10 made was an attempt to cast doubt on the whole "the wolves are inactive" theory and divert suspicion FROM SunFire47 as a result. His second post too was against the idea of shooting the remaining inactives. But then suddenly he changed his mind - was it because enough votes against SunFire47 had been registered at that point as to make it inevitable she would be shot? And he saw the opportunity to divert suspicion from himself, and get rid of an annoying inactive wolf?
alicat120 wrote:
So if I understand correctly wettwilly10's theory on why I am the wolf, it is based on my defending savannahlz9 from accusations that SHE was a wolf (in which case my posting the message above from savannahlz9 obviously isn't going to do my cause any good!) and indeed I still maintain she was NOT a wolf, based on the evidence before me at this point in time.
But leaving that aside, it overlooks the point that it was *I* who cast the deciding vote that got savannahlz9 shot in round 6! If we were both wolves in cahoots, I would have instead mounted further arguments as to why she could NOT be a wolf, and I would have voted for shooting wettwilly10 at that point (since if I was a wolf and he was human, I would know that) and tried to argue around either alicat120 or pn_16 to change their vote to wettwilly10 as well.
So that blows up the one piece of evidence that wettwilly10 has put forward for me being the last wolf.
In the very first round, the first suspicion that wettwilly10 made was that sunfire was very inactive looking...
This could either clear him because if he was a wolf he wouldn't want to get rid of another wolf, at that point sunfire could have come back.
However, maybe as a wolf he wanted to get rid of an inactive wolf, which wouldn't make sense from the first round to think that there is no hope for an inactive wolf to come back.
This could either clear him because if he was a wolf he wouldn't want to get rid of another wolf, at that point sunfire could have come back.
However, maybe as a wolf he wanted to get rid of an inactive wolf, which wouldn't make sense from the first round to think that there is no hope for an inactive wolf to come back.
Whatever wettwilly10 SAID about SunFire47, he didn't vote to shoot her though. In the round where SunFire47 WAS shot, the first post wettwilly10 made was an attempt to cast doubt on the whole "the wolves are inactive" theory and divert suspicion FROM SunFire47 as a result. His second post too was against the idea of shooting the remaining inactives. But then suddenly he changed his mind - was it because enough votes against SunFire47 had been registered at that point as to make it inevitable she would be shot? And he saw the opportunity to divert suspicion from himself, and get rid of an annoying inactive wolf?
alicat120 wrote:
Well I still feel like cheshiress is the wolf
Hopefully cheshiress will defend themselves, but I'll be back on in the morning (in about 9.5 hours) and unless cheshiress has given some sort of plausable reason that they cannot be the wolf I'm voting.
Hopefully cheshiress will defend themselves, but I'll be back on in the morning (in about 9.5 hours) and unless cheshiress has given some sort of plausable reason that they cannot be the wolf I'm voting.
So if I understand correctly wettwilly10's theory on why I am the wolf, it is based on my defending savannahlz9 from accusations that SHE was a wolf (in which case my posting the message above from savannahlz9 obviously isn't going to do my cause any good!) and indeed I still maintain she was NOT a wolf, based on the evidence before me at this point in time.
But leaving that aside, it overlooks the point that it was *I* who cast the deciding vote that got savannahlz9 shot in round 6! If we were both wolves in cahoots, I would have instead mounted further arguments as to why she could NOT be a wolf, and I would have voted for shooting wettwilly10 at that point (since if I was a wolf and he was human, I would know that) and tried to argue around either alicat120 or pn_16 to change their vote to wettwilly10 as well.
So that blows up the one piece of evidence that wettwilly10 has put forward for me being the last wolf.
I got the same thing from savannahlz
which makes it sound like I am the wolf...
or maybe that sunfire wasn't a wolf?
I don't know, that message scared me.
I'm really worried that I'm going to vote for a person instead of a wolf.
I think that savannah must have been a wolf, I didn't think she was, but after the message from her she must have been, or the seer.
But I'm voting for cheshiress
I'm really sorry if I'm wrong
but it's been a great game!
which makes it sound like I am the wolf...
or maybe that sunfire wasn't a wolf?
I don't know, that message scared me.
I'm really worried that I'm going to vote for a person instead of a wolf.
I think that savannah must have been a wolf, I didn't think she was, but after the message from her she must have been, or the seer.
But I'm voting for cheshiress
I'm really sorry if I'm wrong
but it's been a great game!
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