The Werewolf Game
Game #2230: The Right to Vote
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Round 4 Challenge
"I think I know who the other wolves are," said chunnie. "I'll tell you in the morning." But for chunnie, morning would never come again. The nine remaining players began to eye each other suspiciously...
I call this challenge Celebrity Eye-dentification.
Habmshcx sgb dbkbyqhsx vgnrb bxbr eqb ohdstqba.
Chma e pthz sges lbmshnmr sghr dbkbyqhsx ema ger e mtlybq hm hsr shskb.
Trb sges mtlybq sn chma emnsgbq pthz.
Chma sgb ptbrshnm sges lnrs obnokb fns qhfgs nm sgb rbdnma pthz.
Habmshcx sgb nsgbq dbkbyqhshbr hm sges ptbrshnm sn beqm sgb qhfgs sn unsb.
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"I think I know who the other wolves are," said chunnie. "I'll tell you in the morning." But for chunnie, morning would never come again. The nine remaining players began to eye each other suspiciously...
I call this challenge Celebrity Eye-dentification.
Habmshcx sgb dbkbyqhsx vgnrb bxbr eqb ohdstqba.
Chma e pthz sges lbmshnmr sghr dbkbyqhsx ema ger e mtlybq hm hsr shskb.
Trb sges mtlybq sn chma emnsgbq pthz.
Chma sgb ptbrshnm sges lnrs obnokb fns qhfgs nm sgb rbdnma pthz.
Habmshcx sgb nsgbq dbkbyqhshbr hm sges ptbrshnm sn beqm sgb qhfgs sn unsb.
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I'm sure everyone will solve the cryptogram easily enough, so her is the answer to it:
Identify the celebrity whose eyes are pictured. Find a quiz that mentions this celebrity and has a number in its title. Use that number to find another quiz. Find the question that most people got right on the second quiz. Identify the other celebrities in that question to earn the right to vote.
Now off to try and solve it.
Edit to add: Since Kruger is a wolf we now know freak is human.
So based on Giz's info from last round that 5 humans and 1 wolf solved the clue:
5 voters were: chunnie, cinnamon, freakshow, Hadleigh and Psychic_Master
Non-voters are: Kruger(wolf), GA, krishnan, ppjones, Psycho and TanCW.
Krish says he solved it, so if we add him in the voters list, here's what I got, (assuming Kruger didn't solve the clue):
1 wolf amongst: chunnie(human), freak(human), cinnamon, Hadleigh, Psychic_Master & krishnan.
1 wolf amongst: GA, ppjones, Psycho, & TanCW
Does anyone see a flaw in this reasoning because I may have missed something.
Where is everyone?
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Identify the celebrity whose eyes are pictured. Find a quiz that mentions this celebrity and has a number in its title. Use that number to find another quiz. Find the question that most people got right on the second quiz. Identify the other celebrities in that question to earn the right to vote.
Now off to try and solve it.
Edit to add: Since Kruger is a wolf we now know freak is human.
So based on Giz's info from last round that 5 humans and 1 wolf solved the clue:
5 voters were: chunnie, cinnamon, freakshow, Hadleigh and Psychic_Master
Non-voters are: Kruger(wolf), GA, krishnan, ppjones, Psycho and TanCW.
Krish says he solved it, so if we add him in the voters list, here's what I got, (assuming Kruger didn't solve the clue):
1 wolf amongst: chunnie(human), freak(human), cinnamon, Hadleigh, Psychic_Master & krishnan.
1 wolf amongst: GA, ppjones, Psycho, & TanCW
Does anyone see a flaw in this reasoning because I may have missed something.
Where is everyone?
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
i have been looking for like an hour, and i have no idea who's eyes those are.
edit: think i got it
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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
edit: think i got it
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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
Well, I voted KRUGERGIRL14 in that three way tie... I know that doesn't clear me, but I'm just noting that down.
I find it interesting that of the four people who didn't earnt he right to vote in Round 2, 3 of them are still alive, but 3 claim to be in those two. freakshow07, PsychoMikey and ppjones all claim to have not solved the clue. Only two of them could have not solved the clue, meaning on is lying and is actually a wolf who solved the clue... I'll be back in a sec. Oh, and if this is right, then myself and TanCW would be cleared. Are we sure 4demo didn't solve it? Gizzer said, "2 remain in quarantine" so I think she was suggesting 4demo was in quarantine, but died, and therefore only two people were left. So I think one of PsychoMikey and ppjones is lying.
Also, two of the non-clears who earned the right to vote last round should NOT earn the right to vote this round. The other two should earn the right to vote. That way we get a clear idea who the wolf in that group is.
EDIT: To do with the Round 4 Challenge, are we all on our own to identitify the first eyes? Like, we just have to know who that person is in order to solve that first part of the challenge?
EDIT: Oh, and I went through the celebrities quiz and clicked "just eyes" and went through photos, but didn't come across those eyes. maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough.
EDIT: freakshow07 - did you solve the Round Two Challenge? I've been asking you all game and you've never answered me!
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I find it interesting that of the four people who didn't earnt he right to vote in Round 2, 3 of them are still alive, but 3 claim to be in those two. freakshow07, PsychoMikey and ppjones all claim to have not solved the clue. Only two of them could have not solved the clue, meaning on is lying and is actually a wolf who solved the clue... I'll be back in a sec. Oh, and if this is right, then myself and TanCW would be cleared. Are we sure 4demo didn't solve it? Gizzer said, "2 remain in quarantine" so I think she was suggesting 4demo was in quarantine, but died, and therefore only two people were left. So I think one of PsychoMikey and ppjones is lying.
Also, two of the non-clears who earned the right to vote last round should NOT earn the right to vote this round. The other two should earn the right to vote. That way we get a clear idea who the wolf in that group is.
EDIT: To do with the Round 4 Challenge, are we all on our own to identitify the first eyes? Like, we just have to know who that person is in order to solve that first part of the challenge?
EDIT: Oh, and I went through the celebrities quiz and clicked "just eyes" and went through photos, but didn't come across those eyes. maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough.
EDIT: freakshow07 - did you solve the Round Two Challenge? I've been asking you all game and you've never answered me!
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GA, I'm not too sure of Psyhco yet. In round 2 after I posted the idea of using Rank, he listed 3 possible answers, although at that point he did not have it solved. A few posts later he said he was off to bed. There is a possiblity that he did solve the challenge as he had already listed 3 of the possible answers.
As for the challenge this round, GA I would assume we should be able to guess who the celebrity in the photo above is. Once we know that we can then search quizzes with their name in it.
Freak, did you solve it? I have had so many guesses at the picture. I even had my co-workers look at it, with many guesses from them. One suggested Vladimir Putin and I found a pic that sure looks like him with the eyes above, but I couldn't get anywhere with the quizzes.
Edit to add: We can't put any weight behind someone saying now that they solved past challenges. Anyone who hasn't solved it can lie to say they did and then we can't narrow down the list.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
As for the challenge this round, GA I would assume we should be able to guess who the celebrity in the photo above is. Once we know that we can then search quizzes with their name in it.
Freak, did you solve it? I have had so many guesses at the picture. I even had my co-workers look at it, with many guesses from them. One suggested Vladimir Putin and I found a pic that sure looks like him with the eyes above, but I couldn't get anywhere with the quizzes.
Edit to add: We can't put any weight behind someone saying now that they solved past challenges. Anyone who hasn't solved it can lie to say they did and then we can't narrow down the list.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
cinnamon, I edited it while you posted! Read my edited post.
The eyes are easy.... It's Prince Charles but I can't seem to find the quiz it relates to and it took about 5 mins to find.
I hope someone help with the next part.
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
I hope someone help with the next part.
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Oh, Mister Prince Charles. I'll see if I can find any quizzes on him.
Okay, I have submitted an answer to Gizzer. Hopefully I'm right.
I don't want all of the people who solved it last round to solve it again. So I suggest some of you just opt out of doing the challenge.
This way we'll find our wolves faster.
freakshow07 - did you or did you not solve the Round 2 Challenge? If you did, then the wolf in my group is out of me or TanCW. If you didn't, then the wolf in my group is out of ppjones and PsychoMikey.
So we need to know!
EDIT: Well, let's decide who's going to solve this challenge out of you four non-clears.
How about Hadleigh and cinnamon30 solve it, and Psychic_Master and krishnan *don't* solve it.
If we find out more people didn't solve it than did out of you four, then we know cinnamon or Hadleigh is a wolf, or if we know more people solved it than didn't, we know that Psychic or krishnan is a wolf, because the wolf must've jumped ship.
So, cinnamon30 and Hadleigh, I can help you two.
Use Advanced Search and search for the person's whose eyes are in the picture in the "Question" section.
Then follow the other steps in order to solve.
Psychic and krishnan, I advise you not to solve the challenge, if you want to help the humans. I think my plan is pretty good in order for the humans to win. But only if everyone goes along with it.
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Okay, I have submitted an answer to Gizzer. Hopefully I'm right.
I don't want all of the people who solved it last round to solve it again. So I suggest some of you just opt out of doing the challenge.
This way we'll find our wolves faster.
freakshow07 - did you or did you not solve the Round 2 Challenge? If you did, then the wolf in my group is out of me or TanCW. If you didn't, then the wolf in my group is out of ppjones and PsychoMikey.
So we need to know!
EDIT: Well, let's decide who's going to solve this challenge out of you four non-clears.
How about Hadleigh and cinnamon30 solve it, and Psychic_Master and krishnan *don't* solve it.
If we find out more people didn't solve it than did out of you four, then we know cinnamon or Hadleigh is a wolf, or if we know more people solved it than didn't, we know that Psychic or krishnan is a wolf, because the wolf must've jumped ship.
So, cinnamon30 and Hadleigh, I can help you two.
Use Advanced Search and search for the person's whose eyes are in the picture in the "Question" section.
Then follow the other steps in order to solve.
Psychic and krishnan, I advise you not to solve the challenge, if you want to help the humans. I think my plan is pretty good in order for the humans to win. But only if everyone goes along with it.
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GreenApples27 wrote:
GA, there are still 4 of the non voters from round 2 still alive. Freak(human), ppjones, Psycho and TanCW.
Thinking out loud here:
We can't be sure 4demo didn't solve round 2 challenge anymore than we can be certain any of the others did or didn't solve it. Kruger said she had 2 solutions and hoped 1 of them was right. She never posted anymore after that. TanCW admits near the end of the round he thinks he has it, but may not be able to vote in time (less than 50 minutes left when he made the post). There was no post from pp who states in round 3 he did not solve it. Psycho posted 3 of the right answers and then later posts he was off to bed (with about 7 hours left in the round). 4demo didn't post in round 2, so it is more likely that she didn't solve it, but not 100% sure of this. Although we do know she was human, as well as jtolley who also didn't post in round 2, but I believe TanCW mentioned he hadn't even been on-line for most of the round, so again likely he didn't solve it.
So that leaves Kruger, freak, ppjones, Psycho and TanCW. We know freak is human, so he had no reason to lie in saying he didn't solve the challenge. We know Kruger was a wolf, so there can only be at most 2 wolves amongst ppjones, Psycho and TanCW.
The only problem is, we don't know how many of those who voted: chunnie(human), cinn, GA, Hadleigh, Krish & Psychic_master couldbe wolves. 2 of the wolves could be amongst them.
Edit to add: GA I have solved the challenge.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I find it interesting that of the four people who didn't earnt he right to vote in Round 2, 3 of them are still alive, but 3 claim to be in those two. freakshow07, PsychoMikey and ppjones all claim to have not solved the clue. Only two of them could have not solved the clue, meaning on is lying and is actually a wolf who solved the clue... I'll be back in a sec. Oh, and if this is right, then myself and TanCW would be cleared. Are we sure 4demo didn't solve it? Gizzer said, "2 remain in quarantine" so I think she was suggesting 4demo was in quarantine, but died, and therefore only two people were left. So I think one of PsychoMikey and ppjones is lying.
GA, there are still 4 of the non voters from round 2 still alive. Freak(human), ppjones, Psycho and TanCW.
Thinking out loud here:
We can't be sure 4demo didn't solve round 2 challenge anymore than we can be certain any of the others did or didn't solve it. Kruger said she had 2 solutions and hoped 1 of them was right. She never posted anymore after that. TanCW admits near the end of the round he thinks he has it, but may not be able to vote in time (less than 50 minutes left when he made the post). There was no post from pp who states in round 3 he did not solve it. Psycho posted 3 of the right answers and then later posts he was off to bed (with about 7 hours left in the round). 4demo didn't post in round 2, so it is more likely that she didn't solve it, but not 100% sure of this. Although we do know she was human, as well as jtolley who also didn't post in round 2, but I believe TanCW mentioned he hadn't even been on-line for most of the round, so again likely he didn't solve it.
So that leaves Kruger, freak, ppjones, Psycho and TanCW. We know freak is human, so he had no reason to lie in saying he didn't solve the challenge. We know Kruger was a wolf, so there can only be at most 2 wolves amongst ppjones, Psycho and TanCW.
The only problem is, we don't know how many of those who voted: chunnie(human), cinn, GA, Hadleigh, Krish & Psychic_master couldbe wolves. 2 of the wolves could be amongst them.
Edit to add: GA I have solved the challenge.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
How do we know freak is human or have I missed something??
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Gizzer said "2 players remain in quarantine" which obviously meant only two players who didn't solve it were still alive.
So no, there's one wolf in each category. And therefore we know one of the wolves is between ppjones and PsychoMikey, and yes I would suspect PsychoMikey more so than ppjones.
EDIT: Hadleigh, one of freakshow and KRUGER was a wolf, and the other was human based on who earned the right to vote.
KRUGER has turned out to be a wolf, so now we know freakshow is a human.
Also, I have earned the right to vote and I am putting in a vote for PsychoMikey.
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So no, there's one wolf in each category. And therefore we know one of the wolves is between ppjones and PsychoMikey, and yes I would suspect PsychoMikey more so than ppjones.
EDIT: Hadleigh, one of freakshow and KRUGER was a wolf, and the other was human based on who earned the right to vote.
KRUGER has turned out to be a wolf, so now we know freakshow is a human.
Also, I have earned the right to vote and I am putting in a vote for PsychoMikey.
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Thanks cinnamon for solving the cipher. I guess it is a keyword cipher with eyed as the keyword.
I am pretty sure I have seen those eyes before, but I am not able to place them. I will be working on the clue later.
As for the wolves and last round's clue, I did solve the clue in time to earn the right to vote, but did not get confirmation. I thought that GA also might have got the answer right, since I figured out the answer only from GA's post near the end, when he said that he found the link. So it looks like GA found the answer but did not submit it to Gizzer.
It looks like we have two lists from Round 3, each containing one wolf. I am only placing those people who are alive in these lists.
People who earned the right to vote: cinnamon, freakshow, Hadleigh, krishnan and Psychic_Master. One wolf here.
People who didn't: GreenApples, ppjones, Psycho_Mikey and TanCW. One wolf here.
I was going to consider freakshow and ppjones cleared, but I just went back to the logic of round 1. Either freakshow or tonjawithaj solved the round 1 clue. Whoever did not solve the round 1 clue is clear. Freakshow claimed that he did not solve it, but this can only be confirmed by tonjawithaj. Unfortunately, only the seer and wolves can send a message from the dead, so we will not know about tonja's vote. Similarly, in round 2, 2 of freakshow, ppjones, PsychoMikey and TanCW solved the clue and are clear. We don't know which two. So, currently I would consider ppjones very very unlikely to be a wolf, and freakshow not fully cleared.
I am pretty sure I have seen those eyes before, but I am not able to place them. I will be working on the clue later.
As for the wolves and last round's clue, I did solve the clue in time to earn the right to vote, but did not get confirmation. I thought that GA also might have got the answer right, since I figured out the answer only from GA's post near the end, when he said that he found the link. So it looks like GA found the answer but did not submit it to Gizzer.
It looks like we have two lists from Round 3, each containing one wolf. I am only placing those people who are alive in these lists.
People who earned the right to vote: cinnamon, freakshow, Hadleigh, krishnan and Psychic_Master. One wolf here.
People who didn't: GreenApples, ppjones, Psycho_Mikey and TanCW. One wolf here.
I was going to consider freakshow and ppjones cleared, but I just went back to the logic of round 1. Either freakshow or tonjawithaj solved the round 1 clue. Whoever did not solve the round 1 clue is clear. Freakshow claimed that he did not solve it, but this can only be confirmed by tonjawithaj. Unfortunately, only the seer and wolves can send a message from the dead, so we will not know about tonja's vote. Similarly, in round 2, 2 of freakshow, ppjones, PsychoMikey and TanCW solved the clue and are clear. We don't know which two. So, currently I would consider ppjones very very unlikely to be a wolf, and freakshow not fully cleared.
I consider freakshow07 completely cleared. I believe tonja solved the clue, and I believe jtolley, freakshow07 and KRUGERGIRL14 didn't.
I think krishnan isn't a wolf, since he voted KRUGERGIRL14 round one. Again, like my vote for KRUGER in round 2, this doesn't clear anyone, but it makes me look at others first.
I think Psychic_Master should abstain from solving the challenge.
I think we should create a majority on PsychoMikey, and the five voting PsychoMikey would be:
GreenApples27
cinnamon30
freakshow07
TanCW
Hadleigh
So krishnan, I don't think you should solve it... Well, that's my opinion at least.
We need to narrow down the possible wolves, and if you solve it then it all goes to nothing.
I think krishnan isn't a wolf, since he voted KRUGERGIRL14 round one. Again, like my vote for KRUGER in round 2, this doesn't clear anyone, but it makes me look at others first.
I think Psychic_Master should abstain from solving the challenge.
I think we should create a majority on PsychoMikey, and the five voting PsychoMikey would be:
GreenApples27
cinnamon30
freakshow07
TanCW
Hadleigh
So krishnan, I don't think you should solve it... Well, that's my opinion at least.
We need to narrow down the possible wolves, and if you solve it then it all goes to nothing.
Krishnan, I just plugged the cypher into an on-line cryptography solver and got the answer.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
cinnamon, are you going to vote? You have earned the right to, and I suggest we make a majority quicker because the wolf in your group will just have more time to sabotage the humans by solving the clue if we don't get a majority fast enough.
Do you agree with a PsychoMikey vote?
Do you agree with a PsychoMikey vote?
I don't have an issue with voting for Psycho as I think there is a good possibility they did solve the challenge in round 2.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I have solved it, once I woke up and read the question properly. It's only 6am here in Western Australia !!!
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Awesome! We have three people who can vote PsychoMikey as of now. We just need two more (freakshow07?).
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I have been going over our reasoning for freak being human and either I am too tired or I am just overlooking it, but its not working out that way anymore.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Alright, GA's logic seems to make sense, so I'll gladly abstain from earning the right to vote this round. Less work for me. I haven't read all the posts this round yet, because I have to go soon, so I'll pop back in later and share my thoughts.
"Dream what you want to dream, go where you want to go, be what you want to be. Because you have only one life and one chance to do all the things you want to do."
"Dream what you want to dream, go where you want to go, be what you want to be. Because you have only one life and one chance to do all the things you want to do."
Sorry for the double post, but I need to see this in writing so I can wrap my brain around it.
Round 1: Giz said 10 humans and 2 wolves solved the challenge.
11 voters: 4demo, cabaret, chunnie, cinn, GA, Hadleigh, Krishnan, ppjones, psychic_master(PM), Psycho, CW
4 non-voters: jtolley, freak, tonja, Kruger
So we can have 2 wolves in the list of voters and 1 in the non voters or we can have 2 wolves in the list of non-voters and 1 wolf in the list of voters.
I said before we can't base anything on what players say after the round ends, on whether they solved it or not. We can only go on what we know from those who vote.
So, we can't clear freak from being a wolf.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Round 1: Giz said 10 humans and 2 wolves solved the challenge.
11 voters: 4demo, cabaret, chunnie, cinn, GA, Hadleigh, Krishnan, ppjones, psychic_master(PM), Psycho, CW
4 non-voters: jtolley, freak, tonja, Kruger
So we can have 2 wolves in the list of voters and 1 in the non voters or we can have 2 wolves in the list of non-voters and 1 wolf in the list of voters.
I said before we can't base anything on what players say after the round ends, on whether they solved it or not. We can only go on what we know from those who vote.
So, we can't clear freak from being a wolf.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I have also solved it, I think, but I have not yet sent the answer to Gizzer. If you all don't want me to solve it, I can abstain.
I agree that freakshow is not completely clear since tonja might not have solved the clue and freak could be lying about not solving it.
I agree that freakshow is not completely clear since tonja might not have solved the clue and freak could be lying about not solving it.
From Round 2: Giz said 6 humans and 3 wolves solved the challenge.
Voters: chunnie, cinn, GA, Hadleigh, Krish and PM
Non-voters: freak, ppjones, Psycho, CW, jtolley, 4demo, Kruger
Of the non-voters, we know jtolley and 4demo were human and Kruger was a wolf. So we have freak, pp, Psycho and CW left, which means only 2 at most can be a wolf and at least 2 of them are human.
Edit to add: Near the end of round 2 CW says he thinks he has it, mind you the answer is practically posted several hours prior to his post. Also note that after the answer is practically posted, freak posts 2 hours later with several hours left in the round. So in my mind there is a high possiblity that both CW and freak got the challenge in round 2. Psycho, posted 3 of the correct answers but then says he was going to bed. I can't confirm whether he was on-line long enough after his last post to submit the answer in time. The lack of posting by pp makes it highly likely that he didn't solve the challenge therefore he is less likely to be a wolf.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Voters: chunnie, cinn, GA, Hadleigh, Krish and PM
Non-voters: freak, ppjones, Psycho, CW, jtolley, 4demo, Kruger
Of the non-voters, we know jtolley and 4demo were human and Kruger was a wolf. So we have freak, pp, Psycho and CW left, which means only 2 at most can be a wolf and at least 2 of them are human.
Edit to add: Near the end of round 2 CW says he thinks he has it, mind you the answer is practically posted several hours prior to his post. Also note that after the answer is practically posted, freak posts 2 hours later with several hours left in the round. So in my mind there is a high possiblity that both CW and freak got the challenge in round 2. Psycho, posted 3 of the correct answers but then says he was going to bed. I can't confirm whether he was on-line long enough after his last post to submit the answer in time. The lack of posting by pp makes it highly likely that he didn't solve the challenge therefore he is less likely to be a wolf.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
krishnan, I would prefer it if you didn't submit an answer, thanks.
And thanks to Vinny for complying too.
And thanks to Vinny for complying too.
From round 3: Giz says 5 humans and 1 wolf solved the challenge.
Voters: chunnie, cinn, freak, Hadleigh, and PM
Non-voters: GA, krish, pp, Psycho, CW, Kruger
Since only 5 players voted, only 1 of them can be a wolf, if any of them.
The non-voter list has at least 2 wolves, possibly 3.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Voters: chunnie, cinn, freak, Hadleigh, and PM
Non-voters: GA, krish, pp, Psycho, CW, Kruger
Since only 5 players voted, only 1 of them can be a wolf, if any of them.
The non-voter list has at least 2 wolves, possibly 3.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Cinn, I've done the same thing and I'm trying to work it out. I'll post what I've got.
Round 1 voting
4demo voted for ppjones
caberet voted for Hadleigh
chunnie voted for jtolley
cinnamon30 voted for krishnan
freakshow07
GreenApples27 voted for caberet
Hadleigh voted for tonjawithaj
jtolley
krishnan voted for KRUGERGIRL14
KRUGERGIRL14
ppjones voted for PsychoMikey
Psychic_Master voted for freakshow07
PsychoMikey voted for Psychic_Master
TanCW voted for cinnamon30
tonjawithaj
Twelve players answered correctly and earned the right to vote: 10 humans and 2 wolves.
Shot - tonjawithaj (Human)
Eaten - caberet (Human)
Only 11 voted so we could have only 1 wolf amongst the voters
Round 2 voting
4demo
chunnie voted for KRUGERGIRL14
cinnamon30 voted for freakshow07
freakshow07
GreenApples27 voted for KRUGERGIRL14
Hadleigh voted for freakshow07
jtolley
krishnan voted for jtolley
KRUGERGIRL14
ppjones
Psychic_Master voted for jtolley
PsychoMikey
TanCW
Nine players answered the challenge correctly: 6 humans and 3 wolves.
Shot - jtolley (seer)
Eaten - 4demo (Human)
Only 6 voted so all wolves could have abstained
Round 3 voting
chunnie voted for KRUGERGIRL14
cinnamon30 voted for KRUGERGIRL14
freakshow07 voted for KRUGERGIRL14
GreenApples27
Hadleigh voted for KRUGERGIRL14
krishnan
KRUGERGIRL14
ppjones
Psychic_Master voted for KRUGERGIRL14
PsychoMikey
TanCW
Six players earned the right to vote: 5 humans and 1 wolf.
Shot - KRUGERGIRL14 (Wolf)
Eaten - chunnie (Human)
Again with only 5 votes we may not have had a wolf voting.
I don't think anyone is really cleared yet. Or is my reasoning flawed
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Round 1 voting
4demo voted for ppjones
caberet voted for Hadleigh
chunnie voted for jtolley
cinnamon30 voted for krishnan
freakshow07
GreenApples27 voted for caberet
Hadleigh voted for tonjawithaj
jtolley
krishnan voted for KRUGERGIRL14
KRUGERGIRL14
ppjones voted for PsychoMikey
Psychic_Master voted for freakshow07
PsychoMikey voted for Psychic_Master
TanCW voted for cinnamon30
tonjawithaj
Twelve players answered correctly and earned the right to vote: 10 humans and 2 wolves.
Shot - tonjawithaj (Human)
Eaten - caberet (Human)
Only 11 voted so we could have only 1 wolf amongst the voters
Round 2 voting
4demo
chunnie voted for KRUGERGIRL14
cinnamon30 voted for freakshow07
freakshow07
GreenApples27 voted for KRUGERGIRL14
Hadleigh voted for freakshow07
jtolley
krishnan voted for jtolley
KRUGERGIRL14
ppjones
Psychic_Master voted for jtolley
PsychoMikey
TanCW
Nine players answered the challenge correctly: 6 humans and 3 wolves.
Shot - jtolley (seer)
Eaten - 4demo (Human)
Only 6 voted so all wolves could have abstained
Round 3 voting
chunnie voted for KRUGERGIRL14
cinnamon30 voted for KRUGERGIRL14
freakshow07 voted for KRUGERGIRL14
GreenApples27
Hadleigh voted for KRUGERGIRL14
krishnan
KRUGERGIRL14
ppjones
Psychic_Master voted for KRUGERGIRL14
PsychoMikey
TanCW
Six players earned the right to vote: 5 humans and 1 wolf.
Shot - KRUGERGIRL14 (Wolf)
Eaten - chunnie (Human)
Again with only 5 votes we may not have had a wolf voting.
I don't think anyone is really cleared yet. Or is my reasoning flawed
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Hadleigh, I agree with you. No one is cleared. Your reasoning is not flawed as I came to the same conclusion as you.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
tonja said she thought she had solved it, and I'm sticking by that. I really don't think freakshow07 is a wolf.
I would go as far to say he's cleared.
In round two, we can say that 4demo, jtolley and freakshow07 didn't answer it. freakshow07 again is possibly cleared.
I don't think it's coincidence that he's nearly cleared in two rounds as a wolf.
ppjones or PsychoMikey, in my opinion, lied about them not solving it.
It's not as complex as you two are making it out to be.
We should shoot PsychoMikey today, and if he isn't a wolf, then ppjones tomorrow.
I will not shoot freakshow07 until I know PsychoMikey and ppjones are both human. But I highly doubt they are both human.
I would go as far to say he's cleared.
In round two, we can say that 4demo, jtolley and freakshow07 didn't answer it. freakshow07 again is possibly cleared.
I don't think it's coincidence that he's nearly cleared in two rounds as a wolf.
ppjones or PsychoMikey, in my opinion, lied about them not solving it.
It's not as complex as you two are making it out to be.
We should shoot PsychoMikey today, and if he isn't a wolf, then ppjones tomorrow.
I will not shoot freakshow07 until I know PsychoMikey and ppjones are both human. But I highly doubt they are both human.
In round 1, 12 people earned the right to vote but only 11 did.
Of the 4 who didn't, Freak, jtolley, Kruger & tonja, we know that JT & Tonja are human and Kruger is a wolf.
The wash up was 10 humans and 2 wolves could vote so 2 humans & 1 wolf couldn't.
To say Freak is cleared is wrong. He could be a wolf that could vote that didn't.
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Of the 4 who didn't, Freak, jtolley, Kruger & tonja, we know that JT & Tonja are human and Kruger is a wolf.
The wash up was 10 humans and 2 wolves could vote so 2 humans & 1 wolf couldn't.
To say Freak is cleared is wrong. He could be a wolf that could vote that didn't.
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
GA, Psycho never said they solved the challenge in round 2. Go back and look at his posts in rounds 2 and 3. The more you try to say freak is cleared the more you look wolfish.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I am beginning to agree with you, Cinn but I will give him the benefit of the doubt at the moment.
I have the right to vote but I am not at all sure that PsychoMickey is the right one to vote for.
They got rid of Chunnie quickly after he said he knew who the other two were. But he voted for the seer in round 1 and Kruger in 2 & 3 so that is no help.
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
I have the right to vote but I am not at all sure that PsychoMickey is the right one to vote for.
They got rid of Chunnie quickly after he said he knew who the other two were. But he voted for the seer in round 1 and Kruger in 2 & 3 so that is no help.
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
GA, tonja said she solved it, but it might be too late for her to vote. I am inclined to believe her since she was human, but I do not know if she bothered submitting the solution to Gizzer or not since it was not going to be on time. The only thing clearing freak in round 1 is his own statement that he didn't solve the round 1 clue. In round 2, freak posted long after the solution was practically posted already, and so far freak has refused to answer your question about whether he got the answer or not. So although freakshow is not near the top of my list of suspects, I would consider him by no means cleared.
I have pretty much cleared krishnan as in this game there would be no need for a wolf to vote for a wolf so soon in the game.
My list of suspects
cinnamon30
freakshow07
GreenApples27
Hadleigh
krishnan
ppjones
Psychic_Master
PsychoMikey
TanCW
Pretty much cleared.
Not cleared but not likely
In my firing line
Edit: I too will vote for PsychoMickey
Edit again: I've just changed the colour of CW as I went back and checked when the day round finished approx. and he would of had a chance to vote, albeit about 30mins, as a wolf before the BT went to the next day. But I do think it is highly unlikely he is a wolf. CW is on the same time zone as me so it's easy for me to check.
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
My list of suspects
cinnamon30
freakshow07
GreenApples27
Hadleigh
krishnan
ppjones
Psychic_Master
PsychoMikey
TanCW
Pretty much cleared.
Not cleared but not likely
In my firing line
Edit: I too will vote for PsychoMickey
Edit again: I've just changed the colour of CW as I went back and checked when the day round finished approx. and he would of had a chance to vote, albeit about 30mins, as a wolf before the BT went to the next day. But I do think it is highly unlikely he is a wolf. CW is on the same time zone as me so it's easy for me to check.
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Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
cinnamon, I am saying from my point of view I consider him very low on my suspects and nearly cleared.
We are all entitled to our own opinions.
If there was still time for tonja in the round, I would say she PM'd Gizzer the answers. So yes, I think freakshow07 is pretty much cleared - as in I won't be voting him any time soon.
If freakshow07 were a wolf, then TanCW or myself would have to be his partner. I don't see TanCW as freakshow's partner, and I know I'm not a wolf, hence why I don't think freakshow07 is, cinnamon. You aren't in my position, so naturally you can't make that assumption. But you can't dismiss my suspicions because you are in a complete different group to me. I'm in a group with 3 players, you're in a group with 4 others. So yes, we are naturally going to suspect different people until things are more clear.
So let's not get in a huff.
We are all entitled to our own opinions.
If there was still time for tonja in the round, I would say she PM'd Gizzer the answers. So yes, I think freakshow07 is pretty much cleared - as in I won't be voting him any time soon.
If freakshow07 were a wolf, then TanCW or myself would have to be his partner. I don't see TanCW as freakshow's partner, and I know I'm not a wolf, hence why I don't think freakshow07 is, cinnamon. You aren't in my position, so naturally you can't make that assumption. But you can't dismiss my suspicions because you are in a complete different group to me. I'm in a group with 3 players, you're in a group with 4 others. So yes, we are naturally going to suspect different people until things are more clear.
So let's not get in a huff.
GreenApples27 wrote:
What groups are you talking about?????
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
But you can't dismiss my suspicions because you are in a complete different group to me. I'm in a group with 3 players, you're in a group with 4 others.
What groups are you talking about?????
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
GA, I am not saying you are not entitled to your own opinion, nor am I in a huff about it as you put it. My point is, there is no way we can 100% clear freak or anyone else at this point. Funny how you seem to think CW is also cleared because I have been a little suspicious of him as well. I can't quite put my finger on it but he has stood out since round 2 to me. However right now Psycho seems the most suspicious to me which is why I voted for him.
From where I sit, pp is the least likely to be a wolf becasue of his inactivity. I am not considering anything anyone has to say about solving challenges, if they haven't placed a vote as the ones voting are the only ones we are sure of that have solved the clues. I agree tonja is most likely to have solved the round 1 challenge as we know she is human and why would a human lie about solving a challenge, especially when Giz is telling us the identities of players.
I also wouldn't put any weight behind who voted for whom. If I were a wolf, I would most definitely consider voting for a fellow wolf early on as a lot of people like to look back at voting history and rule people out based on that. Again even more so since Giz is telling us if we shot a wolf or human.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
From where I sit, pp is the least likely to be a wolf becasue of his inactivity. I am not considering anything anyone has to say about solving challenges, if they haven't placed a vote as the ones voting are the only ones we are sure of that have solved the clues. I agree tonja is most likely to have solved the round 1 challenge as we know she is human and why would a human lie about solving a challenge, especially when Giz is telling us the identities of players.
I also wouldn't put any weight behind who voted for whom. If I were a wolf, I would most definitely consider voting for a fellow wolf early on as a lot of people like to look back at voting history and rule people out based on that. Again even more so since Giz is telling us if we shot a wolf or human.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I know you wont believe me Cinn, but I solved it, I really did.
The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
i will gladly join the vote once i figure out what i did wrong. and GA, no i didnt solve Round 2 clue. I would've answered before but I did not see it before. My apologies.
Edit: in all the games I've played, I don't ever think there's been this much discussion of me in a game
edit: i found my mistake. a careless one at that. awaiting confirmation.
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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
Edit: in all the games I've played, I don't ever think there's been this much discussion of me in a game
edit: i found my mistake. a careless one at that. awaiting confirmation.
---This message was edited on 2010-10-06 23:40:05---
Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
I just sent in my answer. Hope I'm right
what is sense??and if i am not making sense, then why i say it?? I SAY IT COZ IT MAKE SENSE TO ME BUT WHY IT DON'T MAKE SENSE TO YOU????????? sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is sense??and if i am not making sense, then why i say it?? I SAY IT COZ IT MAKE SENSE TO ME BUT WHY IT DON'T MAKE SENSE TO YOU????????? sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only way to be sure that anyone solved the clue is if they post a vote. Of course, those of us who are humans have no reason to lie, but there are still 2 wolves around and we cannot trust anything they say.
Currently from round 2, 3 people solved the clue and did not vote. One of them we know is KRUGER. The other two are from 4demo, jtolley, ppjones, PsychoMikey, freakshow and TanCW. Since 4demo and jtolley did not post at all and were pretty inactive, I do not think that either of them solved the clue. TanCW claims to have solved the clue but too late to vote. The other 3, freakshow, ppjones and PsychoMikey all say they did not solve the clue, but we know that one of them did solve the clue. So one of these 3 is lying. Since humans have no reason to lie, one of these 3 is a wolf. If all this logic is accurate, that would clear GreenApples and TanCW (if freakshow is human), since they are the other members in the second list (didn't answer list) from round 3. However, if freakshow is a wolf, it would clear everyone in list 1 (those who solved the clue) of round 3.
Of these three, ppjones never posted, but he could have solved it in time and just kept silent. freakshow posted at a time when the answer was almost given out already, but he could have been on very briefly and might not have read the whole thread. PsychoMikey posted 3 of the connecting words, but did not post later in the round. It could be because he was busy later and could not solve the clue completely. My suspicions are, in order, PsychoMikey, freakshow and ppjones.
Currently from round 2, 3 people solved the clue and did not vote. One of them we know is KRUGER. The other two are from 4demo, jtolley, ppjones, PsychoMikey, freakshow and TanCW. Since 4demo and jtolley did not post at all and were pretty inactive, I do not think that either of them solved the clue. TanCW claims to have solved the clue but too late to vote. The other 3, freakshow, ppjones and PsychoMikey all say they did not solve the clue, but we know that one of them did solve the clue. So one of these 3 is lying. Since humans have no reason to lie, one of these 3 is a wolf. If all this logic is accurate, that would clear GreenApples and TanCW (if freakshow is human), since they are the other members in the second list (didn't answer list) from round 3. However, if freakshow is a wolf, it would clear everyone in list 1 (those who solved the clue) of round 3.
Of these three, ppjones never posted, but he could have solved it in time and just kept silent. freakshow posted at a time when the answer was almost given out already, but he could have been on very briefly and might not have read the whole thread. PsychoMikey posted 3 of the connecting words, but did not post later in the round. It could be because he was busy later and could not solve the clue completely. My suspicions are, in order, PsychoMikey, freakshow and ppjones.
krishnan wrote:
Those were my thoughts exactly. Once I relooked at the voters and non voters each round and clearly wrote out the possibilities, my thoughts have changed slightly, but only to add CW in my suspicion list. So for me it would be Psycho, freak, CW and pp.
We know Kruger was a wolf and solved the 2nd round challenge as all wolves did. Freak says he didn't solve the challenge. pp didn't post so it could be either or for him. CW says he solved it. That leaves Psycho who hasn't said if they solved the challenge.
PP says this round that he solved the 3rd challenge last round. Question is did he send a response to Giz, because if he did, then either krishnan or pp is lying as only 1 of them could have earned the right to vote as 5 of the 6 who earned the right, did vote.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Of these three, ppjones never posted, but he could have solved it in time and just kept silent. freakshow posted at a time when the answer was almost given out already, but he could have been on very briefly and might not have read the whole thread. PsychoMikey posted 3 of the connecting words, but did not post later in the round. It could be because he was busy later and could not solve the clue completely. My suspicions are, in order, PsychoMikey, freakshow and ppjones.
Those were my thoughts exactly. Once I relooked at the voters and non voters each round and clearly wrote out the possibilities, my thoughts have changed slightly, but only to add CW in my suspicion list. So for me it would be Psycho, freak, CW and pp.
We know Kruger was a wolf and solved the 2nd round challenge as all wolves did. Freak says he didn't solve the challenge. pp didn't post so it could be either or for him. CW says he solved it. That leaves Psycho who hasn't said if they solved the challenge.
PP says this round that he solved the 3rd challenge last round. Question is did he send a response to Giz, because if he did, then either krishnan or pp is lying as only 1 of them could have earned the right to vote as 5 of the 6 who earned the right, did vote.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
1 hour 45 minutes to go. I wonder if anyone else got the right to vote before the round ends,
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
as promised, im now voting psycho
Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
Nine people gathered to discuss the situation. "Let's split up," advised one player. "Trust no one!" cried another. One player remained silent. The others circled him warily. Someone drew a gun. "Shoot him, quick!" As the sun lowered in the western sky, a shot rang out. A lone howl of mourning was heard, but from whom?
PsychoMikey was a wolf.
Solution to the Round 4 Challenge
The cipher (keyword = eye-d) was correctly solved and the celebrity was correctly eye-dentified from in the Celebrity Identification Quiz.
Prince Charles is mentioned in question #10 of cnmne's Year in Review: 1996.
Quiz #1996 is liser's 80's Sitcoms.
92.1% of quiz takers answered question #9 correctly. The correct answer for Mr T's famous catch phrase is "I pity the fool."
The other quotes that have become part of popular culture:
"What you talkin' about, Willis?" ~ Gary Coleman as Arnold Jackson in Diff'rent Strokes
"Well, of course not, don't be ridi-cool-us." ~ Bronson Pinchot as Balki Bartokomous in Perfect Strangers
"I'll be back." ~ Arnold Schwarzenegger in The Terminator
"Make my day." ~ Clint Eastwood as "Dirty" Harry Calahan in Sudden Impact
Seven players earned the right to vote: 6 humans and 1 wolf.
All voting rights are now rescinded.
Round 5 Challenge
No more games. Determine the meaning of the following rebus to win the right to vote:
PsychoMikey was a wolf.
Solution to the Round 4 Challenge
The cipher (keyword = eye-d) was correctly solved and the celebrity was correctly eye-dentified from in the Celebrity Identification Quiz.
Prince Charles is mentioned in question #10 of cnmne's Year in Review: 1996.
Quiz #1996 is liser's 80's Sitcoms.
92.1% of quiz takers answered question #9 correctly. The correct answer for Mr T's famous catch phrase is "I pity the fool."
The other quotes that have become part of popular culture:
"What you talkin' about, Willis?" ~ Gary Coleman as Arnold Jackson in Diff'rent Strokes
"Well, of course not, don't be ridi-cool-us." ~ Bronson Pinchot as Balki Bartokomous in Perfect Strangers
"I'll be back." ~ Arnold Schwarzenegger in The Terminator
"Make my day." ~ Clint Eastwood as "Dirty" Harry Calahan in Sudden Impact
Seven players earned the right to vote: 6 humans and 1 wolf.
All voting rights are now rescinded.
Round 5 Challenge
No more games. Determine the meaning of the following rebus to win the right to vote:
manzel
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