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Who's the Boss Game #2986

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Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 6 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

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ShadowsAca


Posted: 08:25PM Jul 18, 2013

Welcome to Round 2! Sorry to see Gizzer, Jayo, and Skybet go.

Here's the new clearing clue. By the way, last round's clue is still applicable.

What do the three parts of the clue have in common?

Part 1



Part 2 (if you're wondering why it took so long for the round to start, it's because I had too much fun making this one)



Part 3



I might offer a hint for each of the three parts later.


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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 08:43PM Jul 18, 2013

I am not so sure who these clues point to. Anyhoo, safety for buu441 again. I can't help it, but the memo just sounds alot like buu.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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extremebluenesscus


Posted: 08:48PM Jul 18, 2013

Ok. Since the first round clue is still applicable, and it was a toss-up between me and Skybet, and Skybet's out, that means that I'm innocent.

The first image is of Muaveine A. Muaveine is also called aniline purple and Perkin's muave. I don't know who said the quote in the second one, but it shares ideas with Schroedinger's theories (his cat theory). The third one is Rule, Britannia! I can't figure out who it refers to, but those are the facts given to me with the aid of Google Images (thank you Google!).

And looks like jervis is cleared - Gizzer voted for him, and is out.


"Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will." -Romans 12:2
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extremebluenesscus


Posted: 08:49PM Jul 18, 2013

Also, my prime suspect before jervis was prime suspect was StewieGriffin. Voting for stewie.

"Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will." -Romans 12:2
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froggyggAus


Posted: 09:45PM Jul 18, 2013

Sorry to see Gizzer (probably our best puzzle solver), Jayo, and Skybet gone.

As for the clue, I have no idea. At least we know that jervis is now cleared.

I'm going to lodge a vote for changhill so as not to be a mandatory. I'll keep check back to see if anyone has come up with an answer to either of the clues since Shady didn't say we had the first one correct - I knew it was too easy!


SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 09:56PM Jul 18, 2013

extremeblueness wrote:
Ok. Since the first round clue is still applicable, and it was a toss-up between me and Skybet, and Skybet's out, that means that I'm innocent.


Sorry but shadys clues aren't that easy

Sad to see some strong players go. I think I'll vote for froggy for now and look at this clue.


Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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jervisAau


Posted: 10:32PM Jul 18, 2013

We can work this one out if we work together. Aniline purple sounds like a chemical indicator. Perhaps the person who discovered its use could be the hint, or its pH range or just its colour.
I thought of confuscious '1hand clapping' when I saw the second part.
I am useless with music. Great to see you were able to identify it. Perhaps km or another musical person can help here. Does that piece of music hold anything unique or special? Who composed it?

I have a suspicion that they all might be pointing to kmrutledge but need to get a better understanding of how all 3 things relate to each other. Maybe a person, name or place?

I will vote for extremeblueness now to ensure I don't get fired. If we want a majority on extreme, then I can switch later.
@extreme, I'm not willing to jump the gun just yet on clearing you from the first clue.
Also it is likely that I'm clear. The only way I'd say I wasn't was if Gizzer was my rat. The only way to clear me in that instance would for her to get fired. However. I'm not the boss and so I believe the rat is still among us or was mandatory fired.
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extremebluenesscus


Posted: 10:33PM Jul 18, 2013

at least we know the sum of the whole for this clue.

"Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will." -Romans 12:2
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extremebluenesscus


Posted: 10:38PM Jul 18, 2013

jervis wrote:
We can work this one out if we work together. Aniline purple sounds like a chemical indicator. Perhaps the person who discovered its use could be the hint, or its pH range or just its colour.
I thought of confuscious '1hand clapping' when I saw the second part.
I am useless with music. Great to see you were able to identify it. Perhaps km or another musical person can help here. Does that piece of music hold anything unique or special? Who composed it?

I have a suspicion that they all might be pointing to kmrutledge but need to get a better understanding of how all 3 things relate to each other. Maybe a person, name or place? fired.


Rule, Britannia! could be a reference to Great Britain. In which case my first guess is kmrutledge because of his avatar. And I didn't recognize it - Google Images did. William Henry Perkin discovered it, and its used as a dye.

Lets figure out the second part. We know what it is, but what could it be referring to?

edit: Did you see the list? Gizzer did get fired.


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"Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will." -Romans 12:2
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 11:11PM Jul 18, 2013

The first part points to Mauveine A which was created by William Henry Perkin when given a challenge by his professor. It is a dye for silk and other textiles. It is the part of a mixture that contains 3 other parts.

The quote is a philosophical thought experiment that raises questions regarding observation and knowledge of reality.

Rule, Britannia! Is a British patriotic song, originating from the poem written by James Thompson and set to music by Thomas Arne in 1740. Associated with the Royal Navy and British army.

I found all of this on Wikipedia
Mauveine
If a tree falls in a Forrest
Rule, Britannia!


I'm back
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changhill*us


Posted: 11:33PM Jul 18, 2013

Not sure where people are making progress... Only minor thing I might want to add that the painting used in the second part can be found here: Click Here

Other than that safety on Buu


*rawr*
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buu441Ain


Posted: 12:34AM Jul 19, 2013

if the gizzer firing didn't clear jervis, i was actually gonna vote for him. the post of his was a bit like last game (but that was towards the later rounds). like he is putting himself on the firing line...

i like schrodinger's cat. the thought experiment is really interesting. other than that, i really can't contribute much to the clue. i dunno much about the musical piece.

safety on 21k on my way in. might switch to a majority later on.


Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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jervisAau


Posted: 01:50AM Jul 19, 2013

Ok so names we have are:
William Perkins -chemist (1856) -mauveine
Paul Cezanne -painter ignoring this.
George Berkeley (most likely) -philosopher
James Thomson -poet
Thomas Arne -composer (1740)

Edit: ok so perhaps on the right track with Perkins, Berkeley and Thomson. The years for each of these 'works' are quite different but date back a few hundred years. (Again doing this from phone so hard to work through it without having multiple pages open.)

I'm pretty sure 'Berkeley' is a university in the US.


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ShadowsAca


Posted: 03:03AM Jul 19, 2013

Looks like you don't need any hints for this one. I will say this, though -- ignore the painting in the second part. I randomly chose a pretty picture from the My Pictures folder on my computer in a moment of aesthetic inspiration. I'm impressed that you managed to find it, chang, even after I blurred it to draw more attention to the quote itself. Do you like Impressionism? Silly question, really; most people do these days. Not so in its early years.

Goodnight! (Probably closer to "Good morning!" for most of you.)
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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 04:02AM Jul 19, 2013


I have heard that philosophy many times in my music A-Level class, the 'joke' version being: If a woman argues in a forest, and no one is around to hear it, is she still wrong?

At first I thought it might point to me, being that the last two images refer to sound and music, and Britain, but the first image is throwing me off.

Will think some more on this a little later.

I will join on the votes for buu441.


Beaches and Fire, tis all I need right now!
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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 07:31AM Jul 19, 2013

Jervis wrote:
We can work this one out if we work together.


I agree that on a clue like this we DO need to work together.

I don't know much about what the clue might mean, or what it is pointing too.

I guess I will vote for buu since it is a semi majority.
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EliosAus


Posted: 09:20AM Jul 19, 2013

Wow, guys, good job figuring out each element of this clue! I'm not sure I'll be any good figuring out how they tie in with each other, or who they clear, but I'll see what I can do. I have today off of work (yay!) but I have to go to the dentist in a few hours (noo!).

In @ 8 hrs I'll be driving to my parents' house, and just in case I don't get back on, I don't want to forget to vote! So I'll go ahead and log in a vote for buu as well.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 11:43AM Jul 19, 2013

I will go with majority and vote buu.

I think I figured out the clue

queen Victoria wore an aniline dyed dress to the royal exhibition in 1862.
George Berkeley lived in England
Rule, Britannia is British.

so all three connect to the united kingdom which is where Fleetwood mac is from.

Which connects to Fleetwood_38.


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I'm back
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changhill*us


Posted: 01:02PM Jul 19, 2013

@shadows, I had a little help but I am just a surprised as you. I am a fan or art and music, but I am a quite a bit more left brained so I love to analyze works, but don't have the grasp I think I could if I was more right-brained. I will keep my vote.

I ran this morning so I am a bit wiped. Gonna take a much needed nap and make at least another post on my thoughts.


*rawr*
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extremebluenesscus


Posted: 01:47PM Jul 19, 2013

I'm staying with Stewie

"Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will." -Romans 12:2
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 02:38PM Jul 19, 2013

Well, Sorry for missing most of this round, But I had a super busy day and when I got home, I ended up falling asleep. However I am in no way clear headed right now, so I will join in the maj and clear buu.

Great work jervis.

Stewie.


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 03:05PM Jul 19, 2013

21k that's very possible, though I don't see how we would know to make the connection to fleetwood mac

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 03:37PM Jul 19, 2013

I Connected the clues to Fleetwood mac by looking at the players name and information since we had started to figure out the clues. I figured with the third clue that had to point to Britain so I went back to the other clues and found Britain connections there to. I noticed fleetwood_38's name and searched Fleetwood mac since that is a popular band and I thought that maybe that could be the connection to a player if they were from Britain since there really isn't any dates to connect to.

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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 04:23PM Jul 19, 2013

Well I am not saying I am the boss (obviously) but my name has nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac.

Everyone thinks that, but it really doesn't.

If that's what the clue points to then it was probably directed towards me though.


Vote remains for buu.
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jervisAau


Posted: 06:35PM Jul 19, 2013

Stewie, I didnt really do any of the work.
Kaldridge, I think your answers could actually point to PianistChris from Gibraltar?? My history isn't too good but I think Gibralrar is part of Britain? I also read that Victoria were mauve to her daughters wedding. Which is what made mauve a sought after colour and made Perkins rich!!

I looked up Dr Who on wiki and couldn't find any matches to the names Perkin, Berkeley or Thomson. The only connection is they are all British and so is the Dr Who program. So very weak connection to kmrutledge.

Weak connection between these 3 names is to do with their first names: William, George and James. All names of British Kings. If that is the link, I'm not sure who it would point to.

Edit: see below. I should have been looking at Arne the composer and not Thomson the poet. It was a sheet of music which is why I checked on Arne.


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jervisAau


Posted: 07:07PM Jul 19, 2013

Froggygg is CLEARED!

I double checked Arne and noticed he was born and died in March. Checked Perkin, he was born March 12... Checked Berkeley, he was born March 12... Went back to Arne, born March 12.

Conclusion... March 12 is also Froggygg's birthday


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jervisAau


Posted: 07:23PM Jul 19, 2013

Voting list. Not good coz I'm using phone.


Kmrutledge --> buu
Fleetwood__38 --> buu
StewieGriffin --> buu
Elios --> buu
PianistChris --> buu
Changhill --> buu
21kaldridge21 --> buu

Buu441 --> kaldridge
Freakshow07 --> froggy
Extremeblueness --> Stewie
Froggygg --> changhill
jervis --> extreme


FROGGY please stay safe this round.
Great work everyone. If buu is boss he will be fired!! Good luck!! Not much time left to state votes (~1 hour)


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changhill*us


Posted: 09:43PM Jul 19, 2013

Sorry I didn't get to post sooner. I thought my softball game was at 8, but it was at 7.

Glad to hear that we have a cleared.


*rawr*
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 11:02PM Jul 19, 2013

Yeah, jervis, you got it.

For future reference, to determine whether a potential solution makes logical sense, try thinking backwards. In this case, it's easy to tie pretty much anything to Britain, but if I had intended Britain to be the commonality, I wouldn't very well have thought, "Hmm, Britain... Well, Queen Victoria was a monarch of Britain, and once, she wore a dress of a certain colour to an arbitrary event, and there was this dude that discovered a cheap way to dye textiles that colour, so I think I'm going to use the chemical structure of the new dye as an element of the clue." Catch my drift? Nice try though.

Similarly, if I had wanted the Round 1 clue to point to Skybet or extremeblueness via the blue sky connection (I'm not saying it can't point to blue via other connections, though), I wouldn't have thought, "I think I'm going to find a photo of a beautiful blue sky. Oh, and put a face at either end of the photo, just for kicks / to annoy myself with technology / to freak Elios out."

Anyway, carry on.


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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 11:36PM Jul 19, 2013

Way to go jervis.

Guess there's no more to say until we see who gets fired.


Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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