The Werewolf Game
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thank you my lovely dan
habs- so sorry to see you leave
your seer is still here
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
habs- so sorry to see you leave
your seer is still here
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
It's kind of getting interesting that none of the Bright voters were eaten yet (Cab/Cat) though the seer is still alive so that could be the reason.....HABS eating is certainly a surprise in a way, not that she was suspect but not sure how well it relates to last round.....the wolf effort seems to be a bit disjointed....SPV....for now.......
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
My vote is a SPV also
Might change,
might not..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Might change,
might not..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
I'm surprised I'm still around after little to no effort on my part. My bad for this, been buried in books past few days.
I might have to start taking this game a bit more seriously looks like the wolves are taking us for a ride.
I'm the seer. Jayo is a wolf, scrub is human.
AND SMITHY KNOWS THIS
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I might have to start taking this game a bit more seriously looks like the wolves are taking us for a ride.
I'm the seer. Jayo is a wolf, scrub is human.
AND SMITHY KNOWS THIS
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Cool beans.....will wait till others post but will def at the very least switch off of Sky
as Cab is not typically one to bus in Rd1 (though its debatable a first SPV on a person is a bussing at all) I don't suspect her as of now, that leaves
in my mind Bradon/Jem as primary two, Cat voting Bright helps him but he was in hot water himself so it makes things more unclear. Celt doesnt seem like a wolf but he's by no means clear
will see what happens next round
just went back and checked and Bright actually did counter vote Cat in Rd1 (i thought she off voted) that makes Cat more human because Bright seems like she might balk at "garanteeing" a wolf shoot by voting her partner when she could still hold out hope that her logging in would move votes around....so Bradon/Jem are best bets going forward imo...and Jeminy would explain the Harry eating....so Jeminy you might want to get that Bug Spray ready, Im coming for you next
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
as Cab is not typically one to bus in Rd1 (though its debatable a first SPV on a person is a bussing at all) I don't suspect her as of now, that leaves
in my mind Bradon/Jem as primary two, Cat voting Bright helps him but he was in hot water himself so it makes things more unclear. Celt doesnt seem like a wolf but he's by no means clear
will see what happens next round
just went back and checked and Bright actually did counter vote Cat in Rd1 (i thought she off voted) that makes Cat more human because Bright seems like she might balk at "garanteeing" a wolf shoot by voting her partner when she could still hold out hope that her logging in would move votes around....so Bradon/Jem are best bets going forward imo...and Jeminy would explain the Harry eating....so Jeminy you might want to get that Bug Spray ready, Im coming for you next
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Skybet has seemed wolfish to me since he was involved in a competing mini-majority R1. The very round that we hit a wolf! I was surprised that the wolves ate HP since he was in the same majority. But he must have done something seerish.
I'm not sure that I'm buying Skybet as seer. Tho I will take my vote off him for the moment. Jayo seems human this game, so I would be doubly off if that were true.
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
I'm not sure that I'm buying Skybet as seer. Tho I will take my vote off him for the moment. Jayo seems human this game, so I would be doubly off if that were true.
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Skybet wrote:
Well I'm one of at least 3 that know I am human
If Sky isn't a wolf then his claim makes no sense unless he is desperate to avoid being shot and has taken a (bad) shot in the dark
I'll SPV for the moment to help prevent round ending before all have voted, but taking out Sky is certainly on the cards
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I'm surprised I'm still around after little to no effort on my part. My bad for this, been buried in books past few days.
I might have to start taking this game a bit more seriously looks like the wolves are taking us for a ride.
I'm the seer. Jayo is a wolf, scrub is human.
AND SMITHY KNOWS THIS
I might have to start taking this game a bit more seriously looks like the wolves are taking us for a ride.
I'm the seer. Jayo is a wolf, scrub is human.
AND SMITHY KNOWS THIS
Well I'm one of at least 3 that know I am human
If Sky isn't a wolf then his claim makes no sense unless he is desperate to avoid being shot and has taken a (bad) shot in the dark
I'll SPV for the moment to help prevent round ending before all have voted, but taking out Sky is certainly on the cards
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Cab, if you have your doubts, why then vote Sky, at least vote a neutral party as this is seriously unprecedented move for Sky to throw himself away if he is a wolf. If Sky is "fake claiming" very unlikely, but I suppose possible, the wolves can only win in Round 7, Sky has given himself away and the real seer, if he has a single wolf, ends the game....
caberet voted for Skybet
catmandon voted for Skybet
Jayo voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for jeminy
if the alternative, Sky is a fake claiming human, it is simply a selfish blunder from my perspective
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
caberet voted for Skybet
catmandon voted for Skybet
Jayo voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for jeminy
if the alternative, Sky is a fake claiming human, it is simply a selfish blunder from my perspective
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Sky's claim would be more credible to me if he would explain the Smithy comment. Is that supposed to mean something? I think I'd also like to hear from Deb that our Seer is still with us before I jump to any conclusions.
Meanwhile I'll hold my vote for a while until we know.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Meanwhile I'll hold my vote for a while until we know.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
its a harmless inside joke, a Braingle "meme" if you will
it can be safely disregarded
and on that note, which you have reminded me, Sky's claim is double foolhardy considering Deb has yet to reveal the seer's status....though if you are playing a bold fake claim, you might as well double down with it I guess
I've been watching Jeminy's name tick around down there for a little while now, and I've done it with purpose Humans always have a reaction to a seer claim, even if they don't know how best to handle it, wolves need a lot of time to think over how they will respond....hence Jeminy's delayed response ??
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
it can be safely disregarded
and on that note, which you have reminded me, Sky's claim is double foolhardy considering Deb has yet to reveal the seer's status....though if you are playing a bold fake claim, you might as well double down with it I guess
I've been watching Jeminy's name tick around down there for a little while now, and I've done it with purpose Humans always have a reaction to a seer claim, even if they don't know how best to handle it, wolves need a lot of time to think over how they will respond....hence Jeminy's delayed response ??
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I agree that the claim is probably true. I'm willing to go for Jayo. No matter what, we get at least one wolf in the next two rounds.
I'm just going to list my thoughts of people. It'll help me, if no one else. This is assuming Jayo is a wolf.
bradon - In the middle. She did vote HABS with Jayo. It's only small but it's better than no opinions
cab - I don't think a wolf would defend a seered wolf.
cat - He did vote for Days but he sort of had to. So he's in the balance.
celt - No comment
Jayo - Wolf
jeminy - I'm going to say human no matter what here.
scrub - Apparently human.
Sky - Seer
Spid - Leaning human. I reckon he could of relied on Days to show up instead of going for her.
And Spid, I'm fairly surprised no one actually mentioned that last game when I was a wolf. If anything, I usually go quicker when I'm a wolf. Just blame it on me being socially awkward, wanting to get everything right -even more so when forming opinions on people- so I don't end up looking stupid. It happens most games so I wouldn't read anything into it. If you do, at least you can take it into account next time.
In summary, I'm voting Jayo.
I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
I'm just going to list my thoughts of people. It'll help me, if no one else. This is assuming Jayo is a wolf.
bradon - In the middle. She did vote HABS with Jayo. It's only small but it's better than no opinions
cab - I don't think a wolf would defend a seered wolf.
cat - He did vote for Days but he sort of had to. So he's in the balance.
celt - No comment
Jayo - Wolf
jeminy - I'm going to say human no matter what here.
scrub - Apparently human.
Sky - Seer
Spid - Leaning human. I reckon he could of relied on Days to show up instead of going for her.
And Spid, I'm fairly surprised no one actually mentioned that last game when I was a wolf. If anything, I usually go quicker when I'm a wolf. Just blame it on me being socially awkward, wanting to get everything right -even more so when forming opinions on people- so I don't end up looking stupid. It happens most games so I wouldn't read anything into it. If you do, at least you can take it into account next time.
In summary, I'm voting Jayo.
I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
Yeah I have Cab as nearly cleared, if Sky is a wolf faking, Cab is almost certainly not his partner, and if Sky is the real seer I doubt Cab would put herself in this position. A wolf has a few choices here, immediately "sell out" his partner. Ie Jeminy if Jayo is indeed a wolf, or hedge, remain skeptical but flexible enough to switch to either Jayo or Sky as needed. If Sky is fake seering (assuming as wolf of course) his partner would almost never immeadeatly "believe" him. His partner would say hmmmmmm I'm skeptical but not cast too much doubt without reason. (The ideal outcome for the wolf partner is to get the claimed human (Jayo in this case) shot, but without leading the charge...i.e. "Sky duped all of us not just me) and on the same token, Jayo's partner would probly sit tight lipped and wait for it to be obvious that Jayo's jig is up before commiting... So that's why when all's said and done I still have Jem/Bradon as top 2....
a lot of words, sorry I'm in an analytical mood today
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
a lot of words, sorry I'm in an analytical mood today
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
IF Sky isn't a wolf, then assuming I somehow get shot with the false claim, then he is toast next round which would be 2 spectacular rounds for the wolves. In no way is making a false claim THIS early in the game a good call, must lynch I would appreciate, but this is foolish
Switching to Sky now before the madness sets in and people buy his false claim
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Switching to Sky now before the madness sets in and people buy his false claim
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
just forcing my hand here
caberet voted for Skybet
catmandon voted for Skybet
Jayo voted for Skybet
jeminy voted for Jayo
Skybet voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for Jayo
more like hoping for the best or hope from your partner
I dont know what would be madness about it, the seer was HABS, or is Scrub or Celt...odds favor you being a wolf
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
caberet voted for Skybet
catmandon voted for Skybet
Jayo voted for Skybet
jeminy voted for Jayo
Skybet voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for Jayo
more like hoping for the best or hope from your partner
I dont know what would be madness about it, the seer was HABS, or is Scrub or Celt...odds favor you being a wolf
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
bradon182001 wrote:
If you're in the regs it should mean something. Perhaps a little subtle but yes, it has a meaning.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Sky's claim would be more credible to me if he would explain the Smithy comment.
If you're in the regs it should mean something. Perhaps a little subtle but yes, it has a meaning.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I knew you would change your vote Spid tsk tsk
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Yes you're right Jayo, being a wolf and false claiming seer at the stage we are at in this game would be foolish.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
So, when I flip human, what is your strategy Sky?? And Spid, what would be yours??
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Don't let this round end early please.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Shoot sky and wait for the seer, good reminder, Ill take my vote away from you so that a misguided human doesnt potentially end it early, thanks
what evidence is there that I should NOT follow Sky's claim anyway If another seer steps up surely Ill reevaluate but until then this is not really a tough voting decision
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
what evidence is there that I should NOT follow Sky's claim anyway If another seer steps up surely Ill reevaluate but until then this is not really a tough voting decision
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The_Spider wrote:
So...you BELIEVE Sky is telling the truth?
Fair enough if you honestly believe this, but he isn't.
The_Spider wrote:
minorly queasy about Jayo's "we may even be on the same team" comment.......I can explain later if I have to more articulately, but just seems a little indirect way of seeming innocent....Ive learned im almost always wrong about these things though
Jayo wrote:
Quite likely to be on the same team Spid, (as I'm flying blind) don't be looking to use that as a reason to stencil my name on a bullet at a later round
I see you typed a disclaimer about being wrong though
Edit: Didn't want to double post
Tying things up between Sky and Cross, just a hunch
From the last round there Spid, called it last round both about Sky and about you angling to get me shot. I had a feeling you would . Turns out me and Cross were on the same time, and my hunch on Sky was bang on. Your call
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Shoot sky and wait for the seer, good reminder, Ill take my vote away from you so that a misguided human doesnt potentially end it early, thanks
what evidence is there that I should NOT follow Sky's claim anyway If another seer steps up surely Ill reevaluate but until then this is not really a tough voting decision
what evidence is there that I should NOT follow Sky's claim anyway If another seer steps up surely Ill reevaluate but until then this is not really a tough voting decision
So...you BELIEVE Sky is telling the truth?
Fair enough if you honestly believe this, but he isn't.
The_Spider wrote:
minorly queasy about Jayo's "we may even be on the same team" comment.......I can explain later if I have to more articulately, but just seems a little indirect way of seeming innocent....Ive learned im almost always wrong about these things though
Jayo wrote:
Quite likely to be on the same team Spid, (as I'm flying blind) don't be looking to use that as a reason to stencil my name on a bullet at a later round
I see you typed a disclaimer about being wrong though
Edit: Didn't want to double post
Tying things up between Sky and Cross, just a hunch
From the last round there Spid, called it last round both about Sky and about you angling to get me shot. I had a feeling you would . Turns out me and Cross were on the same time, and my hunch on Sky was bang on. Your call
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
You said it yourself, fake claiming at this stage is extremely stupid, ergo, if Sky is fake claiming I would have to believe he is being extremely stupid, which I have never known him to be. (If he is doing it as a human he's kind of just being a d!ck). I elected to hold off voting either of you until everyone posted.....I made a rash reaction by voting you earlier to tie it but have since corrected it. If you had an unopposed seer claim (i,e, you were in my shoes, you would obviously be voting you) If Celt or Scrubb (or HABS via Deb) reveals themselves to be the seer certainly I will reconsider, but your offensive against me is clearly quite desperate and quite incongruent with how you know any human would treat a as of yet UNOPPOSED seer claim
Sky and I is easily the least likely wolf combo now other than Sky/Jayo I know this is all desperation bluster but I'm having fun keeping the back and forth going at any rate
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Sky and I is easily the least likely wolf combo now other than Sky/Jayo I know this is all desperation bluster but I'm having fun keeping the back and forth going at any rate
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Yeah, I had considered this Spid, and the angle you alluded to crossed my mind but I didn't type it for a good reason.
I wanted to see if someone would point out that you and Sky couldn't possibly be a team, but of course it's not impossible.
You mentioned before that if the Seer has pegged a wolf then the false claim is essentially a game over play, couldn't agree more.
The Seer claim isn't unopposed I am opposing it
Trust me on this one Spid if you can
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I wanted to see if someone would point out that you and Sky couldn't possibly be a team, but of course it's not impossible.
You mentioned before that if the Seer has pegged a wolf then the false claim is essentially a game over play, couldn't agree more.
The Seer claim isn't unopposed I am opposing it
Trust me on this one Spid if you can
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
this is getting good
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Well that leaves Celt and Scrubb to directly oppose the claim......its possible they just choose to remain silent and see how things play out, but unless one of them rescues you Jayo you get my vote. If Sky is a (mere) human than he is responsible for whatever disaster may unfold...
anyone who votes to kill Sky now is one of two things
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
anyone who votes to kill Sky now is one of two things
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Thanks Deb, now we know that neither HABS nor CW were the Seer. What we have to decide is if Sky is the Seer. We still haven't heard from Scrub or Celt, so I suppose it's possible one of them will come forward with a claim, but only time will tell. I can, however, assure you I am not. So, the fact that Jayo is opposing Sky's claim and asking for trust rings true, at least to me, but then I tend to read things into what is said or rather what isn't said. I also keep going back to the Smithy remark, and if it is an inside joke ( Braingle meme as Spider says,) and if it "has a meaning" as Sky says, then fill us in. I am in the Regs group, btw, so I must have been absent that day. Anyhow, the whole thing sounds - to me at least- like a message of some sort being passed to another. Wolves have no TB, so could it be a communication of some sort? IDK. At this point I think I have to take Jayo at his word and trust him. Voting Sky.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
your going to vote to kill an uncontested (of course Jayo will contest ) seer claimer outright without waiting for others??
this would be a very curious decision (to say the least) unless you are a wolf??
wait I miscalculated, it takes 5 to kill.....still.....puzzling decision
the Smithy thing is still simply an inside joke, whatever Sky is alluding to is not at all helping matters, I don't know why he tried to "justify it", it refers to a quote some player....jjputz i think....made regarding smithy knowing some dubious or outright false 'fact' about the way the computer selects who it kills in a tie......it was a bunch of wrong statements and then
AND SMITHY KNOWS THIS!
we ran it into the ground in chat for awhile, but those days are long ago..still not much more to it than that...not sure what Sky means if anything by using it other than just out of jest
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
this would be a very curious decision (to say the least) unless you are a wolf??
wait I miscalculated, it takes 5 to kill.....still.....puzzling decision
the Smithy thing is still simply an inside joke, whatever Sky is alluding to is not at all helping matters, I don't know why he tried to "justify it", it refers to a quote some player....jjputz i think....made regarding smithy knowing some dubious or outright false 'fact' about the way the computer selects who it kills in a tie......it was a bunch of wrong statements and then
AND SMITHY KNOWS THIS!
we ran it into the ground in chat for awhile, but those days are long ago..still not much more to it than that...not sure what Sky means if anything by using it other than just out of jest
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I am not the seer. I don't see a reason why Sky would in fact lie about being the seer, but I don't want to vote Jayo in case two more come on to flip the majority and Jayo turns out to be human. I'll be voting neutral as well, but. I definitely want to see how the round plays out.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
it's just bad play to vote to kill someone who claims seer when no one steps up and counterclaims.....it may be defensible to shoot a 3rd party, but there is no defense to shooting a seer claim at this junction....I will be voting Jayo unless Scrub has some interesting news
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
It's not a bad play to shoot Sky, that's your complete reluctance to accept the Seer claim is false.
The reason I am sure Sky is not the Seer is due to the fact that I was dealt a Human card at the start of this game, simple as that. The two wolves also know that Sky isn't Seer due to his incorrect divination. Now, if Sky is a wolf the minimum number of people who know the claim is false is 4. If Sky is human, at least 5 know he is lying.
Now, are you Sky's partner and has this been an all or nothing play??
Sky has Been extremely quiet despite being in the majority, gee I wonder why?
Spider is doing all the talking for him
The ONLY reason for you to not realize that there is a majority on Sky for a reason is that you are a wolf. Well the only reasonable explanation anyway, if you are human (smh) then well I don't know
Why are you waiting to switch your vote (yet again) if you believe Sky?
It can't be to protect the Seer if you believe him
Read through my posts, nothing to hide and I did try to get Sky shot last round, based on my 'hunch'
And to reiterate, I knew you would try to get me shot
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
The reason I am sure Sky is not the Seer is due to the fact that I was dealt a Human card at the start of this game, simple as that. The two wolves also know that Sky isn't Seer due to his incorrect divination. Now, if Sky is a wolf the minimum number of people who know the claim is false is 4. If Sky is human, at least 5 know he is lying.
Now, are you Sky's partner and has this been an all or nothing play??
Sky has Been extremely quiet despite being in the majority, gee I wonder why?
Spider is doing all the talking for him
The ONLY reason for you to not realize that there is a majority on Sky for a reason is that you are a wolf. Well the only reasonable explanation anyway, if you are human (smh) then well I don't know
Why are you waiting to switch your vote (yet again) if you believe Sky?
It can't be to protect the Seer if you believe him
Read through my posts, nothing to hide and I did try to get Sky shot last round, based on my 'hunch'
And to reiterate, I knew you would try to get me shot
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No, its OBJECTIVELY bad for a human to shoot Sky here (with you being the exception) If there was another player claiming seer it would be a different story.
There is NO UPSIDE to shooting the only person claiming to be seer this early, NONE. In any case Sky will be shot by the end of next round, on the other hand, if Sky is the seer, we do the wolves the ULTIMATE favor, shoot the seer for them and then they eat the clear.
There are permutations where in the short term shooting sky might work out, but these are like hitting an 18 in blackjack and pulling a 2. They work every once in a blue moon but are OBJECTIVELY bad moves.....
Your post reeks of desperation anyway, cant blame you but its not helping you
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
There is NO UPSIDE to shooting the only person claiming to be seer this early, NONE. In any case Sky will be shot by the end of next round, on the other hand, if Sky is the seer, we do the wolves the ULTIMATE favor, shoot the seer for them and then they eat the clear.
There are permutations where in the short term shooting sky might work out, but these are like hitting an 18 in blackjack and pulling a 2. They work every once in a blue moon but are OBJECTIVELY bad moves.....
Your post reeks of desperation anyway, cant blame you but its not helping you
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
No my dear Spider, the only desperation is on your part!
I've quite calmly and reasonably explained my reasonings, you've got this one wrong and regardless of your role I think you know it!
But, carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters
We are not so near must lunch, if we were then I'd be more concerned by your persistence, but as has already and patiently been explained to you, enough people here can see the truth.
Sky has falsely claimed Seer, to save himself, but a false claim is what it is.
He had already 3 votes coming his way, possibly more
It's round 4, Sky is lying. I'm telling you this (again) now in case it doesn't become apparent until round 5
The lie is obvious, as obvious as you blinkered take on proceedings.
Why should the real Seer come forward? I wouldn't either, not unless it LYLO
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I got time Ill rebut all this in epic fashion soon
The basic facts of the case...ONE person, ONE, SINGULAR...has claimed seer that means one of the following,
A) That person is seer
B) That person is NOT seer but the real seer has not yet logged on or seen Sky's claim (Scrubb i.e.)
C) The seer has seen the claim but has chosen to remain silent
None of this applies to you as you either know Sky is false claiming or are a wolf and thus has to do whatever you can to survive.
You have yet to explained why shooting Sky is even a plausible idea for anyone but yourself (or a potential quiet seer). You have alluded to all the votes on Sky as evidence of people knowing Sky is lying, this easily falls flat on its face due to the simple following:
The votes
Jayo: Obvious and carries no weight as to Sky's true ID
Cat: Voted before Sky's seer claim
Cab: Intended to take vote off Sky (seems like a mistake) but definitly did not commit to a vote on Sky
Bradon: Don't know, fixated, rather suspiciously on an inside joke, as if Sky cheating is a legit concern, could be a wolf partner, has shot seers before against advice.
This is easy to pick apart, and either your an intellectually dishonest or lazy human or your a wolf and thus didnt make the simple connection
Sky "being quiet despite being in a majority" does not even qualify as a point, one could just as easily say, Jayo is quite frantic, dare I use the forbidden word, "defensive" for being in a majority. Neither one is an objective argument as wolves in majorities come in all levels of quiet and loud.
As for "why would the real seer come forward" well he doesnt have to. If he has another wolf for sure he should though, but if he doesnt only a fool would automatically assume Sky is lying. Again you are excepted.
This is important so I will bold it
In the absecense of a competing seer claim, it is FOOLISH to shoot the lone seer claim, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY!!! this early as the wolves are FORCED to clarify the seer situation for us. If Sky is a seer, we needlessly shoot him over what, a vague self serving hunch. FOOLISH! If Sky is not the seer, the wolves will leave him alive and we shoot him next round. If you are seer you should be claiming as your life is on the line so you are not. meaning by shooting you, worst case we shoot a human this round in you and a wolf next round in sky. If we do the inverse, WORST CASE IS WE SHOOT THE GOD D@MN SEER!! THERE IS NO UPSIDE TO SHOOTING SKY
we can shoot a 3rd part (celt or Jem is good) but shooting SKY IS ABSOLUTE NONSENSE
As for desperation, you keep cobbling together theory after theory about how suspicious i am and how me and Sky must be partners when before it was obvious we were "least likely" to be partners. Going on the offensive is a standard tactic of the accused. Attack attack attack, your desperation is belied by the fact that so many of your little pieces seem to be falling into place, nothing is that perfect or that easy, but you try to paint it as such
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
shrugs
It'll all come out in the wash Spider, enough rounds left to wipe the egg off your face in time to dodge a bullet if you can
I look forward to your 'Epic' rebuttal when either Sky's or my ID emerges
I'll be sure to pick up some popcorn for that show!!
Sky is lying, deal with it
Your utter reluctance to even consider he isn't being truthful is baffling
Sky, tsk tsk telling porky pies! I don't blame you though man, it was worth a shot innit?
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
It'll all come out in the wash Spider, enough rounds left to wipe the egg off your face in time to dodge a bullet if you can
I look forward to your 'Epic' rebuttal when either Sky's or my ID emerges
I'll be sure to pick up some popcorn for that show!!
Sky is lying, deal with it
Your utter reluctance to even consider he isn't being truthful is baffling
Sky, tsk tsk telling porky pies! I don't blame you though man, it was worth a shot innit?
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
What I mean by the wolves being "forced" is that if Sky is the seer, THEY MUST eat him, because Round 5 is not must lynch, we have time to shoot either Sky or the "real seer" and find out who was telling the truth with the 6th round to sort things out knowing who's info was correct. If next round was must lynch, the wolves could risk leaving a true (but suspect) seer alive in the hopes they get shot for "still being here" so if sky is the seer, HE WILL BE EATEN. If the wolves leave him alive (and he's seer) they have made a terrible blunder as he gets more free info to us whether we shoot him next round or not
"It will all come out a wash"
UTTERLY FALSE
This is basic tennent of wwg, the humans get X amount of bullets, they can only miss on Y number of those bullets. Shooting Sky not only adds to Y but gives the wolves a free night eat (Scrubb) Thinking it 'is a wash' is a grievious miscalculation on your part because its not, shooting the seer who would surely be eaten, is a HORRIBLE BLUNDER
If I didnt beleive it was possible Sky was lying my vote would be on YOU and not waiting for Scrub. Its my turn to be obnoxious now
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
"It will all come out a wash"
UTTERLY FALSE
This is basic tennent of wwg, the humans get X amount of bullets, they can only miss on Y number of those bullets. Shooting Sky not only adds to Y but gives the wolves a free night eat (Scrubb) Thinking it 'is a wash' is a grievious miscalculation on your part because its not, shooting the seer who would surely be eaten, is a HORRIBLE BLUNDER
If I didnt beleive it was possible Sky was lying my vote would be on YOU and not waiting for Scrub. Its my turn to be obnoxious now
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
checking in
things are moving along nicely even though dan used the forbidden word
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things are moving along nicely even though dan used the forbidden word
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Im scared if you are a human because you've consistently ignored my main point, shooting Sky is like hitting an 18 on blackjack, theres a slight chance it could work out for you, but with the given information, shooting him is foolish, NO WHERE EVER did I say sky cant possibly be lying
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
There is quite a difference in the tone of our messages wouldn't you say?
Look, at the end of the day, it is a GAME. In this game I am a human and you are completely free to use Blackjack similes or any amount of X and Y you wish to get your view across. You have some good points, it's a pity I know it is completely wrong in this particular instance.
I respect your opinions usually, but of course it is more difficult when I know you are barking up the wrong tree.
I'm not interested in getting into a back and forth for the whole round, there are more than just us 2 in the game, but it does seem that Sky has been found out by the crowd, and although you find it difficult to believe, he has claimed falsely, to his detriment, and indirectly then to either yours or mine depending on how the round unfolds.
It will all come out in the wash, that's just a fact as after this round, there will be 2 more ID's known, and the destination of the next bullet would be practically written in stone depending on what happens to go down in this round. Regardless of who gets shot this round, Sky will be exposed:
Sky gets shot, his ID is revealed:
If he flips Seer, I will be shot the next round
If he flips Human, that is a result for the wolves as unless the real Seer is alive and has tagged them both, it could get messy.
If he flips wolf, I will probably be eaten
I get shot (From other's point of view):
I flip human, Sky is toast
I flip wolf, Sky is probably eaten
I flip Seer, Sky is toast
This round, it will all come down to the people who see through the claim v the wolves and or the people who believe the claim
Just thinking about that there, it would make more sense for the other wolf (assuming Sky is one) to quietly follow the lead
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Look, at the end of the day, it is a GAME. In this game I am a human and you are completely free to use Blackjack similes or any amount of X and Y you wish to get your view across. You have some good points, it's a pity I know it is completely wrong in this particular instance.
I respect your opinions usually, but of course it is more difficult when I know you are barking up the wrong tree.
I'm not interested in getting into a back and forth for the whole round, there are more than just us 2 in the game, but it does seem that Sky has been found out by the crowd, and although you find it difficult to believe, he has claimed falsely, to his detriment, and indirectly then to either yours or mine depending on how the round unfolds.
It will all come out in the wash, that's just a fact as after this round, there will be 2 more ID's known, and the destination of the next bullet would be practically written in stone depending on what happens to go down in this round. Regardless of who gets shot this round, Sky will be exposed:
Sky gets shot, his ID is revealed:
If he flips Seer, I will be shot the next round
If he flips Human, that is a result for the wolves as unless the real Seer is alive and has tagged them both, it could get messy.
If he flips wolf, I will probably be eaten
I get shot (From other's point of view):
I flip human, Sky is toast
I flip wolf, Sky is probably eaten
I flip Seer, Sky is toast
This round, it will all come down to the people who see through the claim v the wolves and or the people who believe the claim
Just thinking about that there, it would make more sense for the other wolf (assuming Sky is one) to quietly follow the lead
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Yeah if I were you I wouldnt be the one referencing tone.........anyone who strings together 6 has lost that right. The last couple games you have shown a fuse just as short as mine if not worse, so please dont combined obnoxiousness with 'holier than thou' its a terrible combo
regardless.....no it will not 'come out a wash' there is a possibility Sky gets shot in the next 2 rounds, but thats only a possibility IF he is not the seer, if we don't shoot him this round it will come out a wash as he will get one of the next two bullets. You must vote him as you 'know' he is lying, for anyone else, in the dark, "its a wash" is a lazy dangerous mindset that can lose the game.
For all my "barking" I am following a seer claim without an opposing claim in a spot where we both agreed a false claim would be a terrible idea, and you are gonna give me the "talking to" about the sanity of my play?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
regardless.....no it will not 'come out a wash' there is a possibility Sky gets shot in the next 2 rounds, but thats only a possibility IF he is not the seer, if we don't shoot him this round it will come out a wash as he will get one of the next two bullets. You must vote him as you 'know' he is lying, for anyone else, in the dark, "its a wash" is a lazy dangerous mindset that can lose the game.
For all my "barking" I am following a seer claim without an opposing claim in a spot where we both agreed a false claim would be a terrible idea, and you are gonna give me the "talking to" about the sanity of my play?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
no sign of scrub, following throgh on the Jayo vote
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
That was to be expected but Cat's silent switch wasn't
Day
It takes 5 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bradon182001 voted for Skybet
caberet voted for Skybet
catmandon voted for bradon182001
celtichero voted for scrub88
Jayo voted for Skybet
jeminy voted for Jayo
Skybet voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for Jayo
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Day
It takes 5 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bradon182001 voted for Skybet
caberet voted for Skybet
catmandon voted for bradon182001
celtichero voted for scrub88
Jayo voted for Skybet
jeminy voted for Jayo
Skybet voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for Jayo
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I have changed my vote to keep the round from ending..
heard for all but scrubb
What to do,what to do..
Shoot the one claimed as wolf??
Shoot the one claiming to be seer?
Shoot the only one that has not posted?
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
heard for all but scrubb
What to do,what to do..
Shoot the one claimed as wolf??
Shoot the one claiming to be seer?
Shoot the only one that has not posted?
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
not seer. i was suspicious of jayo after last round. Sky! i believe!
sorry about spelling. had date night. good lord why am i posting?
i hope this makes sense tomorrow.
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sorry about spelling. had date night. good lord why am i posting?
i hope this makes sense tomorrow.
---This message was edited on 2014-09-11 22:17:17---
Day
It takes 5 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bradon182001 voted for Skybet
caberet voted for Skybet
catmandon voted for bradon182001
celtichero voted for scrub88
Jayo voted for Skybet
jeminy voted for Jayo
scrub88 voted for Jayo
Skybet voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for Jayo
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
I am a human, Deb will tell you all about my Irish hands once I'm shot
Good luck humans, though you won't need it for next round
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
It takes 5 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bradon182001 voted for Skybet
caberet voted for Skybet
catmandon voted for bradon182001
celtichero voted for scrub88
Jayo voted for Skybet
jeminy voted for Jayo
scrub88 voted for Jayo
Skybet voted for Jayo
The_Spider voted for Jayo
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
I am a human, Deb will tell you all about my Irish hands once I'm shot
Good luck humans, though you won't need it for next round
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Looks like it's time to end the round.
Sure hope J is a wolf..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Sure hope J is a wolf..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
really great round
oh me o my o you shot jay o
and about his irish hands?? i will have to ask his wife
but he holds his baby all day and night
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oh me o my o you shot jay o
and about his irish hands?? i will have to ask his wife
but he holds his baby all day and night
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