The Werewolf Game
Game #525: Werewolf Game
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Wow, that was quick. I came on to re-read all the messages again and the next thing I know the round was ending. The good news is that cyndy is cleared of being a wolf since she hasn't been for a 2 days, which probably means it's a good thing we shot girl.
As for any other suspicions, I'm back to going over round 2 again.
As for any other suspicions, I'm back to going over round 2 again.
We have some very active wolves around here, not much of a system delay on that vote. For now I won't vote.
Yes, the wolves must have been hungary for a really quick meal! Our only confirmed human. I guess the wolves decided to take that from us. That is the problem with pointing a known human out. Sorry about that Crazy! ... Cyndy could be next, but I doubt if the wolves see her as much of a threat. We'll see. Hope Girl wasn't our seer!
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The wolves r very active i log on to see who was voted out and we already had the wolves kill of someone. I agree tghose who are on frequently might b the most suspicious outta us to be the wolf. But for no ill hold my vote
After reading through the round 2 posts yet again, I still don't have any more suspicions than I did before. I'm half tempted to ask Witty to reveal whether girl was a wolf or human. Knowing girl was a wolf would allow us to narrow down the field of possible wolves a lot. Unfortunately, I'm just not completely sure that girl was a wolf and if it came back that girl was human, we'd be in the same place we were before. I'd far rather wait a few rounds and see if knowing the identity of someone else could be of more help.
I think we have seen plenty to be suspicious about. I agree that we would be unwise to use it on Girl. Girl was almost certainly human. Maybe we'll have the seer steer us a bit this round but I am not betting heavily on it. The problem is, the seer is no better at missing humans than the other humans. If one of our guiding hands get shot, then I would want to check out their true identity.
It could be me this round as I still think Myth, Cinn and even you are suspicious. Myth voted for Huffle when it didn't really matter much as a danger to Huffle. That could also be another wise wolf ploy. I also think Myth is a good player and view his every move with a healthy dose of skepticism.
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It could be me this round as I still think Myth, Cinn and even you are suspicious. Myth voted for Huffle when it didn't really matter much as a danger to Huffle. That could also be another wise wolf ploy. I also think Myth is a good player and view his every move with a healthy dose of skepticism.
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I went ahead and voted Myth again. We can have the fast rounds Myth seems to want. I think Myth is too dangerous a player and has acted a bit irrationally. We'll see who wants to steer us away this time. If myth is shot, I say use the Witty hint and if he actually was human, shoot me! Or, worse case scenario, shoot me this round and check me out. You'll learn I'm human and may have been right about the block voters last round for Girl.
I know, half of the voters were human and felt we were taking a player out that wasn't helping the humans win. We know Cyndy was human, but the wolves knew that too and wouldn't gain much by having her shot since she really wasn't voting any body.
So, let's stir the pot and see what boils.
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I know, half of the voters were human and felt we were taking a player out that wasn't helping the humans win. We know Cyndy was human, but the wolves knew that too and wouldn't gain much by having her shot since she really wasn't voting any body.
So, let's stir the pot and see what boils.
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that was crazy fast - I've sat here all morning in front of my computer - as soon as the round ends I run to the store (okay run may be streatching it) but that was fast - delay? (I captured the screen as soon as I got back but 5 is no help if the game started at 4.)
I'm not sure what to think - wolves took out GC - that is the tactic used in the last game. I guess it is better that we didn't clear more people.
I'm not sure what to do - Bo you are wise and i probably should just jump on it but I want to reread the last round and think about what is happening.
Celebrate the moment!
I'm not sure what to think - wolves took out GC - that is the tactic used in the last game. I guess it is better that we didn't clear more people.
I'm not sure what to do - Bo you are wise and i probably should just jump on it but I want to reread the last round and think about what is happening.
Celebrate the moment!
Rita you can post a screen shot if you want but i for one will never again base my vote on the log in again because I obviously just do not get it.
Since Cyndy has still chosen not to grace us with her presence for 2 days she is surely human.. (i feel ok saying that in front of the wolves since all you have to do is click on her name and find that out ) So i was wrong about that but feel vindicated by her absence just the same.
Well my son wants me to go play Zelda.. I'll check back later (He likes to watch me do all the hard stuff then copy my file onto his so he can do all the fun stuff )
Since Cyndy has still chosen not to grace us with her presence for 2 days she is surely human.. (i feel ok saying that in front of the wolves since all you have to do is click on her name and find that out ) So i was wrong about that but feel vindicated by her absence just the same.
Well my son wants me to go play Zelda.. I'll check back later (He likes to watch me do all the hard stuff then copy my file onto his so he can do all the fun stuff )
Mom an hour after the fact wouln't be very helpful.
You are right it wasn't Cyndy - she is not even aware of the drama that included her.
I've got to get things pack for my trip tomorrow. I still have sick little ones.
It's interesting Cin is not on yet or Dach. Bo your logic may be very sound - I'm going to wait a little and see what the others have to say.
Celebrate the moment!
You are right it wasn't Cyndy - she is not even aware of the drama that included her.
I've got to get things pack for my trip tomorrow. I still have sick little ones.
It's interesting Cin is not on yet or Dach. Bo your logic may be very sound - I'm going to wait a little and see what the others have to say.
Celebrate the moment!
Wow, I did not expect the round to end so fast. From what I can tell the day portion ran its course. I have no idea how long the night round was other than it was short.
As of right now I am at a complete loss. Some of my suspicions just went right out the window. If anyone can confirm anyone else to be human, I am not so sure its a good idea to reveal it. As Bo said, the wolves ate our only confirmed human. We have again this round 1 more confirmed human. If the wolves follow patttern it will be cyndy eaten this round.
Bo, I have been suspicious of you, but after rereading all your posts, which I truly love reading, I think you play the game a lot like I do. Now I know I have always been human, but I am wondering if maybe you are as well trying some of the tactics I myself may have used in previous games.
I am at a loss for now and my head is swimming with too many possiblities. I am going to bed and see if a clear head in the morning can help at all.
Edit to add: Rita I just saw your post. Curious as to why you think its interesting I was not on yet, when in fact I am. We simulposted and I have been trying to figure out what to make of it all. I will check back in the morning and see if I can think more clearly.
Edit again: I am assuming that means you are suspicious of me. But for anyone who does take the screen shots of logons, you will undoubtedly be able to prove I am human, as I have not logged on during night, but I don't think I want you to post that info.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
As of right now I am at a complete loss. Some of my suspicions just went right out the window. If anyone can confirm anyone else to be human, I am not so sure its a good idea to reveal it. As Bo said, the wolves ate our only confirmed human. We have again this round 1 more confirmed human. If the wolves follow patttern it will be cyndy eaten this round.
Bo, I have been suspicious of you, but after rereading all your posts, which I truly love reading, I think you play the game a lot like I do. Now I know I have always been human, but I am wondering if maybe you are as well trying some of the tactics I myself may have used in previous games.
I am at a loss for now and my head is swimming with too many possiblities. I am going to bed and see if a clear head in the morning can help at all.
Edit to add: Rita I just saw your post. Curious as to why you think its interesting I was not on yet, when in fact I am. We simulposted and I have been trying to figure out what to make of it all. I will check back in the morning and see if I can think more clearly.
Edit again: I am assuming that means you are suspicious of me. But for anyone who does take the screen shots of logons, you will undoubtedly be able to prove I am human, as I have not logged on during night, but I don't think I want you to post that info.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Thank goodness we didn't shoot cyndy!
I want to place some suspicion on irish. He seems to post at least once per round, in order not to be deemed inactive, but other than that he doesn't post at all. He also changes his vote without warning, post, or reason (though the 3 go hand in hand in hand ).
However, I'm really too tired to argue right now. I'm going to go to sleep and come back after school tomorrow. However, I will throw in a vote for mythmaster, for reasons stated by myself and zonahobo this round and last. (We're writing a novel again! Look how long last round's discussion is!) This is my sleepy face: Looks like I'm falling asleep at the keyboard
Edited for color (see how tired I am? I never forget that!)
EDIT: Saw rita's post: why is it suspicious that I haven't been on yet? I honestly didn't think night would be over, but came and checked anyway. And I was busy typing and studying while you posted. I'll have you know that I am human...if you can only trust me
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~~Albert Einstein
I want to place some suspicion on irish. He seems to post at least once per round, in order not to be deemed inactive, but other than that he doesn't post at all. He also changes his vote without warning, post, or reason (though the 3 go hand in hand in hand ).
However, I'm really too tired to argue right now. I'm going to go to sleep and come back after school tomorrow. However, I will throw in a vote for mythmaster, for reasons stated by myself and zonahobo this round and last. (We're writing a novel again! Look how long last round's discussion is!) This is my sleepy face: Looks like I'm falling asleep at the keyboard
Edited for color (see how tired I am? I never forget that!)
EDIT: Saw rita's post: why is it suspicious that I haven't been on yet? I honestly didn't think night would be over, but came and checked anyway. And I was busy typing and studying while you posted. I'll have you know that I am human...if you can only trust me
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~~Albert Einstein
Well now Irish has also sparked my interest, as of now I think I will vote for him. Although I am a bit suspicious of Zonahobo, although I'm suspicious of him about as much as I would be suspicious of myself.
Myth, I loved your humor. I like too that you seem interested in playing again.
See ya all tommorrow I too must get some sleep.
Celebrate the moment!
See ya all tommorrow I too must get some sleep.
Celebrate the moment!
I do think irish was awfully quick to vote for cyndy last round, but not enough for me to want to vote for him yet. Well, I agree that there's no point in trying to reason things out until I get some sleep. I'll be back tomorrow, and then we'll find those wolves!
Wow, I agree with you that night didn't last very long. I'm always struggling to just keep up with all the posts that you make. It's great to have active players!
Livin' that mom-life...
Livin' that mom-life...
A new day - Monday maybe this is the day we get a clue? a tell? a hunch?
Votes so far
mythmaster voted for irishsofty
zonahobo voted for mythmaster
Celebrate the moment!
Votes so far
mythmaster voted for irishsofty
zonahobo voted for mythmaster
Celebrate the moment!
Good morning all. I have been rereading the previous rounds again, but I must admit I still don't have much to report. So I am going to try to put some ideas in writing and see what everyone else thinks. Maybe we can use the info to narrow down our wolves.
From what I can tell, it looks like the night round lasted at most 1hr 32mins. Thats pretty darn fast. That could mean 1 of 2 things: we have some very very hungry wolves or we have shot at least one wolf. The last game I played where the night went so fast, there was only 1 wolf left. I don't want to believe we have shot 2 wolves so far, but maybe 1 - girl. If we haven't shot a wolf, then all 3 voted practically as soon as the day round ended.
Here's what we know for sure: Cyndy, Mocha & GCcrazy were human. Now every human left can insert themselves in that list and that will leave 10 players to choose from as possible wolves. We are unsure of girl & minlo at this point.
Now the seer may be able to add 2 more humans to this list, leaving only 8 to choose from as wolves. I don't see anyone standing out above anyone else in trying to place accusations on players. So I don't know if its worth knowing who the seer has divined so far, unless they can absolutely confirm a wolf and find a good way of pointing us in that direction. Not an easy task.
So here's what we have left::
Christina S - Hasn't posted much at all. Has said she is NOT a wolf. Feels myth is suspicious but felt cinn's reasoning of girl was better and voted girl over myth.
Cinnamon - I have no problem coming to someone's defense if I truly think they are human. I partly base that on how I have seen players play. I am very talkative, which gets me in a lot of trouble at times. I don't need people to throw suspicion my way as I do enough of that for myself. I don't like to keep inactives around.
Dachshund - Not one of the most talkative, but not one of the few either, therefore is in the middle. Doesn't like to keep inactives around. Didn't vote minlo and has stated he is NOT a wolf. Found cyndy, myth & girl to be suspicious and chose girl. Would like to shift the vote back to myth, if others would follow. Now finds irish suspicious.
Huffle - Hasn't posted much at all so far, which is unlike her. In the first round found minlo & irish suspicious for lack of posting. Doesn't like to keep inactives around. Has stated she is HUMAN. Decided her vote in round 2 would be between girl & cyndy, since everyone else went that way. Has stated some concern about myth as a possible wolf. Feels irish is suspicious this round.
Irish - Hardly posts at all. Has stated that myth is probably human. Felt cyndy was very suspicious.
Mom2Ozzy - Likes to post. Round 1 was mostly having fun with the rest of us. Felt cyndy was a wolf based on Ritas logon post. Feels cinn & dach were protecting myth.Felt cyndy had 2 strikes for lack of inactivity. She is still trying to wrap her head around the game, being her first game.
Myth - Voted very early in round 1, as a fish vote. Seemed to want out of the game in round 1. Round 2, picked up a bit more and voted girl. Seems to have more interest this game now and now finds irish & Bo suspicious.
Rascalian - Likes to vote out inactives as well. Hasn't posted much this game so far. Suggested the seer divine myth or minlo because of early voting. Asked why he was suspicious and what were the chances of being a wolf 2 games in a row.Possibly thinks myth is human and was looking at those who voted myth as suspicious.
Zonahobo - Very talkative. Voted minlo for inactivity and voting without a single post.Voted for myth because he thought myth didn't have much reason to vote huffle again. Would switch to cyndy if others thought it was a good idea. Thought cinn was suspicious for "protecting" myth. Chose cyndy over girl because girl was at least voting. Still suspects myth.
Zonarita - Very talkative. Voted minlo for inactivity as everyone else did.Thought Christina & Cyndy were suspicious because of logon screen shots she took. Likes to vote out inactives as well because they help the wolves more in the end. Thought maybe myth should have been the vote instead of cyndy or girl. Thinks possibly dach and cinn are wolves or at least one of them. After more votes were in, thinks maybe both cyndy & girl are human.
I have spent the last 2.5 hours working on this. I have taken each player and read every post they made and condensed it somewhat. Now after I post this, I will have to look over all the info and see what I can deduce from all this. Feel free to make any comments, suggestions or accusations on this info. I have not captured everything about everyone, but most of the important stuff, I think. I hope this helps us all.
Edit: Sorry for the long post. I thought if we had most of it on one page it would help.
Edited for typos.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
From what I can tell, it looks like the night round lasted at most 1hr 32mins. Thats pretty darn fast. That could mean 1 of 2 things: we have some very very hungry wolves or we have shot at least one wolf. The last game I played where the night went so fast, there was only 1 wolf left. I don't want to believe we have shot 2 wolves so far, but maybe 1 - girl. If we haven't shot a wolf, then all 3 voted practically as soon as the day round ended.
Here's what we know for sure: Cyndy, Mocha & GCcrazy were human. Now every human left can insert themselves in that list and that will leave 10 players to choose from as possible wolves. We are unsure of girl & minlo at this point.
Now the seer may be able to add 2 more humans to this list, leaving only 8 to choose from as wolves. I don't see anyone standing out above anyone else in trying to place accusations on players. So I don't know if its worth knowing who the seer has divined so far, unless they can absolutely confirm a wolf and find a good way of pointing us in that direction. Not an easy task.
So here's what we have left::
Christina S - Hasn't posted much at all. Has said she is NOT a wolf. Feels myth is suspicious but felt cinn's reasoning of girl was better and voted girl over myth.
Cinnamon - I have no problem coming to someone's defense if I truly think they are human. I partly base that on how I have seen players play. I am very talkative, which gets me in a lot of trouble at times. I don't need people to throw suspicion my way as I do enough of that for myself. I don't like to keep inactives around.
Dachshund - Not one of the most talkative, but not one of the few either, therefore is in the middle. Doesn't like to keep inactives around. Didn't vote minlo and has stated he is NOT a wolf. Found cyndy, myth & girl to be suspicious and chose girl. Would like to shift the vote back to myth, if others would follow. Now finds irish suspicious.
Huffle - Hasn't posted much at all so far, which is unlike her. In the first round found minlo & irish suspicious for lack of posting. Doesn't like to keep inactives around. Has stated she is HUMAN. Decided her vote in round 2 would be between girl & cyndy, since everyone else went that way. Has stated some concern about myth as a possible wolf. Feels irish is suspicious this round.
Irish - Hardly posts at all. Has stated that myth is probably human. Felt cyndy was very suspicious.
Mom2Ozzy - Likes to post. Round 1 was mostly having fun with the rest of us. Felt cyndy was a wolf based on Ritas logon post. Feels cinn & dach were protecting myth.Felt cyndy had 2 strikes for lack of inactivity. She is still trying to wrap her head around the game, being her first game.
Myth - Voted very early in round 1, as a fish vote. Seemed to want out of the game in round 1. Round 2, picked up a bit more and voted girl. Seems to have more interest this game now and now finds irish & Bo suspicious.
Rascalian - Likes to vote out inactives as well. Hasn't posted much this game so far. Suggested the seer divine myth or minlo because of early voting. Asked why he was suspicious and what were the chances of being a wolf 2 games in a row.Possibly thinks myth is human and was looking at those who voted myth as suspicious.
Zonahobo - Very talkative. Voted minlo for inactivity and voting without a single post.Voted for myth because he thought myth didn't have much reason to vote huffle again. Would switch to cyndy if others thought it was a good idea. Thought cinn was suspicious for "protecting" myth. Chose cyndy over girl because girl was at least voting. Still suspects myth.
Zonarita - Very talkative. Voted minlo for inactivity as everyone else did.Thought Christina & Cyndy were suspicious because of logon screen shots she took. Likes to vote out inactives as well because they help the wolves more in the end. Thought maybe myth should have been the vote instead of cyndy or girl. Thinks possibly dach and cinn are wolves or at least one of them. After more votes were in, thinks maybe both cyndy & girl are human.
I have spent the last 2.5 hours working on this. I have taken each player and read every post they made and condensed it somewhat. Now after I post this, I will have to look over all the info and see what I can deduce from all this. Feel free to make any comments, suggestions or accusations on this info. I have not captured everything about everyone, but most of the important stuff, I think. I hope this helps us all.
Edit: Sorry for the long post. I thought if we had most of it on one page it would help.
Edited for typos.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Wow Cinn! What time do you wake up woman?! It's 9am my time and i'm still trying to clear the cobwebs from my brain and you have already published Who's the Wolf for Dummies!!
But thanks though, It helps to have that info all on one page.
But thanks though, It helps to have that info all on one page.
Mom, you crack me up. Thank goodness I didn't post my ideas about each player yet. I still have to absorb it all myself.
I got up @ 6am, did my physio, left for work @ 6:50am. Got to work @ 7:30am, checked my emails, nothing pressing at work, logged into braingle and voila.
I will go over the info and then post who I think is most suspicious. Maybe our seer can help us out, if they are still here, and try to lead us in the right direction.
Edit: Its 115am here now. I am 2 hours ahead of braingle time. (Atlantic Standard Time for me).
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I got up @ 6am, did my physio, left for work @ 6:50am. Got to work @ 7:30am, checked my emails, nothing pressing at work, logged into braingle and voila.
I will go over the info and then post who I think is most suspicious. Maybe our seer can help us out, if they are still here, and try to lead us in the right direction.
Edit: Its 115am here now. I am 2 hours ahead of braingle time. (Atlantic Standard Time for me).
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Wow... you are one dedicated player to this game, Cinn, to work on it for 2 whole hours! I'm on Braingle time as well, Mom! Looks like you players have a lot to analyze, so I'll get out of your way for a while.
Livin' that mom-life...
Livin' that mom-life...
Lol Cinn.. glad to have given you a giggle for the the day
Right at the moment i'm going to sit back and mull over the best way to approach this game in general before I throw anything else out there.
Right at the moment i'm going to sit back and mull over the best way to approach this game in general before I throw anything else out there.
It is so hard when playing this game to not look at players past games and use that info in your current game to determine if they are human or wolf. I am going to do my best here and list my theories on the players in my above list. Please feel free to comment on anything. I may easily overlook something, so someone pointing out a flaw may be very helpful for me. Here goes:
Christina - I am still unsure of her. I have never seen her play before, so I can't use that info. Her posts don't offer very much to this game, so its hard to base a decision on so little info.
Dachshund - Thinks I am a strong player. I swear he is reading my mind as most of his suggestions have been the same as mine, except I haven't posted all of my ideas. I am leaning towards him as human.
Huffle - Hasn't said much which looks very suspicious to me as I have seen her play. Has not jumped to anyones defense as she is known to do, even when not the seer.
Irish - Their posts don't offer very much to this game either, so its hard to base a decision on so little info. However, I have never seen play before, but with all the accusations flying around doesn't seem to comment too much on them. Still hasn't tried to defend themselves from being accused. I know no matter what they say in trying to defend themselves would likely look suspicious, but lack of defense looks more suspicious to me.
Mom - My first instinct was she was human. Then I thought maybe wolf, but I am back to thinking she is human. I know this is her first game, but she just doesn't show any real suspicious signs of a wolf. She seems to be trying to base her decisions on what she feels is best and tries to not follow the leader. Not usually a wolf "quality".
Myth - Has seemed suspicious because of early voting. Looked more suspicious by the "I want out ploy". A few have felt he is a strong player, and I agree that he is as I have seen him play before. I just don't see the wolflike behaviour from him as I have seen from others. This may be bad, but right now I am calling it like I see it. Normally he is more talkative. I believe the lack of talking so far this game is due to him not liking the long day rounds. I myself would never join games before with 2 day "days". I can't hold that against him. He started a fish vote very early, but that is not enough to suspect him as a wolf. Someone has to do it in Round 1. Some use more pizazz when making the first fish vote, others don't.
Rascalian - Again a newbie to the game. Was a wolf in his first game. Rasal, the comment you made about the chances of being a wolf 2 times in a row are no greater or less than being a human 2 times in a row or seer for that matter. Granted the possibitly is you'll be human more often than wolf, but that comment makes me wonder if you are a wolf again. I think you are very clever and careful in what you say and when you say it. You picked up this game really fast. Not much else for me to go on to suspect you as a wolf.
Zonahobo - I have flip flopped on you the most I think. After reading all your posts again and again, I see a lot of me in the way you play. Granted you seem to use a bit more logic than I do, but I like the way you play. I think you are being honest and trying to call it as you see it. You don't seem to flip flop your judgement of players. I don't think you are a wolf at this point.
Zonarita - I have also flip flopped on you as well. I have seen you play as both human and wolf. I have to admit that you are by far the best player I have ever seen play human when you were a wolf. This makes me very leery. However, I can't hold that against you every game either. So based on just this game, I am not convinced that you are a wolf, but I am not entirely convinced you are human either. You were torn between cyndy & girl. We know cyndy is human but are unsure of girl at this point. If you are a wolf, you would know if girl is human or wolf. By stating in this round you think both may be human makes you look more wolfish to try and sway the vote from a fellow wolf. You seemed very quick to make cyndy look very suspicious because of the logon screens. But you also post the screens for everyone, which most wolves wouldn't do. So I am torn on you right now.
Any feeedback about any of this would be great, including feedback about your thoughts on me.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Christina - I am still unsure of her. I have never seen her play before, so I can't use that info. Her posts don't offer very much to this game, so its hard to base a decision on so little info.
Dachshund - Thinks I am a strong player. I swear he is reading my mind as most of his suggestions have been the same as mine, except I haven't posted all of my ideas. I am leaning towards him as human.
Huffle - Hasn't said much which looks very suspicious to me as I have seen her play. Has not jumped to anyones defense as she is known to do, even when not the seer.
Irish - Their posts don't offer very much to this game either, so its hard to base a decision on so little info. However, I have never seen play before, but with all the accusations flying around doesn't seem to comment too much on them. Still hasn't tried to defend themselves from being accused. I know no matter what they say in trying to defend themselves would likely look suspicious, but lack of defense looks more suspicious to me.
Mom - My first instinct was she was human. Then I thought maybe wolf, but I am back to thinking she is human. I know this is her first game, but she just doesn't show any real suspicious signs of a wolf. She seems to be trying to base her decisions on what she feels is best and tries to not follow the leader. Not usually a wolf "quality".
Myth - Has seemed suspicious because of early voting. Looked more suspicious by the "I want out ploy". A few have felt he is a strong player, and I agree that he is as I have seen him play before. I just don't see the wolflike behaviour from him as I have seen from others. This may be bad, but right now I am calling it like I see it. Normally he is more talkative. I believe the lack of talking so far this game is due to him not liking the long day rounds. I myself would never join games before with 2 day "days". I can't hold that against him. He started a fish vote very early, but that is not enough to suspect him as a wolf. Someone has to do it in Round 1. Some use more pizazz when making the first fish vote, others don't.
Rascalian - Again a newbie to the game. Was a wolf in his first game. Rasal, the comment you made about the chances of being a wolf 2 times in a row are no greater or less than being a human 2 times in a row or seer for that matter. Granted the possibitly is you'll be human more often than wolf, but that comment makes me wonder if you are a wolf again. I think you are very clever and careful in what you say and when you say it. You picked up this game really fast. Not much else for me to go on to suspect you as a wolf.
Zonahobo - I have flip flopped on you the most I think. After reading all your posts again and again, I see a lot of me in the way you play. Granted you seem to use a bit more logic than I do, but I like the way you play. I think you are being honest and trying to call it as you see it. You don't seem to flip flop your judgement of players. I don't think you are a wolf at this point.
Zonarita - I have also flip flopped on you as well. I have seen you play as both human and wolf. I have to admit that you are by far the best player I have ever seen play human when you were a wolf. This makes me very leery. However, I can't hold that against you every game either. So based on just this game, I am not convinced that you are a wolf, but I am not entirely convinced you are human either. You were torn between cyndy & girl. We know cyndy is human but are unsure of girl at this point. If you are a wolf, you would know if girl is human or wolf. By stating in this round you think both may be human makes you look more wolfish to try and sway the vote from a fellow wolf. You seemed very quick to make cyndy look very suspicious because of the logon screens. But you also post the screens for everyone, which most wolves wouldn't do. So I am torn on you right now.
Any feeedback about any of this would be great, including feedback about your thoughts on me.
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Sorry wasn't on for last round. Busy, Busy weekend.
Teehee...my GOSH night went fast...and my mom was using my computer ALL day yesterday (for doing taxes) so I was unable to log on. Hopefully my week won't be as busy as my weekend so I will be able to contribute more. *rushes off to read posts and attempt to make a nice big logical post like Cinn*
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I don't know about it being logical, but some feedback would be great. I am sure there is plenty I have missed. Having others thoughts or ideas might help me or anyone else catch our wolves this game.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Cyndy's avi seems very appropriate .... She is very much like the wind considering how she blows in and back out again with barely a sound.
I'm going to have to think some on why she is sticking in my craw the way she is
Very nice synopsis Cinn you have definitly given me a lot to think on and i'm going to go back and read some posts from a couple of people that I have been looking at as well.
I'm going to have to think some on why she is sticking in my craw the way she is
Very nice synopsis Cinn you have definitly given me a lot to think on and i'm going to go back and read some posts from a couple of people that I have been looking at as well.
Right now...i am still leaning towards Myth being a wolf. I have played with him before, and know him to be a good player. I think his whole "I want out" is most likely a ploy. Again...I am not sure as I can't read people's minds. But to me...this seems the most plausible case.
Cinn seems to be rather in defense of Myth, altho in a rather objective way. Maybe they are in cahoots as rascally wolves?
(this is just...me thinking aloud)
I am finding myself agreeing with almost everything Hobo has said so far...and he is suspicious of Cinn. But Cinn has said that she doesn't think he is a wolf at this point, so that may blow my Cinn/Myth theory out of the water. However...she could be just trying to act as objective as possible in order to throw as much suspicion off herself as possible. (because the first thing most wolves would do is the "Well since you think *I'M* suspicious...look at how suspicious you are" sorta thing)
Cinn is probably one of the strongest players in this game right now, and I am very hesitant to vote her off, especially since...I am NOT seeing her as a wolf right now. (all of the above was kind of "devil's advocate" )
My suspicions of Myth all still remain the same, so I am voting for him.
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Cinn seems to be rather in defense of Myth, altho in a rather objective way. Maybe they are in cahoots as rascally wolves?
(this is just...me thinking aloud)
I am finding myself agreeing with almost everything Hobo has said so far...and he is suspicious of Cinn. But Cinn has said that she doesn't think he is a wolf at this point, so that may blow my Cinn/Myth theory out of the water. However...she could be just trying to act as objective as possible in order to throw as much suspicion off herself as possible. (because the first thing most wolves would do is the "Well since you think *I'M* suspicious...look at how suspicious you are" sorta thing)
Cinn is probably one of the strongest players in this game right now, and I am very hesitant to vote her off, especially since...I am NOT seeing her as a wolf right now. (all of the above was kind of "devil's advocate" )
My suspicions of Myth all still remain the same, so I am voting for him.
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Well Christina, if you think I am one of the strongest players and don't want to vote me off right now, then why not consider myth is human. You voted twice so far following my reasoning, as you have said in both previous rounds, even though you wanted to vote for myth both times. As I see it right now, you are a very clever wolf, pointing the finger my way if it turns on you, therefore you know myth would be human and why not vote for him now using the whole "I want out ploy" as your reasoning this round. For that matter why not start a vote for me. Many have expressed concern over me being a wolf. It wouldn't be much of a push to get people to agree.
The fact that you were in no hurry in round 2 to vote either girl or cyndy makes me want to believe they are both human. You also seemed very reluctant about myth wanting to vote for huffle. I agree he gave no logic behind it, but you chose not to vote for him following my reasoning of girl. I believe if there was more votes for myth you would have stuck with myth, so why rock the boat so to speak and just vote for 1 of the 2 everyone else was voting and hopefully stay under the radar doing so. So maybe you are a wolf protecting a fellow wolf (Huffle). Both of you seem to be under the radar this game, albeit you are not the only ones, but you both are standing out to me at this point.
This round, Bo has started the vote for myth and if you are a wolf, it is very easy to jump on that bandwagon.
Right now you are looking like a very good choice as wolf. I will hold off voting to see what other people think. Of course, I may be way off base here. I think I am thinking too much again.
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The fact that you were in no hurry in round 2 to vote either girl or cyndy makes me want to believe they are both human. You also seemed very reluctant about myth wanting to vote for huffle. I agree he gave no logic behind it, but you chose not to vote for him following my reasoning of girl. I believe if there was more votes for myth you would have stuck with myth, so why rock the boat so to speak and just vote for 1 of the 2 everyone else was voting and hopefully stay under the radar doing so. So maybe you are a wolf protecting a fellow wolf (Huffle). Both of you seem to be under the radar this game, albeit you are not the only ones, but you both are standing out to me at this point.
This round, Bo has started the vote for myth and if you are a wolf, it is very easy to jump on that bandwagon.
Right now you are looking like a very good choice as wolf. I will hold off voting to see what other people think. Of course, I may be way off base here. I think I am thinking too much again.
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Very good point there, Cinn
As I said in my above post, I was mostly playing devil's advocate...pointing the finger at the least-suspected player as of right now...not really trying to convince anyone of anything, and not set in my mind as to what I think. (thinking aloud )
Maybe I AM a wolf protecting a fellow wolf, in this game there is no use denying things!
So I think, either of our logic could work...maybe we are both wolves!
Again...Myth just seems the most likely candidate for Wolf-ishness...so I'm voting for him as of right now. IF more evidence comes up, or someone posts something that and I'm like "woah, never thought of that!!" my vote may change...
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As I said in my above post, I was mostly playing devil's advocate...pointing the finger at the least-suspected player as of right now...not really trying to convince anyone of anything, and not set in my mind as to what I think. (thinking aloud )
Maybe I AM a wolf protecting a fellow wolf, in this game there is no use denying things!
So I think, either of our logic could work...maybe we are both wolves!
Again...Myth just seems the most likely candidate for Wolf-ishness...so I'm voting for him as of right now. IF more evidence comes up, or someone posts something that and I'm like "woah, never thought of that!!" my vote may change...
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Wow Cinn. You have put a lot of labor into the game! I had some Nanny duty and couldn't get in much except to try to read Cinn's game brain dump and some of the other comments.
One of the strongest suspicions I have about Myth (besides being sure he is a shrewd adept wolf game veteran) is that Cinn seems to be defending him as a good player. When you vote early and others are reluctant to join, that has been about the only way I have been able to detect wolf relationships in the few games I have played. Wolves do try to cover each other because they truly know each other's identity.
Humans have to operate in the dark which is a huge advantage for the wolves. We hopefully still have a seer, but that is a real tough job to steer the group without the wolves knowing you are the seer. Seer's are definitely on top of the wolf menu.
I do think Cinn much prefers being a human and trying to catch wolves. I also think the luck of the draw may have her as a wolf this game and is trying to steer us away from Myth because of "wolf knowledge" which is more than a feeling. Cinn posted that it was all about winning in an earlier round and I think it was a veiled apology to her chums in this game for being a wolf.
I really think that despite knowing girl could have been our seer, those sticking with girl last round included the wolves. I could be wrong and will eat crow at the end of the game if I am. That is my honest appraisal.
To me, it is not all about winning, but how you play the game. Players here seem to be doing a good job playing and I appreciate that in this game. Myth has even also been very cordial despite my suspicious posts. He could be detached from the game somewhat or also a very smart wolf.
I too have felt more and less supcious of others in the game. I thought dach might be too easily led at first but I see him trying to act more independantly now.
Voting this round will be important. Irish hasn't done much to cause me to be very suspicious. I think some humans try to keep a low profile in posting because they don't want the wolves to eat them. I think inactives who don't even vote should be voted out as a general rule. Others, especially new players, are likely to try and stay out of the cross-fire and will at least try to help by voting.
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One of the strongest suspicions I have about Myth (besides being sure he is a shrewd adept wolf game veteran) is that Cinn seems to be defending him as a good player. When you vote early and others are reluctant to join, that has been about the only way I have been able to detect wolf relationships in the few games I have played. Wolves do try to cover each other because they truly know each other's identity.
Humans have to operate in the dark which is a huge advantage for the wolves. We hopefully still have a seer, but that is a real tough job to steer the group without the wolves knowing you are the seer. Seer's are definitely on top of the wolf menu.
I do think Cinn much prefers being a human and trying to catch wolves. I also think the luck of the draw may have her as a wolf this game and is trying to steer us away from Myth because of "wolf knowledge" which is more than a feeling. Cinn posted that it was all about winning in an earlier round and I think it was a veiled apology to her chums in this game for being a wolf.
I really think that despite knowing girl could have been our seer, those sticking with girl last round included the wolves. I could be wrong and will eat crow at the end of the game if I am. That is my honest appraisal.
To me, it is not all about winning, but how you play the game. Players here seem to be doing a good job playing and I appreciate that in this game. Myth has even also been very cordial despite my suspicious posts. He could be detached from the game somewhat or also a very smart wolf.
I too have felt more and less supcious of others in the game. I thought dach might be too easily led at first but I see him trying to act more independantly now.
Voting this round will be important. Irish hasn't done much to cause me to be very suspicious. I think some humans try to keep a low profile in posting because they don't want the wolves to eat them. I think inactives who don't even vote should be voted out as a general rule. Others, especially new players, are likely to try and stay out of the cross-fire and will at least try to help by voting.
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I don't know about Irish being a human he seems to be more of a low profile person and people often figure out wolves by what they say and accidentally slip up with. The last game I played I was a wolf with him and he seemed to be playing a bit of a similar game to what I can recollect. Of course that game was horribly inactive with only the three wolves casting votes in the last round! As for this game I would have to say that it has a very interesting group of people with good opinions and thought processes. I like how the nights go fast and I always have hated it when there were slow wolves. So for now I will stick with my Irish vote on the suspicion that he is just laying low and trying to dodge the fire. Although I don't know if he would be voting that fast as a wolf? Oh well there are always questions and I have to vote for someone.
well as it seems several of u feel i am a wolf and say i am tryin to lay low well the fact is i have school during the day an work at night so i can only get on between them. Also i no i dont post much but i do come on an try to figure wat is goin on. I will say im not a wolf but that probally wont change ure mind but for now ill hold onto my vote as it is i think myth is suspicious but dont have enough evidence to base it on.
Once again, I want to vote for myth. He follows the leader waaay to quickly for me to be comfortable with it. I made a post just thinking out loud about my suspicions about irish, and he hopped on board. Maybe he thought turning my attention towards irish would get it away from himself, therefore making him wolf-like suspicious.
That's all for now--I need to take a tylenol.
Cinn: Wow on your 2 big posts. You are a dedicated player. And thanks for putting some evidence towards me being human. I realize I am playing much different than last game, but last game I was a cleared human. This game I am human, but uncleared.
And christina: you stole my color!
EDIT: I think myth has fallen under the spell of the long post. Remember last game someone commented "is this a competition to see who can get the longest post?" when everyone was under fire
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That's all for now--I need to take a tylenol.
Cinn: Wow on your 2 big posts. You are a dedicated player. And thanks for putting some evidence towards me being human. I realize I am playing much different than last game, but last game I was a cleared human. This game I am human, but uncleared.
And christina: you stole my color!
EDIT: I think myth has fallen under the spell of the long post. Remember last game someone commented "is this a competition to see who can get the longest post?" when everyone was under fire
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Awww...ok, I'll do orange!
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Well, as I read and reread my posts, I am sticking to my theory of Christina being a wolf and protecting Huffle. I am going to vote for Christina this round.
Irish, I have considered you suspicious because of the not posting much to stay under the radar idea. But because I think Christina is a wolf protecting Huffle and Huffle says she is suspicious of you this round, I am leaning towards you being human as well. There were at least 5 people not posting much and all of you can't be wolves.
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Edit again: Christina, I forgot to tell you I love your defense argument. Its probably one of the better ones I have ever seen. But as I know I am human, your argument is not enough for me to believe you are human.
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Irish, I have considered you suspicious because of the not posting much to stay under the radar idea. But because I think Christina is a wolf protecting Huffle and Huffle says she is suspicious of you this round, I am leaning towards you being human as well. There were at least 5 people not posting much and all of you can't be wolves.
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Edit again: Christina, I forgot to tell you I love your defense argument. Its probably one of the better ones I have ever seen. But as I know I am human, your argument is not enough for me to believe you are human.
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haha christina I'm just playing
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~~Albert Einstein
I have a question ---
Bo and Christina-- If you both feel so strongly that Cinnamon is a wolf protecting one of her own then why aren't you voting for her?
I am not trying to change your votes but this has been nagging at me.
Got another one---
Dach-- what do you mean once again you want to vote for myth? In the last round you mentioned something about him but then you brought up girl as suspicious in the very same post.. When Cinn jumped on that and voted you Immeditley followed suit and cast your vote. What were you doing Fishing for Cinn's opinion and approval before you acted? And again in this round you brought up Irish as suspicious in the same post that you only mentioned myth. You may be the first to "place" suspicion on someone but if you ask me if any one is playing follow the leader it's you. As a matter of fact i am somewhat leaning to the possibility that your vote this round for myth is to seperate yourself not only from myth but Cinn as well (who has now come under fire.) Poor myth.. went from protected cub to sacrificial lamb in one fell swoop.
P.S. in no way is this an endorsement for or against Myth. I am still undecided as to how I will vote but I must say the replies to ALL of my quires are what will decide my vote.
Bo and Christina-- If you both feel so strongly that Cinnamon is a wolf protecting one of her own then why aren't you voting for her?
I am not trying to change your votes but this has been nagging at me.
Got another one---
Dach-- what do you mean once again you want to vote for myth? In the last round you mentioned something about him but then you brought up girl as suspicious in the very same post.. When Cinn jumped on that and voted you Immeditley followed suit and cast your vote. What were you doing Fishing for Cinn's opinion and approval before you acted? And again in this round you brought up Irish as suspicious in the same post that you only mentioned myth. You may be the first to "place" suspicion on someone but if you ask me if any one is playing follow the leader it's you. As a matter of fact i am somewhat leaning to the possibility that your vote this round for myth is to seperate yourself not only from myth but Cinn as well (who has now come under fire.) Poor myth.. went from protected cub to sacrificial lamb in one fell swoop.
P.S. in no way is this an endorsement for or against Myth. I am still undecided as to how I will vote but I must say the replies to ALL of my quires are what will decide my vote.
And the gloves are off.
Mom kudos for finally saying something. I have been wondering the same thing. Many people have alluded to me being very suspicious, but I don't understand why no one has voted for me either. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to get shot, as I prefer to be eaten.
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Edit again: I certainly don't hide the fact that I am suspicious. I can only hope, that people read what I say and seriously consider my theories. If there is a better one out there, I am all for considering it.
Just a thought mom, but maybe Bo or Christina are the seer and already know the answer to my identity. Maybe they can help me, cause sometimes I don't know who I am.
Oh wait, I poked myself with my twig again, this time in the heart. I am still alive, guess I am human after all.
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Mom kudos for finally saying something. I have been wondering the same thing. Many people have alluded to me being very suspicious, but I don't understand why no one has voted for me either. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to get shot, as I prefer to be eaten.
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Edit again: I certainly don't hide the fact that I am suspicious. I can only hope, that people read what I say and seriously consider my theories. If there is a better one out there, I am all for considering it.
Just a thought mom, but maybe Bo or Christina are the seer and already know the answer to my identity. Maybe they can help me, cause sometimes I don't know who I am.
Oh wait, I poked myself with my twig again, this time in the heart. I am still alive, guess I am human after all.
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*ducks the flying accusations* Wow... it is getting pretty steamy in here. *watches a mudball fly overhead* Great that you all are using your noggins for this game.
Livin' that mom-life...
Livin' that mom-life...
Bo and Christina-- If you both feel so strongly that Cinnamon is a wolf protecting one of her own then why aren't you voting for her?
I said:
Cinn is probably one of the strongest players in this game right now, and I am very hesitant to vote her off, especially since...I am NOT seeing her as a wolf right now. (all of the above was kind of "devil's advocate" )
As I said in my above post, I was mostly playing devil's advocate...pointing the finger at the least-suspected player as of right now...not really trying to convince anyone of anything, and not set in my mind as to what I think.
Apparently people are missing the fact that I don't "feel strongly" and was merely making "devil's advocate" kind of suggestions. I was putting my mind's questions and thoughts down on paper
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You know Cinn, i've been thinking on that twig of yours... perhaps you should put it back where you found it. It may actually be some sort of special rod one would use to divine things and it's real owner may be looking for it
Oh and my little boy says your banana is saying "Boogata Boogata!!" He thinks its real funny.
Oh and my little boy says your banana is saying "Boogata Boogata!!" He thinks its real funny.
I stand corrected Christina you did indeed clarify yourself in your post. My bad and I apologize
The question still stands for Bo though.
The question still stands for Bo though.
No problem, Mom!
Although, Cinn has not helped lower herself on my suspicion radar by coming back and accusing/voting for me right after I point out why SHE could be a wolf.
However, I am still seeing evidence MORE in Myth's favour as a werewolf, so I'm sticking with him.
When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible. -Nora Ephron
Although, Cinn has not helped lower herself on my suspicion radar by coming back and accusing/voting for me right after I point out why SHE could be a wolf.
However, I am still seeing evidence MORE in Myth's favour as a werewolf, so I'm sticking with him.
When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible. -Nora Ephron
Christina, I don't expect you or anyone to not find me suspicious. I myself find I am suspicious at times.
The reason for voting for you has nothing to do with you pointing out I may be a wolf. You certainly are not the first one in this game to do that. But if you want to believe that, then go ahead. I believe I gave good enough reason to suspect you. If I use your theory and vote for someone who suspected me, Bo would be number 1 on my list, not you.
What evidence are you seeing more of in favor of myth being a wolf? I see plenty of evidence pointing to many others, myself included, than myth. I just don't get it. Maybe someone should poke me a little harder.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
The reason for voting for you has nothing to do with you pointing out I may be a wolf. You certainly are not the first one in this game to do that. But if you want to believe that, then go ahead. I believe I gave good enough reason to suspect you. If I use your theory and vote for someone who suspected me, Bo would be number 1 on my list, not you.
What evidence are you seeing more of in favor of myth being a wolf? I see plenty of evidence pointing to many others, myself included, than myth. I just don't get it. Maybe someone should poke me a little harder.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
To Mom's question:
I guess it is because my suspicions about Cinn was the result of her defense of Myth. It is kind of "one step at a time" strategy I guess. Cinn is a lot of fun and enjoyable in the game, so I don't think a direct attack by voting for her is timely. It may be necessary ultimately.
I could be wrong, but I seriously propose we check Myth out on the next day round. You sometimes have to gamble a bit and the longer the game has went, the stronger I feel Myth is a wolf and Cinn is trying to protect him. I guess I want to find out if I am right before looking at Cinn more closely.
I do think her idea that the rounds were quick because we may have already killed a wolf or two (proposed by Cinn) is a "wolf fantasy" type post. Let's give the humans some false hopes that the first couple rounds of inactive voting actually hit wolves. Check other games and you'll see, almost always the first couple rounds kill humans. Wolves always pitch the "let's knock off the inactives" in my experience and it is an easy strategy to agree with.
I would join in voting for Cinn if a round was heading that way. I think it is better to stick with Myth at this juncture. I think you "Mom" are a human trying to sort out the clues. If Cinn and Myth were wolves, there is still one more to smoke out and I'm not sure who I think it is.
Hope you didn't tire too much waiting for a response Mom. I come and go on here.
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The question still stands for Bo though.
I guess it is because my suspicions about Cinn was the result of her defense of Myth. It is kind of "one step at a time" strategy I guess. Cinn is a lot of fun and enjoyable in the game, so I don't think a direct attack by voting for her is timely. It may be necessary ultimately.
I could be wrong, but I seriously propose we check Myth out on the next day round. You sometimes have to gamble a bit and the longer the game has went, the stronger I feel Myth is a wolf and Cinn is trying to protect him. I guess I want to find out if I am right before looking at Cinn more closely.
I do think her idea that the rounds were quick because we may have already killed a wolf or two (proposed by Cinn) is a "wolf fantasy" type post. Let's give the humans some false hopes that the first couple rounds of inactive voting actually hit wolves. Check other games and you'll see, almost always the first couple rounds kill humans. Wolves always pitch the "let's knock off the inactives" in my experience and it is an easy strategy to agree with.
I would join in voting for Cinn if a round was heading that way. I think it is better to stick with Myth at this juncture. I think you "Mom" are a human trying to sort out the clues. If Cinn and Myth were wolves, there is still one more to smoke out and I'm not sure who I think it is.
Hope you didn't tire too much waiting for a response Mom. I come and go on here.
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Christina_S voted for mythmaster
cinnamon30 voted for Christina_S
dachshund2k3 voted for mythmaster
mythmaster voted for irishsofty
zonahobo voted for mythmaster
Above the votes at 25 hours.
It takes a while to read the posts - we've been busy this morning. Cin kudos for the two long posts - I agree the first is pretty much what I gleaned from rereading - funny we do the same thing sort of. The second sharing. I'm not sure how much time I have before I am off again but I do want to comment - I've been in this little box now over an hour.
Cin posted
Thanks for the compliment - it was my first win as a wolf and I doubt I can ever pull that off again - I was excited. Of course it now plays against me - but I told you before I'm a talker and that has gotten me into a lot of trouble - I really didn't think I'd be here today. Maybe we all expect to be eaten?
As far as flip flopping you did that last game and I just have to trust you'll do the right thing - sometimes folk do and sometimes they don't - I really am not tracking what you are saying about my thinking both persons everyone was split on were probably human - who would I be swaying a vote away from? Don't we know one is human and the other is dead? I'm again sorry I was quick to post the log on screen - however if you look she was not the only person on that screen, and I think I said if I picked her it was cause she had voted for me and never bothered to share why and that she really doesn't participate much. So at this point I say you'll have to keep me in your suspicious list!
Hobo posted -
Cin I've had an uneasy feeling about you - this comment sort of hit the nail on the head. I felt you where wanting but in a back door way for me to prove you innocent. You may seem stronger in lead as Mocha is gone - but that by itself is not enough to say you are wolf - just hints to me of that type of behaving.
Cin posted
Cin I wrote I had to get out to the store and that I was gone during the night round - I can not clear you at all. I can not clear anyone. I only meant interesting as you usually beat me to posting.
I have some suspicions but I've not had the time to really prepare them like Cin has. I'll make an attempt tonight as I should have a few more minutes. I've still got sick kids - it appears to be taking a turn with everyone in my daughter's family - she is now out of town for 4 days and I will not have as much freedom to post. Time is just not there.
I think I've got to think about who I'm voting for and why - to say now is to speak out of turn and I'm just not ready to be all over the place yet. Dach I'm not ready to say I can trust you at this point. smile
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cinnamon30 voted for Christina_S
dachshund2k3 voted for mythmaster
mythmaster voted for irishsofty
zonahobo voted for mythmaster
Above the votes at 25 hours.
It takes a while to read the posts - we've been busy this morning. Cin kudos for the two long posts - I agree the first is pretty much what I gleaned from rereading - funny we do the same thing sort of. The second sharing. I'm not sure how much time I have before I am off again but I do want to comment - I've been in this little box now over an hour.
Cin posted
Zonarita - I have also flip flopped on you as well. I have seen you play as both human and wolf. I have to admit that you are by far the best player I have ever seen play human when you were a wolf. This makes me very leery. However, I can't hold that against you every game either. So based on just this game, I am not convinced that you are a wolf, but I am not entirely convinced you are human either. You were torn between cyndy & girl. We know cyndy is human but are unsure of girl at this point. If you are a wolf, you would know if girl is human or wolf. By stating in this round you think both may be human makes you look more wolfish to try and sway the vote from a fellow wolf. You seemed very quick to make cyndy look very suspicious because of the logon screens. But you also post the screens for everyone, which most wolves wouldn't do. So I am torn on you right now.
Thanks for the compliment - it was my first win as a wolf and I doubt I can ever pull that off again - I was excited. Of course it now plays against me - but I told you before I'm a talker and that has gotten me into a lot of trouble - I really didn't think I'd be here today. Maybe we all expect to be eaten?
As far as flip flopping you did that last game and I just have to trust you'll do the right thing - sometimes folk do and sometimes they don't - I really am not tracking what you are saying about my thinking both persons everyone was split on were probably human - who would I be swaying a vote away from? Don't we know one is human and the other is dead? I'm again sorry I was quick to post the log on screen - however if you look she was not the only person on that screen, and I think I said if I picked her it was cause she had voted for me and never bothered to share why and that she really doesn't participate much. So at this point I say you'll have to keep me in your suspicious list!
Hobo posted -
I do think Cinn much prefers being a human and trying to catch wolves. I also think the luck of the draw may have her as a wolf this game and is trying to steer us away from Myth because of "wolf knowledge" which is more than a feeling. Cinn posted that it was all about winning in an earlier round and I think it was a veiled apology to her chums in this game for being a wolf.
Cin I've had an uneasy feeling about you - this comment sort of hit the nail on the head. I felt you where wanting but in a back door way for me to prove you innocent. You may seem stronger in lead as Mocha is gone - but that by itself is not enough to say you are wolf - just hints to me of that type of behaving.
Cin posted
Rita I just saw your post. Curious as to why you think its interesting I was not on yet, when in fact I am. We simulposted and I have been trying to figure out what to make of it all. I will check back in the morning and see if I can think more clearly.
Edit again: I am assuming that means you are suspicious of me. But for anyone who does take the screen shots of logons, you will undoubtedly be able to prove I am human, as I have not logged on during night, but I don't think I want you to post that info.
Edit again: I am assuming that means you are suspicious of me. But for anyone who does take the screen shots of logons, you will undoubtedly be able to prove I am human, as I have not logged on during night, but I don't think I want you to post that info.
Cin I wrote I had to get out to the store and that I was gone during the night round - I can not clear you at all. I can not clear anyone. I only meant interesting as you usually beat me to posting.
I have some suspicions but I've not had the time to really prepare them like Cin has. I'll make an attempt tonight as I should have a few more minutes. I've still got sick kids - it appears to be taking a turn with everyone in my daughter's family - she is now out of town for 4 days and I will not have as much freedom to post. Time is just not there.
I think I've got to think about who I'm voting for and why - to say now is to speak out of turn and I'm just not ready to be all over the place yet. Dach I'm not ready to say I can trust you at this point. smile
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Well, there's a bit more to work with now. I'm going to be quick now, go to the grocery store (it's 40 degrees right now, but is supposed to drop to -15 or something awful like that so there's no time to lose!) and come back and go through everything I have. I haven't posted as much as I did last game because no one is really jumping out at me as being wolfish. Having five? people cleared really made a big difference (and makes it a whole lot easier to defend people ). No one's jumping out at me now either, maybe I can reason it out a bit.
I've been doing kind of the same thing as Cinnamon did in her first post today to try to keep everything straight, and I have pretty much the same thing she did. (The only difference was that I had dachshund down as being suspicious of zonarita for being the first to go after cyndy, somewhere back in round 2--not a huge difference. And I also have "human duh!" next to my name. Just thought I'd throw that in, for what it's worth It can't hurt, right?) In short, I don't think Cinn's trying to hide anything major.
Myth seems to be the going vote right now, but nothing about him really says wolf. I did think it was strange that he voted for me the second round (the first round vote made sense, even if it was a bit early) but maybe he was just throwing a name out there to get the voting over with and get out of the game. I guess I'm going to have to read over everything again. You could say I'm wavering about him, but nowhere near to being convinced either way.
As Cinn pointed out, the rounds did go quite fast, so maybe we lucked out and girl was a wolf after all? I don't think she was a seer. In round 2 (the only round where she could possibly have divined anyone) she said the following:
I suppose she might have divined Myth at the end of round 1 but what are the odds? She made one post saying that mythmaster sounded suspicious and she didn't have time for the game. I'm more inclined to think she didn't have time for the game and jumped on someone easy than that she had divined Myth as a wolf and just didn't have the time to try to convince us. In short, I doubt she was the seer, but on the off chance that she was, she wasn't a very good one, and probably wouldn't have helped us very much anyway.
All right, I've got to go. I'll be back later.
I've been doing kind of the same thing as Cinnamon did in her first post today to try to keep everything straight, and I have pretty much the same thing she did. (The only difference was that I had dachshund down as being suspicious of zonarita for being the first to go after cyndy, somewhere back in round 2--not a huge difference. And I also have "human duh!" next to my name. Just thought I'd throw that in, for what it's worth It can't hurt, right?) In short, I don't think Cinn's trying to hide anything major.
Myth seems to be the going vote right now, but nothing about him really says wolf. I did think it was strange that he voted for me the second round (the first round vote made sense, even if it was a bit early) but maybe he was just throwing a name out there to get the voting over with and get out of the game. I guess I'm going to have to read over everything again. You could say I'm wavering about him, but nowhere near to being convinced either way.
As Cinn pointed out, the rounds did go quite fast, so maybe we lucked out and girl was a wolf after all? I don't think she was a seer. In round 2 (the only round where she could possibly have divined anyone) she said the following:
I'm just going to go for mythmaster, he does sound suspicious to me.... This game is really active and it is really hard for me because I have to go to school, sorry if i miss a lot guys.
I suppose she might have divined Myth at the end of round 1 but what are the odds? She made one post saying that mythmaster sounded suspicious and she didn't have time for the game. I'm more inclined to think she didn't have time for the game and jumped on someone easy than that she had divined Myth as a wolf and just didn't have the time to try to convince us. In short, I doubt she was the seer, but on the off chance that she was, she wasn't a very good one, and probably wouldn't have helped us very much anyway.
All right, I've got to go. I'll be back later.
Mom, you're son is toooooo cute. I was wondering what the banana was saying. I thought it was afraid to see things a little more clearly and is trying to hide.
I have put the twig away for now, but I may be needing it as a crutch after this round, if I survive.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I have put the twig away for now, but I may be needing it as a crutch after this round, if I survive.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
So Bo, lets see if I understand this. You want to shoot myth this round, and then use the one hint Witty will give us to tell us Myth's identity. You seem so sure he is a wolf. What if he is human? Then what. Am I cleared of suspicion to you and anyone else who claims I am a wolf because I am "protecting" myth?
I can't believe anyone who suspects me, and that is just about everybody whether you have said it out loud or not, would want to keep me around because of my discussions. I am good, but not that good. I am flattered if that is the case though.
Mom, I think my twig turned out to be mocha's nose after all. I think I hear her in the distance calling to us. She is saying I should poke some players a little harder next time.
So here goes: poking Bo really really hard. Maybe it'll knock some sense into him. *runs off shaking in fear of what he will do or say next............
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I can't believe anyone who suspects me, and that is just about everybody whether you have said it out loud or not, would want to keep me around because of my discussions. I am good, but not that good. I am flattered if that is the case though.
Mom, I think my twig turned out to be mocha's nose after all. I think I hear her in the distance calling to us. She is saying I should poke some players a little harder next time.
So here goes: poking Bo really really hard. Maybe it'll knock some sense into him. *runs off shaking in fear of what he will do or say next............
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Mom said:
I said this in round 2:
I hate to make a post simply pointing out why someone was wrong, but I didn't even mention girl in this post. Cyndy and christina were my other suspicions.
In a later post, people were beginning to change their votes away from myth. Therefore I put out some suspicion about girl, just to test the water and see if anyone saw what I did. Cinn, who I know is a very strong player from last game, backed me up. However, you're right. He could be a wolf leading me away from voting for myth. If you believe so strongly in this theory, why don't you vote for myth then. Look who I'm voting for this round! I wanted myth out and now I'm really advocating his death.
I know I've fallen under suspicion for making accusations at all different people, but that's the way I play the game. I see something suspicious, and I point it out; see if anyone else feels the same way. I'm still a pretty new player to Werewolf: this is only like my fifth game. I see myself as (like cinn said) the middle ground. You have these powerhouse players like rita, hobo, and cinn, and I'm a little below them. However, I'm proud to say that I'm not inactive and contribute to this game at any moment I can.
Maybe I did move away from cinn. An alliance with anybody in this game probably isn't the best idea. I have no idea if cinn is a wolf, but I also have no suspicions about him (except for the fact that I have no suspicions). Cinn is a powerful player who really contributes to his discussion. However, just thinking about it now, I do have some suspicions. Exhibit A: the lists. In the last game, we debated several times about mocha being a wolf because he posted the lists clearing people. We eventually landed on the fact that he was human. Is cinn a wolf trying to follow the same strategy?
Hope this clears up some of what I said?
And c'mon rita...you know you want to trust me
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Dach-- what do you mean once again you want to vote for myth? In the last round you mentioned something about him but then you brought up girl as suspicious in the very same post.. When Cinn jumped on that and voted you Immeditley followed suit and cast your vote. What were you doing Fishing for Cinn's opinion and approval before you acted? And again in this round you brought up Irish as suspicious in the same post that you only mentioned myth. You may be the first to "place" suspicion on someone but if you ask me if any one is playing follow the leader it's you. As a matter of fact i am somewhat leaning to the possibility that your vote this round for myth is to seperate yourself not only from myth but Cinn as well (who has now come under fire.)
I said this in round 2:
Mythmaster, you don't sound very enthusiastic about our game. I remember a certain wolf in our last game had the same strategy. A little "Fine! Go ahead and shoot me!"...
And those who don't wish to participate only hinder the humans. Therefore my vote goes to mythmaster (unless more evidence comes out against cyndy or christina)
And your post:
That's not really a good reason to vote for someone. Just because you fished for them in the first round doesn't mean they are a wolf and that you vote for them again...
And those who don't wish to participate only hinder the humans. Therefore my vote goes to mythmaster (unless more evidence comes out against cyndy or christina)
And your post:
I'll go huffle again for the heck of it.
That's not really a good reason to vote for someone. Just because you fished for them in the first round doesn't mean they are a wolf and that you vote for them again...
I hate to make a post simply pointing out why someone was wrong, but I didn't even mention girl in this post. Cyndy and christina were my other suspicions.
In a later post, people were beginning to change their votes away from myth. Therefore I put out some suspicion about girl, just to test the water and see if anyone saw what I did. Cinn, who I know is a very strong player from last game, backed me up. However, you're right. He could be a wolf leading me away from voting for myth. If you believe so strongly in this theory, why don't you vote for myth then. Look who I'm voting for this round! I wanted myth out and now I'm really advocating his death.
I know I've fallen under suspicion for making accusations at all different people, but that's the way I play the game. I see something suspicious, and I point it out; see if anyone else feels the same way. I'm still a pretty new player to Werewolf: this is only like my fifth game. I see myself as (like cinn said) the middle ground. You have these powerhouse players like rita, hobo, and cinn, and I'm a little below them. However, I'm proud to say that I'm not inactive and contribute to this game at any moment I can.
Maybe I did move away from cinn. An alliance with anybody in this game probably isn't the best idea. I have no idea if cinn is a wolf, but I also have no suspicions about him (except for the fact that I have no suspicions). Cinn is a powerful player who really contributes to his discussion. However, just thinking about it now, I do have some suspicions. Exhibit A: the lists. In the last game, we debated several times about mocha being a wolf because he posted the lists clearing people. We eventually landed on the fact that he was human. Is cinn a wolf trying to follow the same strategy?
Hope this clears up some of what I said?
And c'mon rita...you know you want to trust me
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~~Albert Einstein
Careful thar Cinn. You'll knocks me into Pirate talk says I. Quick, best ye whack again and gets me back to me human form as you'll tire quick of this Pirate lingo...
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If I was sure about Myth, I wouldn't want to waste our one help from Witty confirming it. It is a calculated guess, but a guess none the less.
If you get eaten by the wolves, I'll look pretty foolish Cinn. You haven't pushed too hard on me being a wolf, yet. If you did, it would be the same for you if I get eaten.
I expect to be a wolf snack soon. I doubt if I'll be around for an end game so I need to get all my suspicions out front and center as I have held cards before and never got to play them after the wolves struck. Huffle might be third on my suuspicion list (playing my cards.. ).
Those are my best guesses so far.
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If I was sure about Myth, I wouldn't want to waste our one help from Witty confirming it. It is a calculated guess, but a guess none the less.
If you get eaten by the wolves, I'll look pretty foolish Cinn. You haven't pushed too hard on me being a wolf, yet. If you did, it would be the same for you if I get eaten.
I expect to be a wolf snack soon. I doubt if I'll be around for an end game so I need to get all my suspicions out front and center as I have held cards before and never got to play them after the wolves struck. Huffle might be third on my suuspicion list (playing my cards.. ).
Those are my best guesses so far.
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well as it seems i cant really place the wolf but i do believe myth is a strong canidate to b 1 an the fact he voted for me this round also makes him suspicious as he sall other saying my name so he might b tryin to get rid of me as he thinks its his best chance to survive so based on that i think i will vote for myth as i belive he is a wolf.
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Well, I am off to bed. Doesn't look like much going on. Hopefully, something will surface after a good nights sleep and maybe some of my fellow humans will see more clearly what I have been trying to say. So maybe all is not lost.
Good night all.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Good night all.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Once again, irish has jumped on the majority bandwagon...in case you didn't notice.
G'night...hope tomorrow is better.
I want to see what mom has to say in response to my rebuke
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~~Albert Einstein
G'night...hope tomorrow is better.
I want to see what mom has to say in response to my rebuke
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~~Albert Einstein
lets c if someone is accusing u of bein a wolf im sure ud b suspicious of them also. If u want my opinion y he is a wolf id say hes tryin to confuse all of us . And tryin to get eachother to turn on are fellow humans but i guess ure opinion is ure opinion so ill leave it at that.
Actually Dach , this is the post I was referencing to:
Posted: 04:57PM Jan 26, 2008
I understand the restraint of you guys about voting for mythmaster. Rascal said it best:
it gives the wolves a potential free pass if myth isn't a wolf.
However, isn't inactivity and nonchalantness (is that a word?) the reason we shot minlo?
And now my suspicions turn to girl63160. In round one she said
I think we should go with a majority vote this round though. So, does anyone know who was the first to vote? I saw it, but forgot to remember the name... If someone remembers that, I think I will vote for that person just because of voting first. Of course, I will look more and see if there's anyone else who seems suspicious.
And this round:
I'm just going to go for mythmaster, he does sound suspicious to me....
Does this sound like rascal's wolf strategy to anyone? However, I don't think I'll vote for you just yet.
And I'd like to apologize for any past and future accusations...we're all just trying to protect ourselves
I was comparing that post to the post you made this round where you said :
And you know dachs I really don't have a problem testing out my theory and voting for myth because I kind of agree with hobo.. If i'm wrong well frankly, i'd rather lose myth than Cinn. No offense myth
Maybe the best way to go right now is Hobo's line of reasoning-- shoot myth and divine his identity.
Edited to add: If we're wrong than Cinn can whack us all with her twig!!
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Posted: 04:57PM Jan 26, 2008
I understand the restraint of you guys about voting for mythmaster. Rascal said it best:
it gives the wolves a potential free pass if myth isn't a wolf.
However, isn't inactivity and nonchalantness (is that a word?) the reason we shot minlo?
And now my suspicions turn to girl63160. In round one she said
I think we should go with a majority vote this round though. So, does anyone know who was the first to vote? I saw it, but forgot to remember the name... If someone remembers that, I think I will vote for that person just because of voting first. Of course, I will look more and see if there's anyone else who seems suspicious.
And this round:
I'm just going to go for mythmaster, he does sound suspicious to me....
Does this sound like rascal's wolf strategy to anyone? However, I don't think I'll vote for you just yet.
And I'd like to apologize for any past and future accusations...we're all just trying to protect ourselves
I was comparing that post to the post you made this round where you said :
I want to place some suspicion on irish. He seems to post at least once per round, in order not to be deemed inactive, but other than that he doesn't post at all. He also changes his vote without warning, post, or reason (though the 3 go hand in hand in hand ).
However, I'm really too tired to argue right now. I'm going to go to sleep and come back after school tomorrow. However, I will throw in a vote for mythmaster, for reasons stated by myself and zonahobo this round and last. (We're writing a novel again! Look how long last round's discussion is!) This is my sleepy face: Looks like I'm falling asleep at the keyboard
However, I'm really too tired to argue right now. I'm going to go to sleep and come back after school tomorrow. However, I will throw in a vote for mythmaster, for reasons stated by myself and zonahobo this round and last. (We're writing a novel again! Look how long last round's discussion is!) This is my sleepy face: Looks like I'm falling asleep at the keyboard
And you know dachs I really don't have a problem testing out my theory and voting for myth because I kind of agree with hobo.. If i'm wrong well frankly, i'd rather lose myth than Cinn. No offense myth
Maybe the best way to go right now is Hobo's line of reasoning-- shoot myth and divine his identity.
Edited to add: If we're wrong than Cinn can whack us all with her twig!!
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Well in an effort to save myself and because it seems that there is at least a shadow of suspicion thrown towards her I will change my vote to Christina.
I see Myth would like to stay in the game a bit longer. I respect that.
I did just notice a comment by Christina_S (reviewing her posts today) that gives me a little more pause to reflect. I was around and when the round changed (Zonarita was on a shopping run) and did take a screen shot of who was still on.
Christina_S wrote:
The screen shot showed Christina_S on the system during the last 30 minutes after the round changed. So, did mom give you a little break on the computer Christina? Maybe someone was using your log-on? I'm not big on the screen shot tells, but this is a bit troubling to me.
Myth could be human and Cinn is just being independant Cinn. Some people are just not followers. I think Christina_S might have been a bit forgetful about her computer access yesterday. Let's not cook Myth's goose just yet.
I know, very frustrating for some of you willing to shoot and check Myth as I proposed but Christina needs to explain her post. It just doesn't square with the facts off the system.
I'm taking my vote off Myth and putting it safely on myself as a temporary vote. Hate for him to go down without hearing more from Christina.
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I did just notice a comment by Christina_S (reviewing her posts today) that gives me a little more pause to reflect. I was around and when the round changed (Zonarita was on a shopping run) and did take a screen shot of who was still on.
Christina_S wrote:
Teehee...my GOSH night went fast...and my mom was using my computer ALL day yesterday (for doing taxes) so I was unable to log-on.
The screen shot showed Christina_S on the system during the last 30 minutes after the round changed. So, did mom give you a little break on the computer Christina? Maybe someone was using your log-on? I'm not big on the screen shot tells, but this is a bit troubling to me.
Myth could be human and Cinn is just being independant Cinn. Some people are just not followers. I think Christina_S might have been a bit forgetful about her computer access yesterday. Let's not cook Myth's goose just yet.
I know, very frustrating for some of you willing to shoot and check Myth as I proposed but Christina needs to explain her post. It just doesn't square with the facts off the system.
I'm taking my vote off Myth and putting it safely on myself as a temporary vote. Hate for him to go down without hearing more from Christina.
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*blinks rapidly*
Wow. lol. After MUCH reflecting and wondering HOW THE HECK that could be...(because I really was not on at all yesterday) I think I know why...
I use Firefox as my internet browser, and I have it set to pull up 4 tabs whenever I open a new window (like...I have 4 home pages) I have google, Yahoo, Braingle and another forum. On Braingle and this other forum, I have the little "remember me" box checked so whenever I go to that site, it automatically signs me in. So as far as I can see...my mom pulled up my internet browser, thereby bringing up my Braingle page, and it signed me in.
(my mom uses TurboTax to do her taxes...so she has to get on the internet to use it)
That is the only plausible explanation I can think of...because I truthfully did not have a chance to get on Braingle yesterday
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Wow. lol. After MUCH reflecting and wondering HOW THE HECK that could be...(because I really was not on at all yesterday) I think I know why...
I use Firefox as my internet browser, and I have it set to pull up 4 tabs whenever I open a new window (like...I have 4 home pages) I have google, Yahoo, Braingle and another forum. On Braingle and this other forum, I have the little "remember me" box checked so whenever I go to that site, it automatically signs me in. So as far as I can see...my mom pulled up my internet browser, thereby bringing up my Braingle page, and it signed me in.
(my mom uses TurboTax to do her taxes...so she has to get on the internet to use it)
That is the only plausible explanation I can think of...because I truthfully did not have a chance to get on Braingle yesterday
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Sorry to put you on the spot Christina, but I had to report what I saw. I guess that explanation is plausable as my Braingle logs me in too. Could have been a bit of bad timing by your Mom I guess. I just use IE myself but have run Firefox too.
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If Girl was a wolf:
cinnamon, dachshund, Christina S, mythmaster, Rascalian and me are not wolves, leaving:
Irishsofty – I do think he decided to vote for cyndy rather quickly and already said I thought he was suspicious because of that, but he did defend mythmaster, who in this scenario would not be a wolf, making it very unlikely that Irishsofty would be a wolf either because why would a wolf defend someone he knows is human, especially when that human is already suspect and would be easy to pick off?
mom2ozzy – She was the first to go for cyndy (though cyndy's name had been thrown around before) and she did try to throw doubt on the actions of both cinnamon and dachshund, who in this scenario are both wolves
zonohobo – He was the third to vote for cyndy, and also seemed suspicious of myth and cinnamon, also has tried to say that girl might have been the seer, again throwing suspicion on those who voted for girl
zonarita – wavered between girl and cyndy a bit, and said that she thought girl was a good vote too. Granted, she didn't change her vote.
Two of the above would have to be wolves, and I would lean toward mom2ozzy and zonohobo if only because they both tried to throw blame on cinnamon and dachshund for leading the vote on girl, which seems a bit more aggressively wolfish, but maybe zonarita was just lying low?
If Girl was not a wolf:
We're all suspects, so to make it a bit simpler, let's break it down into two categories. Either Mythmaster is a wolf, or Mythmaster is not a wolf (and that's the relevant question now, anyway):
Myth is a wolf
So far, Christina S (2), dachshund (3), irishsofty (4), and zonahobo (1) have voted for myth. I think we can pretty safely assume that none of them are also wolves since they could still sit out and not vote without looking to suspicious. Still, I've added numbers to show the orders of their votes since that might be important. That leaves:
cinnamon – She has certainly defended myth quite strongly, which makes her a strong candidate to be a wolf in this case. She also was quite quick to jump on dachshund's suggestion that girl was suspicious instead of voting for myth.
mom2ozzy – She questioned Myth's first vote for me, though she is new, so maybe she would have questioned even if she was also a wolf. Then again, maybe she would have been extra careful not to question a fellow wolf. Otherwise she has been wavering about Myth and she did choose cyndy over myth. However, if she were a wolf, why choose cyndy in the first place when she could have chosen girl? (Remember that if Myth is a wolf, Girl must be a human—they can't both be wolves unless myth voted for a fellow wolf in round 2). Mom2ozzy is really looking like a human to me in this case.
Rascalian – hasn't posted at all this round, but did just second cinnamon's vote for Christina S. Is it possible that he didn't get a chance to read the posts but went with someone he knew was not a wolf? (Or followed cinnamon, who he knew was a wolf?) I honestly don't have much down for Rascalian, though, so my one little suspicion against him is only that vote against Christina S with no post.
zonarita - I really don't have too much on her, either. She hasn't decided who to vote for yet this round.
In this case I would be most suspicious of cinnamon and Rascalian as being wolves.
Myth is not a wolf:
Christina S – She's certainly been suspicious of Myth for awhile and voted for both girl and myth (who in this scenario are both wolves).
Cinnamon – She's defended Myth quite a bit. I can't imagine that any wolf would defend a non-wolf so strongly, so if Myth is not a wolf, I don't think cinnamon is a wolf either.
Dachshund – He's been suspicious of Myth for a while, but didn't vote for him until this round. If Dach is a wolf, he could easily have voted for Myth before (in this case a human), though perhaps he decided to bring up girl so he didn't appear to be going with the majority) I just don't think Dach is a wolf.
Irishsofty – As I said before, I don't think irish would have been one of the first to defend Myth if Irish was a wolf and Myth was not, so if Myth is not a wolf, than I don't think Irish is a wolf, either.
Mom2Ozzy –
Rascalian – He just voted for Christina S. If he was a wolf it would have made more sense for him to go with Myth.
Zonahobo – Has certainly been quite vehement about condemning Myth as a wolf. Possibly
Zonarita – I still don't have much on Zonarita
All right, I give up. I'm think I'm going to have to reason out the Myth is not a wolf section better tomorrow. I'll try to stop by tomorrow morning if I'm feeling really awake, but otherwise hopefully the rest of you can fill it in. There's not point in trying to reason things out when I'm tired. I haven't found any possible wolves yet. Either Myth is definitely a wolf (if Girl was not a wolf) or I really need some sleep.
As you can see, I've left myself out of the reasoning so far. I think I'd rather just defend myself separately if I have to (and maybe I will ). I'm not fully satisfied with either Myth or Christina as wolves, and I'm too tired to make any sort of intelligent decision right now so I'm hoping the round won't end until I get back from work.
Please point out any faulty reasoning, or anything I've missed. I'm sure there's some of both, especially toward the end.
Good night!
EDIT to make post a tad bit more readable (I hope).
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cinnamon, dachshund, Christina S, mythmaster, Rascalian and me are not wolves, leaving:
Irishsofty – I do think he decided to vote for cyndy rather quickly and already said I thought he was suspicious because of that, but he did defend mythmaster, who in this scenario would not be a wolf, making it very unlikely that Irishsofty would be a wolf either because why would a wolf defend someone he knows is human, especially when that human is already suspect and would be easy to pick off?
mom2ozzy – She was the first to go for cyndy (though cyndy's name had been thrown around before) and she did try to throw doubt on the actions of both cinnamon and dachshund, who in this scenario are both wolves
zonohobo – He was the third to vote for cyndy, and also seemed suspicious of myth and cinnamon, also has tried to say that girl might have been the seer, again throwing suspicion on those who voted for girl
zonarita – wavered between girl and cyndy a bit, and said that she thought girl was a good vote too. Granted, she didn't change her vote.
Two of the above would have to be wolves, and I would lean toward mom2ozzy and zonohobo if only because they both tried to throw blame on cinnamon and dachshund for leading the vote on girl, which seems a bit more aggressively wolfish, but maybe zonarita was just lying low?
If Girl was not a wolf:
We're all suspects, so to make it a bit simpler, let's break it down into two categories. Either Mythmaster is a wolf, or Mythmaster is not a wolf (and that's the relevant question now, anyway):
Myth is a wolf
So far, Christina S (2), dachshund (3), irishsofty (4), and zonahobo (1) have voted for myth. I think we can pretty safely assume that none of them are also wolves since they could still sit out and not vote without looking to suspicious. Still, I've added numbers to show the orders of their votes since that might be important. That leaves:
cinnamon – She has certainly defended myth quite strongly, which makes her a strong candidate to be a wolf in this case. She also was quite quick to jump on dachshund's suggestion that girl was suspicious instead of voting for myth.
mom2ozzy – She questioned Myth's first vote for me, though she is new, so maybe she would have questioned even if she was also a wolf. Then again, maybe she would have been extra careful not to question a fellow wolf. Otherwise she has been wavering about Myth and she did choose cyndy over myth. However, if she were a wolf, why choose cyndy in the first place when she could have chosen girl? (Remember that if Myth is a wolf, Girl must be a human—they can't both be wolves unless myth voted for a fellow wolf in round 2). Mom2ozzy is really looking like a human to me in this case.
Rascalian – hasn't posted at all this round, but did just second cinnamon's vote for Christina S. Is it possible that he didn't get a chance to read the posts but went with someone he knew was not a wolf? (Or followed cinnamon, who he knew was a wolf?) I honestly don't have much down for Rascalian, though, so my one little suspicion against him is only that vote against Christina S with no post.
zonarita - I really don't have too much on her, either. She hasn't decided who to vote for yet this round.
In this case I would be most suspicious of cinnamon and Rascalian as being wolves.
Myth is not a wolf:
Christina S – She's certainly been suspicious of Myth for awhile and voted for both girl and myth (who in this scenario are both wolves).
Cinnamon – She's defended Myth quite a bit. I can't imagine that any wolf would defend a non-wolf so strongly, so if Myth is not a wolf, I don't think cinnamon is a wolf either.
Dachshund – He's been suspicious of Myth for a while, but didn't vote for him until this round. If Dach is a wolf, he could easily have voted for Myth before (in this case a human), though perhaps he decided to bring up girl so he didn't appear to be going with the majority) I just don't think Dach is a wolf.
Irishsofty – As I said before, I don't think irish would have been one of the first to defend Myth if Irish was a wolf and Myth was not, so if Myth is not a wolf, than I don't think Irish is a wolf, either.
Mom2Ozzy –
Rascalian – He just voted for Christina S. If he was a wolf it would have made more sense for him to go with Myth.
Zonahobo – Has certainly been quite vehement about condemning Myth as a wolf. Possibly
Zonarita – I still don't have much on Zonarita
All right, I give up. I'm think I'm going to have to reason out the Myth is not a wolf section better tomorrow. I'll try to stop by tomorrow morning if I'm feeling really awake, but otherwise hopefully the rest of you can fill it in. There's not point in trying to reason things out when I'm tired. I haven't found any possible wolves yet. Either Myth is definitely a wolf (if Girl was not a wolf) or I really need some sleep.
As you can see, I've left myself out of the reasoning so far. I think I'd rather just defend myself separately if I have to (and maybe I will ). I'm not fully satisfied with either Myth or Christina as wolves, and I'm too tired to make any sort of intelligent decision right now so I'm hoping the round won't end until I get back from work.
Please point out any faulty reasoning, or anything I've missed. I'm sure there's some of both, especially toward the end.
Good night!
EDIT to make post a tad bit more readable (I hope).
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Pretty good summary Huffle... However, you say if girl was not a wolf, we're all suspects. Wouldn't the people voting girl be a bit more suspicious as wolves since they took out a more active human than one who wasn't even voting at all?
Other than that, it seems like Cinn has stuck to her defense of Myth. She asks if I would drop my suspicion if she voted Myth. If it looks like we will shoot Myth, Cinn seeing the light when it wouldn't make much difference wouldn't be that convincing.
I guess I started the Myth fire and I should stick around for the marshmellow roast.
I'll put my vote on Myth and stay there. If tide turns against Christina, that is the way the game goes.
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Other than that, it seems like Cinn has stuck to her defense of Myth. She asks if I would drop my suspicion if she voted Myth. If it looks like we will shoot Myth, Cinn seeing the light when it wouldn't make much difference wouldn't be that convincing.
I guess I started the Myth fire and I should stick around for the marshmellow roast.
I'll put my vote on Myth and stay there. If tide turns against Christina, that is the way the game goes.
Join the Zona Force--Dedicated to fun and friendly Braingling!
Why not see it through to the end. At least I know that if I am killed and identified that will lead to the clearing of some people. I don't know if I've ever seen my name written so much or debated about to this extent in a game before .
Reasoning, reasoning. And lots of it, too! I am having an immensely fun time reading over the posts that you all are making. Keep up the deducting!
Livin' that mom-life...
Livin' that mom-life...
Trying to keep up -
The current vote 17 hours to go
dachshund2k3 voted for mythmaster
irishsofty voted for mythmaster
Christina_S voted for mythmaster
cinnamon30 voted for Christina_S
mythmaster voted for Christina_S
Rascalian voted for Christina_S
zonahobo voted for zonahobo (holding his vote back until he makes a decision)
dach posted -
Huffle appreciate your time and logic in posting. I get tripped up in reading and reading again and reading one more time the posts so that I clearly hear what the writer is saying and not what I think they are saying - which could be two different things.
I liked Christina's post - and I'm sure that might also explain the 2nd round post I made -
I see Myth playing the game - I don't know if he is wolf or not.
Christina may be the victum of technology - two times in a row. She could also be a wolf - I feel I have more reason to go that direction than Myth.
Wolf behaviour - who isn't exibiting it?
Another Christina post in round 2
I'm going to bed on these thoughts - see if I have a vote in the morning. I think all the accusations are a good mental workout, but they've left me not convinced yet rereading posts. Sometimes I get the most from just reading all of one person's posts.
Good night.
Celebrate the moment!
The current vote 17 hours to go
dachshund2k3 voted for mythmaster
irishsofty voted for mythmaster
Christina_S voted for mythmaster
cinnamon30 voted for Christina_S
mythmaster voted for Christina_S
Rascalian voted for Christina_S
zonahobo voted for zonahobo (holding his vote back until he makes a decision)
dach posted -
I know I've fallen under suspicion for making accusations at all different people, but that's the way I play the game. I see something suspicious, and I point it out; see if anyone else feels the same way. I'm still a pretty new player to Werewolf: this is only like my fifth game. I see myself as (like cinn said) the middle ground. You have these powerhouse players like rita, hobo, and cinn, and I'm a little below them. However, I'm proud to say that I'm not inactive and contribute to this game at any moment I can.
For the record this is my seventh game - I won one as a wolf and one as a human - (won meaning I've made it to the end) I've been eaten in the first rounds for most of those games -(not much practice in that experience) I wouldn't call me a power house. Bo has the intellect for this site - I'm hanging around to enjoy what I can and maybe learn something while I hang out. Huffle appreciate your time and logic in posting. I get tripped up in reading and reading again and reading one more time the posts so that I clearly hear what the writer is saying and not what I think they are saying - which could be two different things.
I liked Christina's post - and I'm sure that might also explain the 2nd round post I made -
This is a screen shot within 2 min of the end of round one - (I do think Bo took one too. If you've not pulled the players out - you might post the whole screen.)
Online in the last 5 minutes zonahobo, mocha613, WittyKitty, mythmaster, girl63160,
Online in the last 15 minutes Christina_S,
Online in the last 30 minutes cyndy296,
What it means to me - 5 min are probably folks still logged on - Hobo has posted obviously not hidding (He's still doing editor duties so he is usually on all day); mocha is lost to us; Witty our mod; Myth and girl haven't posted here yet. Myth came back and changed his vote - obviously watching game.
If there is a delay before the round ends Christiana and Cyn seem most suspcious - I captured the link before signing on that is why my name is not on the list. In the last game you'll remember my name was posted as I was on when Cin was not.
please share what you glean from the screen shot. We've got to talk as much as we can before everyone goes back into fear mode. Any help you think it has to us and what we really can not get from it.
Online in the last 5 minutes zonahobo, mocha613, WittyKitty, mythmaster, girl63160,
Online in the last 15 minutes Christina_S,
Online in the last 30 minutes cyndy296,
What it means to me - 5 min are probably folks still logged on - Hobo has posted obviously not hidding (He's still doing editor duties so he is usually on all day); mocha is lost to us; Witty our mod; Myth and girl haven't posted here yet. Myth came back and changed his vote - obviously watching game.
If there is a delay before the round ends Christiana and Cyn seem most suspcious - I captured the link before signing on that is why my name is not on the list. In the last game you'll remember my name was posted as I was on when Cin was not.
please share what you glean from the screen shot. We've got to talk as much as we can before everyone goes back into fear mode. Any help you think it has to us and what we really can not get from it.
I see Myth playing the game - I don't know if he is wolf or not.
Christina may be the victum of technology - two times in a row. She could also be a wolf - I feel I have more reason to go that direction than Myth.
Wolf behaviour - who isn't exibiting it?
Another Christina post in round 2
Very good point there, Cinn
As I said in my above post, I was mostly playing devil's advocate...pointing the finger at the least-suspected player as of right now...not really trying to convince anyone of anything, and not set in my mind as to what I think. (thinking aloud )
Maybe I AM a wolf protecting a fellow wolf, in this game there is no use denying things!
So I think, either of our logic could work...maybe we are both wolves!
Again...Myth just seems the most likely candidate for Wolf-ishness...so I'm voting for him as of right now. IF more evidence comes up, or someone posts something that and I'm like "woah, never thought of that!!" my vote may change...
As I said in my above post, I was mostly playing devil's advocate...pointing the finger at the least-suspected player as of right now...not really trying to convince anyone of anything, and not set in my mind as to what I think. (thinking aloud )
Maybe I AM a wolf protecting a fellow wolf, in this game there is no use denying things!
So I think, either of our logic could work...maybe we are both wolves!
Again...Myth just seems the most likely candidate for Wolf-ishness...so I'm voting for him as of right now. IF more evidence comes up, or someone posts something that and I'm like "woah, never thought of that!!" my vote may change...
I'm going to bed on these thoughts - see if I have a vote in the morning. I think all the accusations are a good mental workout, but they've left me not convinced yet rereading posts. Sometimes I get the most from just reading all of one person's posts.
Good night.
Celebrate the moment!
Bo wrote:
Bo you misunderstood what I meant. I will not change my vote to myth at all in this game nor will I vote for you. I'm not asking you to drop your vote for myth either. If myth is the one shot this round and he is the one you choose to find the identity of, which I know will be human, then would you still think I am a wolf? Obviously if I get eaten, you will look foolish. I don't see that happening because as I said, it will prove what I have been saying. It makes more sense for the wolves to keep me one more round to make me look even more guilty.
I am sticking to my defense of myth. Now I don't know about anyone else, but have you ever seen a wolf be so adamant about sticking to someone who many feel are a wolf. I have not. Now that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but something for you all to think about.
Everyone needs to vote for who they think is their best choice, especially if it means keeping them in the game a little longer.
I have said earlier I have not played all my cards on the table this round. However, someone in this game has finally figured out my true identity(human or wolf) with a lot of reason behind it and not just from making accusations. I am unsure of what to think of this person yet. I have thought they were human, but because they have stated which I am, if they are human then it is bad for the humans. However, if they are a wolf, then I am toast this round. There is still some time, so I will await to see what else is said. I may have to put all the cards on the table this round.
Edited for spelling.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Other than that, it seems like Cinn has stuck to her defense of Myth. She asks if I would drop my suspicion if she voted Myth. If it looks like we will shoot Myth, Cinn seeing the light when it wouldn't make much difference wouldn't be that convincing.
Bo you misunderstood what I meant. I will not change my vote to myth at all in this game nor will I vote for you. I'm not asking you to drop your vote for myth either. If myth is the one shot this round and he is the one you choose to find the identity of, which I know will be human, then would you still think I am a wolf? Obviously if I get eaten, you will look foolish. I don't see that happening because as I said, it will prove what I have been saying. It makes more sense for the wolves to keep me one more round to make me look even more guilty.
I am sticking to my defense of myth. Now I don't know about anyone else, but have you ever seen a wolf be so adamant about sticking to someone who many feel are a wolf. I have not. Now that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but something for you all to think about.
Everyone needs to vote for who they think is their best choice, especially if it means keeping them in the game a little longer.
I have said earlier I have not played all my cards on the table this round. However, someone in this game has finally figured out my true identity(human or wolf) with a lot of reason behind it and not just from making accusations. I am unsure of what to think of this person yet. I have thought they were human, but because they have stated which I am, if they are human then it is bad for the humans. However, if they are a wolf, then I am toast this round. There is still some time, so I will await to see what else is said. I may have to put all the cards on the table this round.
Edited for spelling.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Cin, I take it you are telling us you are the seer and that is how you already know Myth is human. I think you are doomed -
I didn't know for sure but I play the game to give the benefit of the doubt pretty freely. If someone wants to play great - why I wasn't voting myth.
round 2 votes
Christina_S voted for girl63160
cinnamon30 voted for girl63160
dachshund2k3 voted for girl63160
GCcrazygurl09 voted for cyndy296
girl63160 voted for cyndy296
Hufflepuffle voted for girl63160
irishsofty voted for cyndy296
Mom2Ozzy voted for cyndy296
mythmaster voted for girl63160
Rascalian voted for girl63160
zonahobo voted for cyndy296
zonarita voted for cyndy296
round 3 votes
Christina_S voted for mythmaster
cinnamon30 voted for Christina_S
dachshund2k3 voted for mythmaster
irishsofty voted for mythmaster
mythmaster voted for Christina_S
Rascalian voted for Christina_S
zonahobo voted for mythmaster
zonarita voted for Christina_S
I voted for Christina cause if Myth voted for her and he's not a wolf he wouldn't know for sure.
Edit - I'll be re reading your thoughts with the respect they deserve - thanks for your hard work. I hope we make it worthwhile.
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Celebrate the moment!
I didn't know for sure but I play the game to give the benefit of the doubt pretty freely. If someone wants to play great - why I wasn't voting myth.
round 2 votes
Christina_S voted for girl63160
cinnamon30 voted for girl63160
dachshund2k3 voted for girl63160
GCcrazygurl09 voted for cyndy296
girl63160 voted for cyndy296
Hufflepuffle voted for girl63160
irishsofty voted for cyndy296
Mom2Ozzy voted for cyndy296
mythmaster voted for girl63160
Rascalian voted for girl63160
zonahobo voted for cyndy296
zonarita voted for cyndy296
round 3 votes
Christina_S voted for mythmaster
cinnamon30 voted for Christina_S
dachshund2k3 voted for mythmaster
irishsofty voted for mythmaster
mythmaster voted for Christina_S
Rascalian voted for Christina_S
zonahobo voted for mythmaster
zonarita voted for Christina_S
I voted for Christina cause if Myth voted for her and he's not a wolf he wouldn't know for sure.
Edit - I'll be re reading your thoughts with the respect they deserve - thanks for your hard work. I hope we make it worthwhile.
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Oh my. I suppose this is what I get for trying to be active...putting myself in the radar *grimaces*
In reference to my second post in round two that you mentioned, Rita...I COULD deny that I'm a wolf for all I'm worth. But as you yourself pointed out, it would do me absolutely no good. I mean...I really don't lie. I would not even lie in a game of werewolf...I never have, and I never will. That is just my personal morals speaking up, whether you believe me or not, it's up to you.
In this game - if you are a wolf - you must lie - so your comment makes no defense. People who would never lie just don't play this game. smile - sorry, just calling it as I see it.
I don't believe you MUST lie if you are a werewolf. I think there are ways to win without lying, that being my personal opinion as I've thought about it quite a bit
Christina may be the victum of technology - two times in a row. She could also be a wolf - I feel I have more reason to go that direction than Myth.
Wolf behaviour - who isn't exibiting it?
I will admit openly that I WAS on when the first night ended. Like I said...I don't lie However, I DO know that I was NOT on at all during the second night, as explained in above posts. Whether you choose to believe or not is up to you.
When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible. -Nora Ephron
In reference to my second post in round two that you mentioned, Rita...I COULD deny that I'm a wolf for all I'm worth. But as you yourself pointed out, it would do me absolutely no good. I mean...I really don't lie. I would not even lie in a game of werewolf...I never have, and I never will. That is just my personal morals speaking up, whether you believe me or not, it's up to you.
Christina wrote -
First off...in defense of myself: Well, I have no defense =P I can't really say anything to prove I'm a human, and not a wolf other than try to be as active as possible. I understand that one must be suspicious of everybody. But I CAN say beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am NOT a wolf. And I don't lie ;)
First off...in defense of myself: Well, I have no defense =P I can't really say anything to prove I'm a human, and not a wolf other than try to be as active as possible. I understand that one must be suspicious of everybody. But I CAN say beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am NOT a wolf. And I don't lie ;)
In this game - if you are a wolf - you must lie - so your comment makes no defense. People who would never lie just don't play this game. smile - sorry, just calling it as I see it.
I don't believe you MUST lie if you are a werewolf. I think there are ways to win without lying, that being my personal opinion as I've thought about it quite a bit
Christina may be the victum of technology - two times in a row. She could also be a wolf - I feel I have more reason to go that direction than Myth.
Wolf behaviour - who isn't exibiting it?
I will admit openly that I WAS on when the first night ended. Like I said...I don't lie However, I DO know that I was NOT on at all during the second night, as explained in above posts. Whether you choose to believe or not is up to you.
When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible. -Nora Ephron
Hi I just wanted to pop in and say hi. I don't have time right this sec to post and don't want to vote till I do so i'll be back in about 30 minutes to do both
Christina posted
Christina - I don't think anyone playing this game or the boss game lies (well, I hope you'll know what I mean)-I do think people are in a role and you play your role or what would be the purpose of playing?
I'm a Christian and a mother - but if I started the game thinking I could not say I am not a wolf - my experience in the game would truly suffer - especially if I were a wolf. I know there are many people on the site who pull the 'I don't lie card' and it just doesn't work in this game - no one is saying you do, or even thinking it. I personally think it makes us look guiltier when we do use that card. I'm saying this for your next game and the one after that. I hope you understand no one is thinking poorly of you. I like you and enjoy playing with you. I do think if I didn't vote for you with the evidence at hand I'd be leaving myself open for eating.
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I would not even lie in a game of werewolf...I never have, and I never will. That is just my personal morals speaking up, whether you believe me or not, it's up to you.
Christina - I don't think anyone playing this game or the boss game lies (well, I hope you'll know what I mean)-I do think people are in a role and you play your role or what would be the purpose of playing?
I'm a Christian and a mother - but if I started the game thinking I could not say I am not a wolf - my experience in the game would truly suffer - especially if I were a wolf. I know there are many people on the site who pull the 'I don't lie card' and it just doesn't work in this game - no one is saying you do, or even thinking it. I personally think it makes us look guiltier when we do use that card. I'm saying this for your next game and the one after that. I hope you understand no one is thinking poorly of you. I like you and enjoy playing with you. I do think if I didn't vote for you with the evidence at hand I'd be leaving myself open for eating.
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I will await to see what Mom has to say before I make another post this round. If no one else votes before her, I should have time since her vote won't end the round.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Cin - I'm sorry for putting it on the table like that - you aluded to it so much the last round I was sure you'd be eaten. I don't see how anyone didn't get it this round and you could not have been plainer with Bo - He and Myth are both clean and the way the wolves play now - they eat the known humans - that's why I've not posted that kind of info this game. Rethinking my stragey for the next time. I hope you'll tell us everything you know if there is more than what you've posted this round.
Edit - I've got to go answer interview questions - so I'll be gone a little from the game. (my sickos are till in bed - for the moment)
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Celebrate the moment!
Edit - I've got to go answer interview questions - so I'll be gone a little from the game. (my sickos are till in bed - for the moment)
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Celebrate the moment!
Thanks Rita. I wondered if anyone picked up on it all. I tried to be as witty as I could about it, but not once did anyone ever suggest I may be the seer. I mean, when someone puts their neck out for someone, it has to be one of 2 possibilities: A wolf protecting a wolf or seer protecting human.
From Round 1 I have alluded to my identity. Since mom outed me this round, who I thought for sure knew since round 1, I am wondering if she is a wolf after all. I would like to think a fellow human would not have been so obvious about it. It may be the fact she is still new to the game, but was very smart in figuring it out.
With all that said, I am the SEER. I divined myth as human in Round 1. I divined Bo as human in Round 2. I tried my best to get some of you to see that without being so obvious, but I guess I am not that good.
As for my vote for Christina, I have no idea whether she is human or wolf. My plan was to shoot her this round, hope for cyndy to get eaten and divine Huffle this round. If Huffle turned out to be human, then it would have left a smaller list to choose who the wolves are. If Huffle is a wolf, it makes sense for Christina to be a wolf as she was pretty adamant about voting for myth because he voted for huffle twice. Looks like she tried to shift her wolfish behaviour to myth, but of course i tried to stop it, which in turn made me look even more guilty. Sorry myth. I may have doomed you and Bo for the next rounds to be eaten, but it is worth the sacrafice.
So in short, here is what I have:
Known humans - mocha, GCcrazy, cyndy, cinnamon, myth, Bo
Possible wolves - Christina, dachshund, Huffle, irish, Mom & zonarita
Unsure of both minlo & girl.
Since all this has come out, I have doubted the idea of Mom as human as she so blatantly outed me. I have also been suspicious of dach, but as my first long post this round, I still feel Christina is my first choice. Plus if Huffle is human, to me it would prove Christina is human as well.
Now it is up to all of you humans left to go back over all my info and win this game for the humans. I am sure I will be the one eaten as I have now laid all my cards on the table.
It was an enjoyable game and I am sad to leave at this point. Plus I won't be able to tell you if Huffle is human or wolf, as she is the one I am divining.
Edited for better reading.
Edit again: Just because rita has outright said I am the seer, don't think that she may not be a wolf. I still am undecided about her too. I wouldn't think rita would do that either. No one other than mom alluded to me being the seer this round. Now since rita has made it so obvious, as it wasn't to anyone else even though I have tried, she may be using this to cover herself as wolf.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
From Round 1 I have alluded to my identity. Since mom outed me this round, who I thought for sure knew since round 1, I am wondering if she is a wolf after all. I would like to think a fellow human would not have been so obvious about it. It may be the fact she is still new to the game, but was very smart in figuring it out.
With all that said, I am the SEER. I divined myth as human in Round 1. I divined Bo as human in Round 2. I tried my best to get some of you to see that without being so obvious, but I guess I am not that good.
As for my vote for Christina, I have no idea whether she is human or wolf. My plan was to shoot her this round, hope for cyndy to get eaten and divine Huffle this round. If Huffle turned out to be human, then it would have left a smaller list to choose who the wolves are. If Huffle is a wolf, it makes sense for Christina to be a wolf as she was pretty adamant about voting for myth because he voted for huffle twice. Looks like she tried to shift her wolfish behaviour to myth, but of course i tried to stop it, which in turn made me look even more guilty. Sorry myth. I may have doomed you and Bo for the next rounds to be eaten, but it is worth the sacrafice.
So in short, here is what I have:
Known humans - mocha, GCcrazy, cyndy, cinnamon, myth, Bo
Possible wolves - Christina, dachshund, Huffle, irish, Mom & zonarita
Unsure of both minlo & girl.
Since all this has come out, I have doubted the idea of Mom as human as she so blatantly outed me. I have also been suspicious of dach, but as my first long post this round, I still feel Christina is my first choice. Plus if Huffle is human, to me it would prove Christina is human as well.
Now it is up to all of you humans left to go back over all my info and win this game for the humans. I am sure I will be the one eaten as I have now laid all my cards on the table.
It was an enjoyable game and I am sad to leave at this point. Plus I won't be able to tell you if Huffle is human or wolf, as she is the one I am divining.
Edited for better reading.
Edit again: Just because rita has outright said I am the seer, don't think that she may not be a wolf. I still am undecided about her too. I wouldn't think rita would do that either. No one other than mom alluded to me being the seer this round. Now since rita has made it so obvious, as it wasn't to anyone else even though I have tried, she may be using this to cover herself as wolf.
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Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
Boy everytime i think i'm onto something new evidence pops up that makes me say WHOA!
At first i was considering that cinn and myth were in cahoots but now i'm not so sure in light of the new speculations... My contenders for wolf this round have been Cinn (pack leader) myth dach hobo(pack leader) and christina
Earlier it was suggested that we shoot myth find out his idenity which would clear or condeem Cinn but since it has been put out there with a heavy hint by Cinn that she is the seer we can just wait and see if the wolfs eat her to clear her Sad but true.
Christina i'm not so sure of your defense
I would think that if one was playing this game they would not have the remember me box checked and as far as saying you don't have to lie in this game if you are wolf you would have to otherwise I could just flat out ask you in every future game " Are you a wolf" and you would have to honestly answer me yes or no
I have no more time to spare and am writing this in the few minutes i have so sorry if my reasoning is not too consice
my vote goes to Christina
At first i was considering that cinn and myth were in cahoots but now i'm not so sure in light of the new speculations... My contenders for wolf this round have been Cinn (pack leader) myth dach hobo(pack leader) and christina
Earlier it was suggested that we shoot myth find out his idenity which would clear or condeem Cinn but since it has been put out there with a heavy hint by Cinn that she is the seer we can just wait and see if the wolfs eat her to clear her Sad but true.
Christina i'm not so sure of your defense
I would think that if one was playing this game they would not have the remember me box checked and as far as saying you don't have to lie in this game if you are wolf you would have to otherwise I could just flat out ask you in every future game " Are you a wolf" and you would have to honestly answer me yes or no
I have no more time to spare and am writing this in the few minutes i have so sorry if my reasoning is not too consice
my vote goes to Christina
ps i actually did not get that you were the seer till you all but came out and said it when i said wat i did about your twig i was still joking around
Well either way mom, after your post no one still picked up on it. I am absolutely shocked that no one has ever suggested it. All the clues are there.
I look forward to meeting you all in another challenge.
I have played 13 games, including this one, and have never been a wolf. This is my first as seer and I have to say, the role of SEER is by far the hardest one ever.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
I look forward to meeting you all in another challenge.
I have played 13 games, including this one, and have never been a wolf. This is my first as seer and I have to say, the role of SEER is by far the hardest one ever.
Knowledge is not power. The USE of knowledge is power.
aw, well it looks like I am going to get shot. I don't really have any other defense/accusations other than what I've already stated
I suppose you guys will just have to find out I'm human all on your own
I am still going to follow this game to see how it turns out!
When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible. -Nora Ephron
I suppose you guys will just have to find out I'm human all on your own
I am still going to follow this game to see how it turns out!
When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible. -Nora Ephron
Well Mom2Ozzy the reason I blow in and out like wind is b/c I have a very hectic schedule with working full time and going to school full time. I barely have anytime to come on and read all of the entries.
I am going with everyone on this round.
I am going with everyone on this round.
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