The Werewolf Game
Game #231: Hawaiian Holiday 4
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This game finished in 10 rounds.
round 2, what should we do? the sky is blue. I'm wearing a white shoe. Do you have the flu?
No...but nice poetry. And maybe you'd better put on your other shoe.
So zona was wrong about LegalMumboJumbo...who would have wanted to throw suspicion off him?
So zona was wrong about LegalMumboJumbo...who would have wanted to throw suspicion off him?
nick was throwing stones last round, So I'll stay there.
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i'm gonna go with Spice. legal voted for her and now he's gone
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
I'm going with Spice as well.
It takes more than one vote from the wolves to eat someone. So it's not necessarily Spice. I think I'm gunna wait to vote.
Somebody could be trying to frame Spice. I'm gonna wait also.
Viva la vie boheme :)
Viva la vie boheme :)
I am going to take a fish vote on grilledcheese, I have been a little suspicious of him from last round.
I'm going for Nick. He seems a bit suspicious.
Viva la vie boheme :)
Viva la vie boheme :)
I don't know who I'm voting for yet. I don't like just ganging up on random people. Hmm..
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
1. please everyone explain why we are suspicious
2. im not gonna double/triple post anymore so if i edit my posts a lot thats why
3. im fishvoting hermione granger...people always vote for me because i am intrinsically suspicious whether im wolf or not, and about 75% of the time those people are wolves when they give no explanation.
2. im not gonna double/triple post anymore so if i edit my posts a lot thats why
3. im fishvoting hermione granger...people always vote for me because i am intrinsically suspicious whether im wolf or not, and about 75% of the time those people are wolves when they give no explanation.
bRIN wrote:
Legal gone, I'd go spice also, I cant belive they would eat someone unless they were close to outing someone.
vroom vroom vroom
i'm gonna go with Spice. legal voted for her and now he's gone
Legal gone, I'd go spice also, I cant belive they would eat someone unless they were close to outing someone.
vroom vroom vroom
who am i kidding, theres no evidence yet...ill just check if im shot in the morning
I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now nick, I dont like going in majorities all the time either just because they can usually be humans. If I am eaten, then that proves that grilledcheese is a wolf, and you guys should vote for him next round.
I was suprised too zonaracer, usually wolves eat inactives first so that no suspicion is on them.
I was suprised too zonaracer, usually wolves eat inactives first so that no suspicion is on them.
soccerguy0428 wrote:
SO YOU ADMIT YOURE A FISH SOCCERGUY!
I am going to take a fish vote on grilledcheese, I have been a little suspicious of him from last round.
SO YOU ADMIT YOURE A FISH SOCCERGUY!
What??? I dont get what you mean.
I am sure that 3 or 4 wolves were along with us in the majority last round:
bpkeller voted for thepoppinbrain
bRIN voted for thepoppinbrain
Gizzer voted for thepoppinbrain
grilledcheese voted for thepoppinbrain
HermioneGranger voted for thepoppinbrain
iminaaa voted for thepoppinbrain
MattM462 voted for thepoppinbrain
nickmanning214 voted for thepoppinbrain
pokpic voted for thepoppinbrain
soccerguy0428 voted for thepoppinbrain
zonaracer voted for thepoppinbrain
With 11 people on that list though, it may be hard to actually tell who the people would be. That is why I am taking a fish vote for grilledcheese, he voted in the majority, and he made the most suspicion to me.
bpkeller voted for thepoppinbrain
bRIN voted for thepoppinbrain
Gizzer voted for thepoppinbrain
grilledcheese voted for thepoppinbrain
HermioneGranger voted for thepoppinbrain
iminaaa voted for thepoppinbrain
MattM462 voted for thepoppinbrain
nickmanning214 voted for thepoppinbrain
pokpic voted for thepoppinbrain
soccerguy0428 voted for thepoppinbrain
zonaracer voted for thepoppinbrain
With 11 people on that list though, it may be hard to actually tell who the people would be. That is why I am taking a fish vote for grilledcheese, he voted in the majority, and he made the most suspicion to me.
get it? cause wolves= sharks?
hhaaaaa im not funny
hhaaaaa im not funny
Oh haha, yeah sure you can go off of that even though its wrong. I dont mind being a human as I have gotten to be a wolf once out of my previous 15 games. Not really fair and something should be done about it, but I have realized that nothing will be so I will just have to keep being a human on these games.
wait, so since i was in the majority, i made the most suspision? that makes nooo sense at all. well i would vote for soccerguy, cuz he's trying to get people to vote for me, and THAT to me is suspicious. but i might go with the majority again. i dunno.
ok well right now ima vote for soccerguy, just cuz he is the only one who is suspicious to me. Spice doesn't seem really all the suspicious...plus he's going on about him always being human..i dunno just suspicious. i'll probably change my vote later
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---This message was edited on 2007-10-19 23:03:40---
Ok so, before I get shot, I have to make sure I tell you guys this:
Someone voted for thepoppinbrain, then everyone else hopped on the bandwagon and voted for her too. Just because this happens, it doesn't mean it's the best choice.
And when someone decides not to jump on the bandwagon, it doesn't automatically mean they're not on your side. It could mean they're trying to do what's best, though maybe sometimes it does mean they're against you.
I'm not sure if that sounded mean or not, but if it did, I didn't mean for it to. It's just so, after I'm shot, and later after this game ends, you'll be able to see what I mean.
1.) I really don't think thepoppinbrain was a wolf.
2.) Most likely, people are gonna vote for me now because of what a few others have done.
Now, I'll admit, I've done my fair share of bandwagon-jumping. I'll also admit that it's not always a bad thing (like if someone's gonna be voted off anyways, and it's a long time before the "day" period ends, I for one think it would be a good enough reason), but please learn it's not always the best choice.
One last thing, if you seriously think I'm a wolf, and I can see why you would since Legal voted for me and now he's gone, then go ahead and vote for me. But you really shouldn't just because everyone else did.
That doesn't just apply to me, but to anyone you vote for after me. Remember: wolves are voting too.
Now, my vote is going to zona because he keeps attacking me, and I don't know why.
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
Someone voted for thepoppinbrain, then everyone else hopped on the bandwagon and voted for her too. Just because this happens, it doesn't mean it's the best choice.
And when someone decides not to jump on the bandwagon, it doesn't automatically mean they're not on your side. It could mean they're trying to do what's best, though maybe sometimes it does mean they're against you.
I'm not sure if that sounded mean or not, but if it did, I didn't mean for it to. It's just so, after I'm shot, and later after this game ends, you'll be able to see what I mean.
1.) I really don't think thepoppinbrain was a wolf.
2.) Most likely, people are gonna vote for me now because of what a few others have done.
Now, I'll admit, I've done my fair share of bandwagon-jumping. I'll also admit that it's not always a bad thing (like if someone's gonna be voted off anyways, and it's a long time before the "day" period ends, I for one think it would be a good enough reason), but please learn it's not always the best choice.
One last thing, if you seriously think I'm a wolf, and I can see why you would since Legal voted for me and now he's gone, then go ahead and vote for me. But you really shouldn't just because everyone else did.
That doesn't just apply to me, but to anyone you vote for after me. Remember: wolves are voting too.
Now, my vote is going to zona because he keeps attacking me, and I don't know why.
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
First of all, I must say to nick that your math is atrocious. The odds that the first person shot is human is 80% (16 out of 20), not 99.9%. I dare say people aren't shooting you because you are vocal, it is because what you say makes no sense.
Zona, you are a hypocrite. You originally voted for nick, and only changed your vote at the last minute. Don't start saying the others are against "us"; you weren't part of "us" at first and are just as suspicious as they are, if not moreso, as a result of changing your vote.
Grilledcheese, you are twisting soccerguy's words. He didn't say you are the most suspicious because you voted in the majority. He said he considers you the most suspicious from last round (no particular reason given), and you voted in the majority. Two separate things.
Soccerguy, if you get eaten, it doesn't prove that grilledcheese is a wolf, it only proves that you are human. If you say, "I'm the seer, and grilledcheese is a wolf", and then you get eaten, that would prove grilledcheese is a wolf.
There are people who are voting without posting: iminaaa (round 1), Crazycriely, MattM462 and pokpic (round 2 so far). I don't like it when people don't post, but vote. One problem is that you can't tell when they voted. And in principle, this is a social game, so I think you should say something, not just vote. If you aren't going to say why you voted, you aren't helping the humans, and you could be a wolf afraid of saying something wrong.
So far, 5 votes for Spice, 3 for nick, and 1 each for soccerguy0428, HermioneGranger, grilledcheese and zonaracer. Somel fish votes, some retaliatory votes, no clear majority, and no truly compelling reason to vote for any of them.
Yes, Legal voted for spice and was eaten. That proves only that legal is human, not that Spice is a wolf. Spice might be a wolf, I don't know, but having someone who voted for you get eaten doesn't prove it.
The one compelling fact we have is that night did not time out. That means a majority was reached, or all wolves voted. It is the last wolf to vote that can sometimes be determined.
I logged off for the night about 1.5 hours before night ended. At that time, bpkeller, MattM462, mik512, soccerguy0428 and solarsistim321 had not yet signed on "today". I note that solarsistim still has not signed on. That tells me that he was not the last wolf to vote, and is most likely human. I believe that the last wolf to vote was therefore either bpkeller, MattM462, mik512 or soccerguy0428.
Of those bpkeller posted early in the round, and was quick to go along with the vote for Spice.
MattM462 didn't post this round but jumped on the Spice wagon. That could be so that no one knew when he was on-line in relation to the start of the round. He apparently fell asleep during his one post in the first round, and sleepvoted in the majority.
Mik512 also posted early in the round, was adamant that we shouldn't vote for poppinbrain last round. He is still voting for nick for "throwing stones". If mik is a wolf, then poppinbrain was also probably a wolf. It would certainly be good for the humans if that is true.
Soccerguy is fish voting for grilledcheese, no reason given other than he considers him "the most suspicious".
Four good suspects, but I consider not posting more suspicious, so I will vote for MattM462.
Zona, you are a hypocrite. You originally voted for nick, and only changed your vote at the last minute. Don't start saying the others are against "us"; you weren't part of "us" at first and are just as suspicious as they are, if not moreso, as a result of changing your vote.
Grilledcheese, you are twisting soccerguy's words. He didn't say you are the most suspicious because you voted in the majority. He said he considers you the most suspicious from last round (no particular reason given), and you voted in the majority. Two separate things.
Soccerguy, if you get eaten, it doesn't prove that grilledcheese is a wolf, it only proves that you are human. If you say, "I'm the seer, and grilledcheese is a wolf", and then you get eaten, that would prove grilledcheese is a wolf.
There are people who are voting without posting: iminaaa (round 1), Crazycriely, MattM462 and pokpic (round 2 so far). I don't like it when people don't post, but vote. One problem is that you can't tell when they voted. And in principle, this is a social game, so I think you should say something, not just vote. If you aren't going to say why you voted, you aren't helping the humans, and you could be a wolf afraid of saying something wrong.
So far, 5 votes for Spice, 3 for nick, and 1 each for soccerguy0428, HermioneGranger, grilledcheese and zonaracer. Somel fish votes, some retaliatory votes, no clear majority, and no truly compelling reason to vote for any of them.
Yes, Legal voted for spice and was eaten. That proves only that legal is human, not that Spice is a wolf. Spice might be a wolf, I don't know, but having someone who voted for you get eaten doesn't prove it.
The one compelling fact we have is that night did not time out. That means a majority was reached, or all wolves voted. It is the last wolf to vote that can sometimes be determined.
I logged off for the night about 1.5 hours before night ended. At that time, bpkeller, MattM462, mik512, soccerguy0428 and solarsistim321 had not yet signed on "today". I note that solarsistim still has not signed on. That tells me that he was not the last wolf to vote, and is most likely human. I believe that the last wolf to vote was therefore either bpkeller, MattM462, mik512 or soccerguy0428.
Of those bpkeller posted early in the round, and was quick to go along with the vote for Spice.
MattM462 didn't post this round but jumped on the Spice wagon. That could be so that no one knew when he was on-line in relation to the start of the round. He apparently fell asleep during his one post in the first round, and sleepvoted in the majority.
Mik512 also posted early in the round, was adamant that we shouldn't vote for poppinbrain last round. He is still voting for nick for "throwing stones". If mik is a wolf, then poppinbrain was also probably a wolf. It would certainly be good for the humans if that is true.
Soccerguy is fish voting for grilledcheese, no reason given other than he considers him "the most suspicious".
Four good suspects, but I consider not posting more suspicious, so I will vote for MattM462.
You can create a majority, on me, its a mistake, but there isnt anything I can do to prove it. I am still somewhat convinced that grilledcheese is a wolf, I know I dont have any evidence though, so I will just stick with my fish vote for the round.
Gizzer wrote:
During the first few rounds it seems that those willing to play as a team are humans, those dividing up the vote are wolves, Being a first round it seemed more important for solidarity then division, the wolves will make mistakes outing themselves as part of human nature. It is a prety devisive post you have nearly everyone in you post as suspicious. Why are you trying to protect spice? The wolves are the only ones motivated to protect each other.
We should try to stay together as a group, the wolves will try to divide us so they can pick us off without suspicon. Just my take on the game so far. I am pretty sure spice is a good vote since it seems we were all together and now after some posting we are scattering like sheep.
vroom vroom vroom
First of all, I must say to nick that your math is atrocious. The odds that the first person shot is human is 80% (16 out of 20), not 99.9%. I dare say people aren't shooting you because you are vocal, it is because what you say makes no sense.
Zona, you are a hypocrite. You originally voted for nick, and only changed your vote at the last minute. Don't start saying the others are against "us"; you weren't part of "us" at first and are just as suspicious as they are, if not moreso, as a result of changing your vote.
Grilledcheese, you are twisting soccerguy's words. He didn't say you are the most suspicious because you voted in the majority. He said he considers you the most suspicious from last round (no particular reason given), and you voted in the majority. Two separate things.
Soccerguy, if you get eaten, it doesn't prove that grilledcheese is a wolf, it only proves that you are human. If you say, "I'm the seer, and grilledcheese is a wolf", and then you get eaten, that would prove grilledcheese is a wolf.
There are people who are voting without posting: iminaaa (round 1), Crazycriely, MattM462 and pokpic (round 2 so far). I don't like it when people don't post, but vote. One problem is that you can't tell when they voted. And in principle, this is a social game, so I think you should say something, not just vote. If you aren't going to say why you voted, you aren't helping the humans, and you could be a wolf afraid of saying something wrong.
So far, 5 votes for Spice, 3 for nick, and 1 each for soccerguy0428, HermioneGranger, grilledcheese and zonaracer. Somel fish votes, some retaliatory votes, no clear majority, and no truly compelling reason to vote for any of them.
Yes, Legal voted for spice and was eaten. That proves only that legal is human, not that Spice is a wolf. Spice might be a wolf, I don't know, but having someone who voted for you get eaten doesn't prove it.
The one compelling fact we have is that night did not time out. That means a majority was reached, or all wolves voted. It is the last wolf to vote that can sometimes be determined.
I logged off for the night about 1.5 hours before night ended. At that time, bpkeller, MattM462, mik512, soccerguy0428 and solarsistim321 had not yet signed on "today". I note that solarsistim still has not signed on. That tells me that he was not the last wolf to vote, and is most likely human. I believe that the last wolf to vote was therefore either bpkeller, MattM462, mik512 or soccerguy0428.
Of those bpkeller posted early in the round, and was quick to go along with the vote for Spice.
MattM462 didn't post this round but jumped on the Spice wagon. That could be so that no one knew when he was on-line in relation to the start of the round. He apparently fell asleep during his one post in the first round, and sleepvoted in the majority.
Mik512 also posted early in the round, was adamant that we shouldn't vote for poppinbrain last round. He is still voting for nick for "throwing stones". If mik is a wolf, then poppinbrain was also probably a wolf. It would certainly be good for the humans if that is true.
Soccerguy is fish voting for grilledcheese, no reason given other than he considers him "the most suspicious".
Four good suspects, but I consider not posting more suspicious, so I will vote for MattM462.
Zona, you are a hypocrite. You originally voted for nick, and only changed your vote at the last minute. Don't start saying the others are against "us"; you weren't part of "us" at first and are just as suspicious as they are, if not moreso, as a result of changing your vote.
Grilledcheese, you are twisting soccerguy's words. He didn't say you are the most suspicious because you voted in the majority. He said he considers you the most suspicious from last round (no particular reason given), and you voted in the majority. Two separate things.
Soccerguy, if you get eaten, it doesn't prove that grilledcheese is a wolf, it only proves that you are human. If you say, "I'm the seer, and grilledcheese is a wolf", and then you get eaten, that would prove grilledcheese is a wolf.
There are people who are voting without posting: iminaaa (round 1), Crazycriely, MattM462 and pokpic (round 2 so far). I don't like it when people don't post, but vote. One problem is that you can't tell when they voted. And in principle, this is a social game, so I think you should say something, not just vote. If you aren't going to say why you voted, you aren't helping the humans, and you could be a wolf afraid of saying something wrong.
So far, 5 votes for Spice, 3 for nick, and 1 each for soccerguy0428, HermioneGranger, grilledcheese and zonaracer. Somel fish votes, some retaliatory votes, no clear majority, and no truly compelling reason to vote for any of them.
Yes, Legal voted for spice and was eaten. That proves only that legal is human, not that Spice is a wolf. Spice might be a wolf, I don't know, but having someone who voted for you get eaten doesn't prove it.
The one compelling fact we have is that night did not time out. That means a majority was reached, or all wolves voted. It is the last wolf to vote that can sometimes be determined.
I logged off for the night about 1.5 hours before night ended. At that time, bpkeller, MattM462, mik512, soccerguy0428 and solarsistim321 had not yet signed on "today". I note that solarsistim still has not signed on. That tells me that he was not the last wolf to vote, and is most likely human. I believe that the last wolf to vote was therefore either bpkeller, MattM462, mik512 or soccerguy0428.
Of those bpkeller posted early in the round, and was quick to go along with the vote for Spice.
MattM462 didn't post this round but jumped on the Spice wagon. That could be so that no one knew when he was on-line in relation to the start of the round. He apparently fell asleep during his one post in the first round, and sleepvoted in the majority.
Mik512 also posted early in the round, was adamant that we shouldn't vote for poppinbrain last round. He is still voting for nick for "throwing stones". If mik is a wolf, then poppinbrain was also probably a wolf. It would certainly be good for the humans if that is true.
Soccerguy is fish voting for grilledcheese, no reason given other than he considers him "the most suspicious".
Four good suspects, but I consider not posting more suspicious, so I will vote for MattM462.
During the first few rounds it seems that those willing to play as a team are humans, those dividing up the vote are wolves, Being a first round it seemed more important for solidarity then division, the wolves will make mistakes outing themselves as part of human nature. It is a prety devisive post you have nearly everyone in you post as suspicious. Why are you trying to protect spice? The wolves are the only ones motivated to protect each other.
We should try to stay together as a group, the wolves will try to divide us so they can pick us off without suspicon. Just my take on the game so far. I am pretty sure spice is a good vote since it seems we were all together and now after some posting we are scattering like sheep.
vroom vroom vroom
Zona, you read all that and decided I was protecting Spice? Perhaps you can explain to me how casting a single vote for another player protects the person who has the majority of votes?
Eight people have "divided the vote" by not voting for spice, zona. Are you suggesting there are 8 sharks in the game? There are only 4, and they would be only too happy to vote in a big pack for a human. The bigger the pack, the better, as that offers them protection.
In the first round we had no evidence to go on. Now that we do, I will use it rather than vote blindly. I may be right, I may be wrong, but I will always explain myself, and always point out fallacies in others' arguments for as long as I am in the game.
Eight people have "divided the vote" by not voting for spice, zona. Are you suggesting there are 8 sharks in the game? There are only 4, and they would be only too happy to vote in a big pack for a human. The bigger the pack, the better, as that offers them protection.
In the first round we had no evidence to go on. Now that we do, I will use it rather than vote blindly. I may be right, I may be wrong, but I will always explain myself, and always point out fallacies in others' arguments for as long as I am in the game.
The fallacies is right now the vote is spread among 6 players, 8 players per your post have voted 5 other people, which does not help us as a whole, If we have a better suspicion then spice I will go along, but everyone voting not as a team may allow a multiple tie to occur, which a random person is shot. Weeding one person out at a time and going for whoever is the most divisive seems the best route to win in this game. Just breaking it down psychologically, wolves have to protect each other, as humans we lose one a night, but even if we get shot or are eaten as long as we shot the wolves we all win and they lose. We have sacrifice going for us. Legal had made some good point and was eaten so those points had to be protecting a wolf. If that is wrong spice would have gone up and majority vote for her would have occurred because she was human. Since no majority has occurred she may be a wolf. I think that is a valid conclusion. So as long as we are playing as a team, they can't win. There are too many rounds for that to happen. Which is just as my opionion.
vroom vroom vroom
vroom vroom vroom
Im voting for spice
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
I don't believe that keeping quiet and voting blindly for one person helps the humans at all, zona. When the vote is split, we learn things we cannot when the vote is quick and all for one person. If everyone were perfectly happy to vote for Spice, what do you learn? Nothing, really. Either she is human, so the sharks are happy to vote for her, or she is a shark, and the others aren't stupid enough to try to save themselves by protecting her. But how do you tell a happy shark from a human who is scared to buck the majority in case they get shot? You can't.
When the vote is split, it leaves more time for discussion. If the vote had been a quick majority last night, before I had a chance to post, you wouldn't now have the information I gave about the last wolf to vote.
Even the fact that some people don't talk, or don't vote is helpful, if one can correctly figure out the information given.
You say that Spice is a good candidate for a wolf. Perhaps she is a wolf. It certainly looks like she will be shot tonight, whether or not I change my vote. As I said earlier, I don't know if she is or not. I do believe that one of the 4 people I presented was the final wolf to vote. Perhaps that will be my sacrifice for the team.
When the vote is split, it leaves more time for discussion. If the vote had been a quick majority last night, before I had a chance to post, you wouldn't now have the information I gave about the last wolf to vote.
Even the fact that some people don't talk, or don't vote is helpful, if one can correctly figure out the information given.
You say that Spice is a good candidate for a wolf. Perhaps she is a wolf. It certainly looks like she will be shot tonight, whether or not I change my vote. As I said earlier, I don't know if she is or not. I do believe that one of the 4 people I presented was the final wolf to vote. Perhaps that will be my sacrifice for the team.
okay its getting serious now
SPICE: i agree with you, the poppinbrain was probably a human, and that's my bad. The reason I led a charge against him is because it was the first round so there was no way we would be able to decide clearly who was a shark. So I decided to kill him to move the game along, so that maybe nights wont go 24 whole hours. Kind of like your reasoning of
"I'll also admit that it's not always a bad thing (like if someone's gonna be voted off anyways, and it's a long time before the 'day' period ends, I for one think it would be a good enough reason), but please learn it's not always the best choice."
It is not always the best choice but it was in round 1.
GIZZER: my math wasn't an attempt at a real statistic, I was just exaggerating the odds of shooting a wolf in round 1 to make a point. Like, we have no idea and were never gonna get one anyway, so lets just shoot an inactive. Everything else, well said, I agree for the most part.
As for the argument between zona and gizzer, i agree that spice is the obvious choice to kill, then I think we should go after soccerguy instead of MattM because he is throwing out votes without helping us. I was suspicious of him and your reasoning, gizzer, sealed the deal.
Gizzer I can understand your indeciciveness to kill Spice but I can't see a better choice right now since we have other rounds to kill other sharks anyway. I will start looking at those 4 players closely next round.
As for who to trust, right now I trust Gizzer,and...thats about it. It's basically a dice roll we need more information.
EDIT: changed my vote to spice as i have no reson to believe hermione is a wolf anymore
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SPICE: i agree with you, the poppinbrain was probably a human, and that's my bad. The reason I led a charge against him is because it was the first round so there was no way we would be able to decide clearly who was a shark. So I decided to kill him to move the game along, so that maybe nights wont go 24 whole hours. Kind of like your reasoning of
"I'll also admit that it's not always a bad thing (like if someone's gonna be voted off anyways, and it's a long time before the 'day' period ends, I for one think it would be a good enough reason), but please learn it's not always the best choice."
It is not always the best choice but it was in round 1.
GIZZER: my math wasn't an attempt at a real statistic, I was just exaggerating the odds of shooting a wolf in round 1 to make a point. Like, we have no idea and were never gonna get one anyway, so lets just shoot an inactive. Everything else, well said, I agree for the most part.
As for the argument between zona and gizzer, i agree that spice is the obvious choice to kill, then I think we should go after soccerguy instead of MattM because he is throwing out votes without helping us. I was suspicious of him and your reasoning, gizzer, sealed the deal.
Gizzer I can understand your indeciciveness to kill Spice but I can't see a better choice right now since we have other rounds to kill other sharks anyway. I will start looking at those 4 players closely next round.
As for who to trust, right now I trust Gizzer,and...thats about it. It's basically a dice roll we need more information.
EDIT: changed my vote to spice as i have no reson to believe hermione is a wolf anymore
---This message was edited on 2007-10-20 12:29:29---
*Reads Gizzer's long post*
Wow... You must have played in a lot of these games...
Sorry about voting and not posting. I haven't played in too many werewolf games, and still haven't quite gotten the hang of it, so I tend to fish vote and just go with the majority in the early rounds (especially since this is only the second game I've been in)
Wow... You must have played in a lot of these games...
Sorry about voting and not posting. I haven't played in too many werewolf games, and still haven't quite gotten the hang of it, so I tend to fish vote and just go with the majority in the early rounds (especially since this is only the second game I've been in)
its okay iminaaa but you can still contribute. If you have an idea, present it!
Not to cast attention to myself or anything, but I was the one that threw Spice's name into the mix, though I was the second person to vote for her. It's never easy to decide who to vote for or what the rationale is. Unfortunately I came on 51minutes after night ended so I didn't get a look at the list of people online.
There are twenty people in this game and it seems only half or so (I'm not doing the math) aren't voting and about half of the voters are posting...I was hoping this would be a more active game but oh well.
I've played 4 games and moderated one. I enjoy the game no matter who wins and even when I've been eaten or killed in the first or second rounds... The one thing I've learned is that it is easier to decieve people into thinking you're human than it is to defend yourself when accused of being a wolf.
I'm sticking with Spice this round and I'll listen to everyone's "Logic" before jumping to choices next round. Sorry Spice...we've been in a couple games together and they've all been fun
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
There are twenty people in this game and it seems only half or so (I'm not doing the math) aren't voting and about half of the voters are posting...I was hoping this would be a more active game but oh well.
I've played 4 games and moderated one. I enjoy the game no matter who wins and even when I've been eaten or killed in the first or second rounds... The one thing I've learned is that it is easier to decieve people into thinking you're human than it is to defend yourself when accused of being a wolf.
I'm sticking with Spice this round and I'll listen to everyone's "Logic" before jumping to choices next round. Sorry Spice...we've been in a couple games together and they've all been fun
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
iminaaa wrote:
This is my 8th game.
*Reads Gizzer's long post*
Wow... You must have played in a lot of these games...
Wow... You must have played in a lot of these games...
This is my 8th game.
I think it should be illegal to determine who the wolves are by checking who's online...that's just boring and it slows down the game because wolves have to wait until no one is online. Same thing for who's the boss.
Also if someone hasn't been online in 24 hours they should have an "I" next to their name for "inactive".
I played a game with smeraldina and hiimdavid moderated by jpaw and he established the rule of "no park and bark" and it made the game REALLLLYYY interesting. It came down to the end where the last wolf was either smeraldina or drinkinggourd...if you wanna check it out it was probably the best game ever to be played on this site. I like reading transcripts of old games sometimes...but that probably makes me a loser.
Also if someone hasn't been online in 24 hours they should have an "I" next to their name for "inactive".
I played a game with smeraldina and hiimdavid moderated by jpaw and he established the rule of "no park and bark" and it made the game REALLLLYYY interesting. It came down to the end where the last wolf was either smeraldina or drinkinggourd...if you wanna check it out it was probably the best game ever to be played on this site. I like reading transcripts of old games sometimes...but that probably makes me a loser.
Ok well, thanks Gizz for clearing that up earlier (about what Soccerguy said)
2nd (to soccerguy): Just because you get eaten, doesn't mean I'm a wolf, and you are attacking me for reason. But that's okay, cuz it's a fish vote, I guess. I don't see what I've done to cause any suspision?
2nd (to soccerguy): Just because you get eaten, doesn't mean I'm a wolf, and you are attacking me for reason. But that's okay, cuz it's a fish vote, I guess. I don't see what I've done to cause any suspision?
lets compromise. grilledcheese and socerguy can vote for spice to move this along
This game has got to be the most interesting game of Werewolf I have ever been in. People are actually starting to use their brains. Piemom, I'm giving this game a top rating. Even if I get shot.
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
Gizzer wrote:
MattM462 didn't post, and that doesn't prove anything. Yes, he might try to avoid suspicion, but he might just be too busy trying to read everyone's superlong posts.
Mik512 defended poppin, yes, but if most everybody voted for poppin, then it's likely poppin was a wolf, because wolves don't vote out wolves. Mik could've just been trying to point this out.
Soccerguy fish voted this round. Everyone fish votes sometimes.
And myself, hey, go ahead and vote for me if you want to. I don't care, it's one vote. Everyone can vote me out if they want to. Just don't get your hopes up.
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...I logged off for the night about 1.5 hours before night ended. At that time, bpkeller, MattM462, mik512, soccerguy0428 and solarsistim321 had not yet signed on "today". I note that solarsistim still has not signed on. That tells me that he was not the last wolf to vote, and is most likely human. I believe that the last wolf to vote was therefore either bpkeller, MattM462, mik512 or soccerguy0428.
Of those bpkeller posted early in the round, and was quick to go along with the vote for Spice.
MattM462 didn't post this round but jumped on the Spice wagon. That could be so that no one knew when he was on-line in relation to the start of the round. He apparently fell asleep during his one post in the first round, and sleepvoted in the majority.
Mik512 also posted early in the round, was adamant that we shouldn't vote for poppinbrain last round. He is still voting for nick for "throwing stones". If mik is a wolf, then poppinbrain was also probably a wolf. It would certainly be good for the humans if that is true.
Soccerguy is fish voting for grilledcheese, no reason given other than he considers him "the most suspicious".
Four good suspects, but I consider not posting more suspicious, so I will vote for MattM462.
Of those bpkeller posted early in the round, and was quick to go along with the vote for Spice.
MattM462 didn't post this round but jumped on the Spice wagon. That could be so that no one knew when he was on-line in relation to the start of the round. He apparently fell asleep during his one post in the first round, and sleepvoted in the majority.
Mik512 also posted early in the round, was adamant that we shouldn't vote for poppinbrain last round. He is still voting for nick for "throwing stones". If mik is a wolf, then poppinbrain was also probably a wolf. It would certainly be good for the humans if that is true.
Soccerguy is fish voting for grilledcheese, no reason given other than he considers him "the most suspicious".
Four good suspects, but I consider not posting more suspicious, so I will vote for MattM462.
MattM462 didn't post, and that doesn't prove anything. Yes, he might try to avoid suspicion, but he might just be too busy trying to read everyone's superlong posts.
Mik512 defended poppin, yes, but if most everybody voted for poppin, then it's likely poppin was a wolf, because wolves don't vote out wolves. Mik could've just been trying to point this out.
Soccerguy fish voted this round. Everyone fish votes sometimes.
And myself, hey, go ahead and vote for me if you want to. I don't care, it's one vote. Everyone can vote me out if they want to. Just don't get your hopes up.
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I wish Hermione would have given a better reason for voting for nick, I'm beginning to second guess myself on Spice...and I'm thinking I want to change my vote this round to Nick but I'd like to have somebody else give me a better reason.
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Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
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Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
lol bRIN if you think im a wolf vote for me, but why would you if you dont have enough evidence to think im a wolf?
I'm beginning to second guess myself on Spice- it was something she said in her long post...LOL I wish we knew who the seer was and who they were voting for.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
darnit, i gotta stop joining 48 hour round games
I know the feeling nick...it makes for a LOOONNNG game when everyone doesn't check in daily knowing that they have two days.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
bpkeller wrote:
I do believe I struck a nerve.
MattM462 didn't post, and that doesn't prove anything. Yes, he might try to avoid suspicion, but he might just be too busy trying to read everyone's superlong posts.
Mik512 defended poppin, yes, but if most everybody voted for poppin, then it's likely poppin was a wolf, because wolves don't vote out wolves. Mik could've just been trying to point this out.
Soccerguy fish voted this round. Everyone fish votes sometimes.
And myself, hey, go ahead and vote for me if you want to. I don't care, it's one vote. Everyone can vote me out if they want to. Just don't get your hopes up.
Mik512 defended poppin, yes, but if most everybody voted for poppin, then it's likely poppin was a wolf, because wolves don't vote out wolves. Mik could've just been trying to point this out.
Soccerguy fish voted this round. Everyone fish votes sometimes.
And myself, hey, go ahead and vote for me if you want to. I don't care, it's one vote. Everyone can vote me out if they want to. Just don't get your hopes up.
I do believe I struck a nerve.
This has been the most fun I've been in. People are actually posting and using logic... not just a game of fish votes. . And I'm voting for nick because he just seems a bit suspicious with all that talk about of course being human. It sounds sorta obvious.
Viva la vie boheme :)
Viva la vie boheme :)
I'm sorry for my bandwagon-jumping, but I don't have a lot of time (read: over 1/6 of next week is going to be spent at Beauty and the Beast practice), so I'll just go for Spice, 2. No offence.
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Well, all but 3 people have voted:
It seems iminaaa has switched from voting without posting to posting without voting.
Shawnheyhey123 has done neither yet, although he has been on-line today. Interestingly, he didn't vote in the last round either.
And as I mentioned above, solarsistim321 hasn't been on-line in the last 2 days.
It seems iminaaa has switched from voting without posting to posting without voting.
Shawnheyhey123 has done neither yet, although he has been on-line today. Interestingly, he didn't vote in the last round either.
And as I mentioned above, solarsistim321 hasn't been on-line in the last 2 days.
woo this is the best game i've been in, people are actually conversing
I was looking at shawnheyhey, too. It seemed odd that he's on, but didn't vote. Maybe he just forgot about the game?? *shrugs* or just trying to get us to think he's inactive
I was looking at shawnheyhey, too. It seemed odd that he's on, but didn't vote. Maybe he just forgot about the game?? *shrugs* or just trying to get us to think he's inactive
shawnheyhey sucks...one time he was the boss and it took forrevveerrr for him to post memos. Wolves, can you please eat that man?
Edit: i mean sharks
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Edit: i mean sharks
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Gizzer wrote:
Yep. Going to wait a bit this time to see if there's someone else that would be more likely to be a wolf before jumping on the bandwagon.
I'm usually pretty good with logic... But not that good with using logic in social games.
Well, all but 3 people have voted:
It seems iminaaa has switched from voting without posting to posting without voting.
It seems iminaaa has switched from voting without posting to posting without voting.
Yep. Going to wait a bit this time to see if there's someone else that would be more likely to be a wolf before jumping on the bandwagon.
I'm usually pretty good with logic... But not that good with using logic in social games.
shawnheyhey pulled the same thing in a game that I shared with him, if you can't be active then you shouldn't join the game. The last game I was in with solarsistem they were quite active...I'm not sure why she hasn't been active in this one.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Note: I didnt find the time to vote last round. At least I can say I didnt take part in killing a human.
As for this round I voted for Nick because he seems to jump fairly fast...as if he knew who he was shooting. Plus he's acted like this in other tbs that I was in, where he was a wolf.
As for this round I voted for Nick because he seems to jump fairly fast...as if he knew who he was shooting. Plus he's acted like this in other tbs that I was in, where he was a wolf.
criely, i always act like this, whether im human or wolf
I think i might change my vote to MattMan, Gizzer has good logic. But i'm still suspicious of soccerguy, cuz he's convinced i am a wolf, but has no real suspicion...and he was quick to make up his mind.
Before I talk about the game, I really like your icon grilledcheese.
I guess I dont really have any real suspicion on you grilledcheese, it really just seems like you arent acting like a human right now (I followed one of your other games).
I am just going to keep my vote for grilledcheese, if I am eaten which I doubt, but if I am, I would really look after grilledcheese being a werewolf. Look at previous games of his and you will see what I mean.
I guess I dont really have any real suspicion on you grilledcheese, it really just seems like you arent acting like a human right now (I followed one of your other games).
I am just going to keep my vote for grilledcheese, if I am eaten which I doubt, but if I am, I would really look after grilledcheese being a werewolf. Look at previous games of his and you will see what I mean.
why? theres no way mattman is gonna be shot this round.
Well I don't think Spice is a wolf, to be honest. So i'm going to vote for the person with the most suspision...soccerguy. And i've acted like this in all my games....human or wolf. But go ahead and vote for me if you wish
Good morning, players!
Not much happened over night, I see. The voting is still the same.
I notice that we've had 3 players say it's ok to shoot them:
After I listed him as a possible candidate for the last wolf to vote, soccerguy0428 wrote:
Likewise, bpkeller wrote:
And now grilledcheese, who was on Legal's list of suspects (along with Spice and bRIN) says:
I find that very interesting. Are they just saying that to appear innocent, all the while feeling safe because Spice has an obvious majority?
Of course, grilledcheese and soccerguy0428 are pointing at each other, which makes it unlikely that they are both sharks.
Not much happened over night, I see. The voting is still the same.
I notice that we've had 3 players say it's ok to shoot them:
After I listed him as a possible candidate for the last wolf to vote, soccerguy0428 wrote:
You can create a majority, on me, its a mistake, but there isnt anything I can do to prove it.
Likewise, bpkeller wrote:
And myself, hey, go ahead and vote for me if you want to. I don't care, it's one vote. Everyone can vote me out if they want to. Just don't get your hopes up.
And now grilledcheese, who was on Legal's list of suspects (along with Spice and bRIN) says:
And i've acted like this in all my games....human or wolf. But go ahead and vote for me if you wish
I find that very interesting. Are they just saying that to appear innocent, all the while feeling safe because Spice has an obvious majority?
Of course, grilledcheese and soccerguy0428 are pointing at each other, which makes it unlikely that they are both sharks.
soccerguy0428 wrote:
I was just re-reading this. I'm confused by the comma between majority and on me.
Is "on me" a slang way of saying "to me" or "I think" or something like that? So that, instead of suggesting that we create a majority of votes for him, he is saying he thinks it's wrong to create a majority?
You can create a majority, on me, its a mistake, but there isnt anything I can do to prove it.
I was just re-reading this. I'm confused by the comma between majority and on me.
Is "on me" a slang way of saying "to me" or "I think" or something like that? So that, instead of suggesting that we create a majority of votes for him, he is saying he thinks it's wrong to create a majority?
Well...I say everyone here is really smart by thinking up all these reasons
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
lol thank you happy hak, i speak for all of us when i say that means a lot
Okay now I've had too long to think and I'm changing my vote away from spice and I'm gonna vote for Nick...he was first to post and it was only minutes from the end of the round and because I'm beginning to believe Spice is a scapegoat for the wolves...SS spice. I hope people change their minds.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
nickmanning214 wrote:
np
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
lol thank you happy hak, i speak for all of us when i say that means a lot
np
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
Gizzer wrote:
I just put an extra comma in there, but yes it is saying that I think its wrong to create a majority on me because it will only hurt the humans.
soccerguy0428 wrote:
I was just re-reading this. I'm confused by the comma between majority and on me.
Is "on me" a slang way of saying "to me" or "I think" or something like that? So that, instead of suggesting that we create a majority of votes for him, he is saying he thinks it's wrong to create a majority?
You can create a majority, on me, its a mistake, but there isnt anything I can do to prove it.
I was just re-reading this. I'm confused by the comma between majority and on me.
Is "on me" a slang way of saying "to me" or "I think" or something like that? So that, instead of suggesting that we create a majority of votes for him, he is saying he thinks it's wrong to create a majority?
I just put an extra comma in there, but yes it is saying that I think its wrong to create a majority on me because it will only hurt the humans.
bRIN wrote:
I'm curious, who was the first to vote for Spice?
Not to cast attention to myself or anything, but I was the one that threw Spice's name into the mix, though I was the second person to vote for her. It's never easy to decide who to vote for or what the rationale is. Unfortunately I came on 51 minutes after night ended so I didn't get a look at the list of people online.
I'm curious, who was the first to vote for Spice?
there was one vote for spice when I came in,I thought it was nick, but I'm not sure now, and then I realized that legal had been eaten...so I went with the vote as well.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
i originally voted for hermione but that was a fish vote, so i changed it to spice because there was legitimate evidence against her.
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bRIN wrote:
Crazycriely wrote:
HermioneGranger wrote:
Which it's funny that soon afterwards he said:
nickmanning214 wrote:
Do people normally ask wolves for favors?
Either way, I believe I am switching my vote to nickmanning, since my zonaracer vote was kind of out there anyways.
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
there was one vote for spice when I came in,I thought it was nick, but I'm not sure now
Crazycriely wrote:
Plus [Nick's] acted like this in other tbs that I was in, where he was a wolf.
HermioneGranger wrote:
I'm voting for nick because he just seems a bit suspicious with all that talk about of course being human. It sounds sorta obvious.
Which it's funny that soon afterwards he said:
nickmanning214 wrote:
shawnheyhey sucks...one time he was the boss and it took forrevveerrr for him to post memos. Wolves, can you please eat that man?
Do people normally ask wolves for favors?
Either way, I believe I am switching my vote to nickmanning, since my zonaracer vote was kind of out there anyways.
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
okay if you want to believe all that "evidence"
how do you put multiple quotes in one post? for me it deletes it
Why is everyone voting for me anyway? I was NOT the first to vote for Spice. I was second. I act like this every game! Read the other transcripts! Do some research! I'm always suspicious! Spice is more suspicious! So is zonaracer and grilled cheese!
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how do you put multiple quotes in one post? for me it deletes it
Why is everyone voting for me anyway? I was NOT the first to vote for Spice. I was second. I act like this every game! Read the other transcripts! Do some research! I'm always suspicious! Spice is more suspicious! So is zonaracer and grilled cheese!
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nickmanning214 wrote:
Then, I'll ask you. Who was the first to vote for Spice?
I was NOT the first to vote for Spice. I was second.
Then, I'll ask you. Who was the first to vote for Spice?
Well actually I was the second to vote for Spice. I think your vote was already there...but like I said, I can't be 100% sure it was you. You may have been third to vote but I'm sure I was second.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
I think that nick was first too, but I am not sure either.
I have a really bad feeling that I will be eaten tonight by grilledcheese, if I am around next round, I will post the evidence that I found, but I am really doubting that I will be. If I am not around next round to help prove that grilledcheese is a wolf, please really reconsider him being a wolf.
I have a really bad feeling that I will be eaten tonight by grilledcheese, if I am around next round, I will post the evidence that I found, but I am really doubting that I will be. If I am not around next round to help prove that grilledcheese is a wolf, please really reconsider him being a wolf.
soccerguy0428 wrote:
If you have evidence, give it now. If you think you will be eaten tonight, that's all the more reason to share what you know now.
... if I am around next round, I will post the evidence that I found, but I am really doubting that I will be.
If you have evidence, give it now. If you think you will be eaten tonight, that's all the more reason to share what you know now.
nickmanning214 wrote:
The easiest way is to quote the first one, add what you want to say, then copy that text. Then quote the next passage. The previous text will be deleted, but you copied it, so just paste it back in the box. Continue as necessary.
Or you can copy and paste the parts you want, and manually add the quotes and the soandso said:
Hope that helps.
how do you put multiple quotes in one post? for me it deletes it
The easiest way is to quote the first one, add what you want to say, then copy that text. Then quote the next passage. The previous text will be deleted, but you copied it, so just paste it back in the box. Continue as necessary.
Or you can copy and paste the parts you want, and manually add the quotes and the soandso said:
Hope that helps.
I'll change my vote to Nick, too. He really is acting sus-pic-u-ous, so yeah. Sorry.
At 6:50 PM:
bRIN wrote:
Then at 9:49 PM that same day:
nickmanning214 wrote:
I think there are wolves like bRIN trying to create stories and accidently contradicting themselves. Spice was initially a bandwagon vote for me but now I truly believe bRIN is framing me to get people off of Spice, making them both wolves! The facts are right here! I was definitely not the first to vote for Spice, I don't think I was even second or third...all I truly remember is that I wasn't first yet there are people here who are like "oh yeah, im pretty sure it was nickmanning"
Edit: This would also make soccerguy a potential wolf, since he was part of Gizzer's list. He also went with this easily disproved story that I led the charge against Spice.
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bRIN wrote:
i'm gonna go with Spice. legal voted for her and now he's gone
Then at 9:49 PM that same day:
nickmanning214 wrote:
1. please everyone explain why we are suspicious
2. im not gonna double/triple post anymore so if i edit my posts a lot thats why
3. im fishvoting hermione granger...people always vote for me because i am intrinsically suspicious whether im wolf or not, and about 75% of the time those people are wolves when they give no explanation.
2. im not gonna double/triple post anymore so if i edit my posts a lot thats why
3. im fishvoting hermione granger...people always vote for me because i am intrinsically suspicious whether im wolf or not, and about 75% of the time those people are wolves when they give no explanation.
I think there are wolves like bRIN trying to create stories and accidently contradicting themselves. Spice was initially a bandwagon vote for me but now I truly believe bRIN is framing me to get people off of Spice, making them both wolves! The facts are right here! I was definitely not the first to vote for Spice, I don't think I was even second or third...all I truly remember is that I wasn't first yet there are people here who are like "oh yeah, im pretty sure it was nickmanning"
Edit: This would also make soccerguy a potential wolf, since he was part of Gizzer's list. He also went with this easily disproved story that I led the charge against Spice.
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Nick, did you vote for Spice before voting for Hermione, and then switch back?
I dont think so...
Edit: Well maybe my proof isn't complete proof, but it's strong evidence and I am positive that I wasn't the first to vote for Spice, and im 90% sure I voted for Spice after I voted for Hermione
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Edit: Well maybe my proof isn't complete proof, but it's strong evidence and I am positive that I wasn't the first to vote for Spice, and im 90% sure I voted for Spice after I voted for Hermione
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Nick, first you said you were second. Then you said you didn't think you were even second or third. Which is it?
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
Why is everyone voting for me anyway? I was NOT the first to vote for Spice. I was second.
I was definitely not the first to vote for Spice, I don't think I was even second or third...
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
I thought I was second then I second guessed myself, all I remember is seeing a vote for Spice before I even voted for Hermione...that's what triggered me to say tht
Early in the round, nickmanning214 wrote:
And you did vote for Hermione. I saw your vote for Hermione when I logged on in the morning. And I saw you switch to Spice.
After bRIN mentioned that there used to be a vote for Hermione, nickmanning214 wrote:
When I asked a second time who voted first for Spice, and bRIN and soccerguy0428 said they thought it was nick (but weren't sure), nickmanning214 wrote:
I asked for confirmation then:
Nick's response:
Well, Nick, you seem to be the one making the errors here. It's bad enough if people aren't being observant enough to know who was the first to vote for Spice. Now you want me to believe that you don't remember how you voted?
nickmanning214 wrote:
You expect people to believe that bRIN is a wolf who started a voting frenzy on her fellow wolf Spice, then waited more than a day to change her mind and vote for you to save Spice?!?!
That makes no sense. Spice might be a wolf. bRIN might be a wolf. But not both together.
I warned you about making sense, nick. Annoying I can put up with. But not distorting the facts. I believe you are a wolf, so I will vote for you now.
im fishvoting hermione granger...
And you did vote for Hermione. I saw your vote for Hermione when I logged on in the morning. And I saw you switch to Spice.
After bRIN mentioned that there used to be a vote for Hermione, nickmanning214 wrote:
i originally voted for hermione but that was a fish vote, so i changed it to spice because there was legitimate evidence against her.
When I asked a second time who voted first for Spice, and bRIN and soccerguy0428 said they thought it was nick (but weren't sure), nickmanning214 wrote:
I was NOT the first to vote for Spice. I was second.
I asked for confirmation then:
Nick, did you vote for Spice before voting for Hermione, and then switch back?
Nick's response:
I dont think so...
Edit: Well maybe my proof isn't complete proof, but it's strong evidence and I am positive that I wasn't the first to vote for Spice, and im 90% sure I voted for Spice after I voted for Hermione
Edit: Well maybe my proof isn't complete proof, but it's strong evidence and I am positive that I wasn't the first to vote for Spice, and im 90% sure I voted for Spice after I voted for Hermione
Well, Nick, you seem to be the one making the errors here. It's bad enough if people aren't being observant enough to know who was the first to vote for Spice. Now you want me to believe that you don't remember how you voted?
nickmanning214 wrote:
I think there are wolves like bRIN trying to create stories and accidently contradicting themselves. Spice was initially a bandwagon vote for me but now I truly believe bRIN is framing me to get people off of Spice, making them both wolves! The facts are right here!
You expect people to believe that bRIN is a wolf who started a voting frenzy on her fellow wolf Spice, then waited more than a day to change her mind and vote for you to save Spice?!?!
That makes no sense. Spice might be a wolf. bRIN might be a wolf. But not both together.
I warned you about making sense, nick. Annoying I can put up with. But not distorting the facts. I believe you are a wolf, so I will vote for you now.
Now i'm even MORE suspicious of soccerguy. Hes trying to get everyone to believe i am a wolf....but he really has no evidence...probably trying to drift my suspicion of him. i'm staying with my vote
With the recent switches, the vote is now:
7 for nickmanning
6 for Spice
1 for grilledcheese
1 for soccerguy
(3 votes still not cast)
7 for nickmanning
6 for Spice
1 for grilledcheese
1 for soccerguy
(3 votes still not cast)
gizzer, I have seen many instances of wolves initiating campains against other wolves and revoking it to make people think that only one of them can be a wolf.
Once I was a wolf with coolcow something and he said something like "nickmanning is obviously a wolf im voting for him" completely out of the blue, causing everyone to vote me off, when i had barely said a word.
If you are going to believe that every wolf is only going to target other humans, then the real wolves will be obvious to spot, but that isn't the case. Usually the wolves end up winning. And it's because of people like you who try to find these alliances. This wont help! And if I get shot I still want to win, so please...dont be afriad to go after people in different alliances.
Besides, my poor logic does not make me a wolf. A human could just as easily make that error when they are about to be shot.
There is no reason to think I am a wolf. Sorry I "act suspicious" (whatever that means).
Also notice how this sudden surge of nickmanning accusations comes with no defense. You'd think if I was a wolf there would be other wolves on my side when I can easily be saved, since i am only losing by one vote and I was votes ahead before.
Once I was a wolf with coolcow something and he said something like "nickmanning is obviously a wolf im voting for him" completely out of the blue, causing everyone to vote me off, when i had barely said a word.
If you are going to believe that every wolf is only going to target other humans, then the real wolves will be obvious to spot, but that isn't the case. Usually the wolves end up winning. And it's because of people like you who try to find these alliances. This wont help! And if I get shot I still want to win, so please...dont be afriad to go after people in different alliances.
Besides, my poor logic does not make me a wolf. A human could just as easily make that error when they are about to be shot.
There is no reason to think I am a wolf. Sorry I "act suspicious" (whatever that means).
Also notice how this sudden surge of nickmanning accusations comes with no defense. You'd think if I was a wolf there would be other wolves on my side when I can easily be saved, since i am only losing by one vote and I was votes ahead before.
nickmanning214 wrote:
Name the game.
nickmanning214 wrote:
I don't try to find alliances. I said that your theory made no sense, and you expect people to believe you don't remember how you voted. You accuse bRIN of not getting her story straight, when it's yours that is all over the place.
nickmanning214 wrote:
That's true.
nickmanning214:
There are enough reasons. And you said yourself that you play to be suspicious and annoying. Don't bother apologizing for it.
nickmanning214 wrote:
Wolves are under no obligation to save other wolves when they are acting like you are. Besides, there are very few players on-line to even try to save you. Those who are have already voted for someone else, what else can they do to save you that won't endanger themselves?
gizzer, I have seen many instances of wolves initiating campains against other wolves and revoking it to make people think that only one of them can be a wolf.
Once I was a wolf with coolcow something and he said something like "nickmanning is obviously a wolf im voting for him" completely out of the blue, causing everyone to vote me off, when i had barely said a word.
Once I was a wolf with coolcow something and he said something like "nickmanning is obviously a wolf im voting for him" completely out of the blue, causing everyone to vote me off, when i had barely said a word.
Name the game.
nickmanning214 wrote:
If you are going to believe that every wolf is only going to target other humans, then the real wolves will be obvious to spot, but that isn't the case. Usually the wolves end up winning. And it's because of people like you who try to find these alliances. This wont help! And if I get shot I still want to win, so please...dont be afriad to go after people in different alliances.
I don't try to find alliances. I said that your theory made no sense, and you expect people to believe you don't remember how you voted. You accuse bRIN of not getting her story straight, when it's yours that is all over the place.
nickmanning214 wrote:
Besides, my poor logic does not make me a wolf. A human could just as easily make that error when they are about to be shot.
That's true.
nickmanning214:
There is no reason to think I am a wolf. Sorry I "act suspicious" (whatever that means).
There are enough reasons. And you said yourself that you play to be suspicious and annoying. Don't bother apologizing for it.
nickmanning214 wrote:
Also notice how this sudden surge of nickmanning accusations comes with no defense. You'd think if I was a wolf there would be other wolves on my side when I can easily be saved, since i am only losing by one vote and I was votes ahead before.
Wolves are under no obligation to save other wolves when they are acting like you are. Besides, there are very few players on-line to even try to save you. Those who are have already voted for someone else, what else can they do to save you that won't endanger themselves?
Also notice how this sudden surge of nickmanning accusations comes with no defense. You'd think if I was a wolf there would be other wolves on my side when I can easily be saved, since i am only losing by one vote and I was votes ahead before.
But "if you are going to believe that every wolf is only going to target other humans, then the real wolves will be obvious to spot, but that isn't the case."
If wolves back you up then we'll know they're wolves. Not know, but we can assume, and this game is pretty much just assumptions.
You said it yourself, nick. You're suspicious. They probably don't want to be "allied" with you.
Down on the inside, pretty on the outside. Turn it around! Can we turn it around? Try to make a comeback with no where to start from now. But it's looking up.
I dont know the game number, it was over 10 games ago. I'm not trying to be suspicious (or annoying ), I just said people tend to find me suspicious every game. I just enjoy putting my input in, even if I am not 100% positive. Sometimes people appreciate how I'm here posting frequently. My last game was great, you should check it out. It was moderated by jpaw.
Well, I guess I'm done. If anyone voting for Spice wants to change their vote, go ahead. I don't blame anyone for finding me suspicious. I say trust Gizzer (even though he's wrong) and don't trust bRIN, Spice, grilled cheese, zonracer, or soccerguy. I wouldnt be surprised if at least 4 of the wolves are within those 5 people and whoever the other one is is beyond me.
good game guys, ill rate it 4 stars
---This message was edited on 2007-10-21 16:01:21---
Well, I guess I'm done. If anyone voting for Spice wants to change their vote, go ahead. I don't blame anyone for finding me suspicious. I say trust Gizzer (even though he's wrong) and don't trust bRIN, Spice, grilled cheese, zonracer, or soccerguy. I wouldnt be surprised if at least 4 of the wolves are within those 5 people and whoever the other one is is beyond me.
good game guys, ill rate it 4 stars
---This message was edited on 2007-10-21 16:01:21---
nickmanning214 wrote:
Then, name another of the "many" games in which a wolf led the charge on another wolf for no reason whatsoever.
nickmanning214 wrote:
nickmanning214 wrote (in the Like my Limerick? topic):
'Nuff said.
nickmanning214 wrote:
1) I am female.
2) There are only 4 wolves.
3) I will watch everyone.
I dont know the game number, it was over 10 games ago.
Then, name another of the "many" games in which a wolf led the charge on another wolf for no reason whatsoever.
nickmanning214 wrote:
I'm not trying to be suspicious (or annoying )...
nickmanning214 wrote (in the Like my Limerick? topic):
Thanks for all the comments, I guess I'll stick to my day job, annoying everyone in the werewolf game.
'Nuff said.
nickmanning214 wrote:
I say trust Gizzer (even though he's wrong) and don't trust bRIN, Spice, grilled cheese, zonracer, or soccerguy. I wouldnt be surprised if at least 4 of the wolves are within those 5 people and whoever the other one is is beyond me.
1) I am female.
2) There are only 4 wolves.
3) I will watch everyone.
I dont specifically try to annoy people in the werewolf game. I wasn't being literal.
And I'm 100% sure there are five wolves.
---This message was edited on 2007-10-21 16:33:52---
And I'm 100% sure there are five wolves.
---This message was edited on 2007-10-21 16:33:52---
The ratio of wolves to players is approximately 1 in 5.
10 players = 2 wolves
15 players = 3 wolves
20 players = 4 wolves
If you are 100% sure there are more than the usual number of wolves, you must be one.
10 players = 2 wolves
15 players = 3 wolves
20 players = 4 wolves
If you are 100% sure there are more than the usual number of wolves, you must be one.
youre right except for 15 and 20.
15=4 wolves
20=5 wolves
your number is too few, it makes no sense
15=4 wolves
20=5 wolves
your number is too few, it makes no sense
My number comes from the rules and can be verified by checking any of the recently completed games with 20 players.
I thought there was 1 wolf for every 4 people...wouldn't that make it 5? I dunno. I'll just trust gizmo
grilledcheese wrote:
From the rules:
grilledcheese wrote:
Don't ever trust anyone who says something that can't be backed up. Not even me.
I thought there was 1 wolf for every 4 people...wouldn't that make it 5?
From the rules:
Identities are distributed randomly at the start of the game. There will be roughly 4 Humans for every 1 Werewolf.
grilledcheese wrote:
I dunno. I'll just trust gizmo
Don't ever trust anyone who says something that can't be backed up. Not even me.
yeah she was right. im just all over the place. too much braingle. I guess I'll go play click the button
OK, less than 1 hour left in this very long, very eventful, and very interesting day.
Still no vote from iminaaa.
No vote and no post from Shawnheyhey123 in 2 days, although he's been on-line both days.
And solarsistim321 is still off-line, for 3 days now.
Still no vote from iminaaa.
No vote and no post from Shawnheyhey123 in 2 days, although he's been on-line both days.
And solarsistim321 is still off-line, for 3 days now.
Hey Gizzer, if you vote for Spice, grilledcheese will give you 20 bucks.
Just over 30 minutes left
(Sidenote)PS: I do like the activity of 20 people...but its almost a little too much for me. I think i perfer 15
Added explaination: I cant read all that! *looks at Gizz*
---This message was edited on 2007-10-21 17:16:26---
(Sidenote)PS: I do like the activity of 20 people...but its almost a little too much for me. I think i perfer 15
Added explaination: I cant read all that! *looks at Gizz*
---This message was edited on 2007-10-21 17:16:26---
criely, vote for spice and ill post half as much i swear
---This message was edited on 2007-10-21 17:29:07---
---This message was edited on 2007-10-21 17:29:07---
Post from nickmanning214 deleted on 2007-10-21 17:41:59.
Then what is the status of the player you asked about in the first round vote?
I guess he changed his mind about saying he is the seer.
i was just kidding im not the seer, i deleted that, i give up
I hope the rest of the game is as interesting as this round.
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