Who's The Boss
Game #3049: Murder She wrote 30 (F&A)
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Welcome to Round 7!
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Hi everyone, it is I, RGW... Randy to those who know me. I know I would never try a stunt like this to use the memo to say it is I who is the boss and vote for me. Why would I? Having played over 70 games, I would rather try and win with pure deception and strategy, but alas, I am not the boss.
Only 4 left... 2 are cleared... Froggy and Skybet, and cleared by two voters being fired each... so it makes me feel fairly confident in those clearings, though I have seen where two votes got changed or missed in another game and the boss won because of it... but frankly, this is the last round unless the rat was fired earlier and we have 3 employees - somehow I doubt that.
In any case, Nad and I are the two not cleared, so I can not blame the vote going my way... but where I live really excludes me from one of the prompt answers - but again, I can not prove this... it is only my word and the fact that I do live in an area not known for, nor have we received any snow storms during the time of the first few prompts (excludes yesterday where our local mountains got some).
I am voting for Nad, it is the only logical vote for me. Edit - though incidental, I have confirmed my vote for Nad.
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Only 4 left... 2 are cleared... Froggy and Skybet, and cleared by two voters being fired each... so it makes me feel fairly confident in those clearings, though I have seen where two votes got changed or missed in another game and the boss won because of it... but frankly, this is the last round unless the rat was fired earlier and we have 3 employees - somehow I doubt that.
In any case, Nad and I are the two not cleared, so I can not blame the vote going my way... but where I live really excludes me from one of the prompt answers - but again, I can not prove this... it is only my word and the fact that I do live in an area not known for, nor have we received any snow storms during the time of the first few prompts (excludes yesterday where our local mountains got some).
I am voting for Nad, it is the only logical vote for me. Edit - though incidental, I have confirmed my vote for Nad.
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When this is over, I sure would like to know what 25 units of money is. I was cheering on the Seahawks, but that was mostly because they are Mocha's team and having never won a Super bowl, they really were due, however, I did not have any money on the game - but this could have been a quarter won and the unit of money were pennies.
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When you Love someone, Love them with all your heart as you never know what can happen today!
My problem is Sky being cleared. I realize that demo and sara stated votes for sky, but what if they both didn't vote that way? If not, then Sky is not really cleared. We are so close to a win that I hate to rule out someone who really isn't cleared since this will likely be the last round.
I've got to do a bit of investigating before I vote. Back later.
Edit: I just did a search on "units of money" and what came up was numerous references to British, England, and UK money. I checked the user page of nad which shows the American flag and of Sky which shows the British flag. Hmm...
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SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
I've got to do a bit of investigating before I vote. Back later.
Edit: I just did a search on "units of money" and what came up was numerous references to British, England, and UK money. I checked the user page of nad which shows the American flag and of Sky which shows the British flag. Hmm...
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SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Froggy, I started a message saying I felt we found the rat... because voting for Skybet seems to be a wasted round.
At the end of last round Skybet said he lives in London and they haven't had a flake of snow all winter. My early checks of this seems to discredit this remark; but I have not been able to specifically find London in the masive snow problems they are having in the UK, other than in the remarks before I click on the report.
I also noticed that 4demo talked about going to the vote on Sara, which if she did and thought she had said she had... would take her vote away from Sky. Sara made an inquiry about whether there was a way to find out if the rat was still alive... which is harmless in its own way.
I am NOT changing my vote from Nad right now, but I could see where there could be "some" doubt to his own personal claims... and if I find that London HAS had snow this season, then I might be swayed.
Sky, you made a comment that you can not lie if you are the boss... you can in the rounds, just not in the prompts.
When you Love someone, Love them with all your heart as you never know what can happen today!
At the end of last round Skybet said he lives in London and they haven't had a flake of snow all winter. My early checks of this seems to discredit this remark; but I have not been able to specifically find London in the masive snow problems they are having in the UK, other than in the remarks before I click on the report.
I also noticed that 4demo talked about going to the vote on Sara, which if she did and thought she had said she had... would take her vote away from Sky. Sara made an inquiry about whether there was a way to find out if the rat was still alive... which is harmless in its own way.
I am NOT changing my vote from Nad right now, but I could see where there could be "some" doubt to his own personal claims... and if I find that London HAS had snow this season, then I might be swayed.
Sky, you made a comment that you can not lie if you are the boss... you can in the rounds, just not in the prompts.
When you Love someone, Love them with all your heart as you never know what can happen today!
The boss could absolutely not be RGW. But for a second, let's assume it is. What possible reason would he have for revealing he was boss in the memo? I think that by doing so, he hoped to avoid suspicion (because the boss would certainly not reveal their identity one round from winning!) and shift the suspicion to someone else, namely, me.
I have never played with RGW and so cannot take him at his word this time. My vote goes to RGW. This is the last round. If we do not vote the boss, they will win. I strongly feel RGW as boss. I suggest Sky and Froggy review the evidence and make the right decision.
I am not the boss.
MY signature not yours.
I have never played with RGW and so cannot take him at his word this time. My vote goes to RGW. This is the last round. If we do not vote the boss, they will win. I strongly feel RGW as boss. I suggest Sky and Froggy review the evidence and make the right decision.
I am not the boss.
MY signature not yours.
According to Accu-weather, the last time London had snow was in January 2013... so Sky's claim to no snow is true. Hab's also kept trying to clear up that there were no Taco Bell's in the UK, and I found 3... but they do seem like remote locations... and I could see where they may not be near you. I know I do not visit the malls hardly ever around here, so chains that are in the malls may not be seen by me either... plus I seldom eat in a mall because when I do go there it is to go to a specific store anyway.
Nad, you live in New York... and old enough to drive, even though you state the fact that your folks would not let you drive in this weather... it is possible you got "caught" out in the storm and you had nothing else to do but to get home.
Sorry, vote staying on Nad... because as Nad says, the boss could absoluetly not be me. I don't assume... you recall what that stands for; and so I do not.
If Sky decides to vote for me, so be it... I am not going to argue the fact that he is wrong, it is only a game.
Froggy knows about where I live, she also knows that I have shared my Los Angeles/Pasadena living before, hence why she is not trying to finger "me"... but if she is the rat, I could see that happening because she will not be able to find "any way" that Nad fits the prompts. But what side of the USA have there been many blizzards and snow in - the East Coast and into the MidWest. Our govenor has declared a water shortage due to lack of snow in our state (most of our water comes from Northern California because they get the snow, not So Cal - look it up, it is a fact!).
When you Love someone, Love them with all your heart as you never know what can happen today!
Nad, you live in New York... and old enough to drive, even though you state the fact that your folks would not let you drive in this weather... it is possible you got "caught" out in the storm and you had nothing else to do but to get home.
Sorry, vote staying on Nad... because as Nad says, the boss could absoluetly not be me. I don't assume... you recall what that stands for; and so I do not.
If Sky decides to vote for me, so be it... I am not going to argue the fact that he is wrong, it is only a game.
Froggy knows about where I live, she also knows that I have shared my Los Angeles/Pasadena living before, hence why she is not trying to finger "me"... but if she is the rat, I could see that happening because she will not be able to find "any way" that Nad fits the prompts. But what side of the USA have there been many blizzards and snow in - the East Coast and into the MidWest. Our govenor has declared a water shortage due to lack of snow in our state (most of our water comes from Northern California because they get the snow, not So Cal - look it up, it is a fact!).
When you Love someone, Love them with all your heart as you never know what can happen today!
I also searched for snow in London and it appears there's tons of really bad rain. Could the comment "it was blizzard like conditions" be a reference to blinding rain? Just wondering since London did have snow in early 2013 and I have no idea who to vote for! Obviously my choices are Nad, Randy, and Sky. I've not played many games with Nad or Sky so I have no idea how they play.
Since there are still 17 hours left before the round ends, I'm going to wait until morning to vote.
Nite all!
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Since there are still 17 hours left before the round ends, I'm going to wait until morning to vote.
Nite all!
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
RGW4 wrote:
Please show me where you have showed this to not be the case what I told you was 100% accurate. London, as my experience has been this winter, has had no snow at all, in fact it has only dipped below freezing a couple of times since winter began. London does not generally get much snow in winter, the last few years have been an anomaly in terms of snow amounts, and even in those cases, it still wasn't a lot compared to Canada or the US.
RGW4 wrote:
I am perfectly aware of this, Which is why I was saying that I would have been lying in the prompts not in the game.
I really want to vote RGW, but I am truly surprised we didn't clear nad a few rounds back and cleared froggy instead. In my eyes this was a complete waste of a round, where the memo pretty much cleared her
Still got 12 hours left.... Placeholding vote on RGW for now.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
At the end of last round Skybet said he lives in London and they haven't had a flake of snow all winter. My early checks of this seems to discredit this remark.
Please show me where you have showed this to not be the case what I told you was 100% accurate. London, as my experience has been this winter, has had no snow at all, in fact it has only dipped below freezing a couple of times since winter began. London does not generally get much snow in winter, the last few years have been an anomaly in terms of snow amounts, and even in those cases, it still wasn't a lot compared to Canada or the US.
RGW4 wrote:
Sky, you made a comment that you can not lie if you are the boss... you can in the rounds, just not in the prompts.
I am perfectly aware of this, Which is why I was saying that I would have been lying in the prompts not in the game.
I really want to vote RGW, but I am truly surprised we didn't clear nad a few rounds back and cleared froggy instead. In my eyes this was a complete waste of a round, where the memo pretty much cleared her
Still got 12 hours left.... Placeholding vote on RGW for now.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Actually I might switch to nad... Forggy is coming across increasingly rat-like with her constant assertion that I "might" not be cleared, and incessantly researching trying to discredit my claims. Well nad hasn't been cleared at all, and he is hugely more likely to be in a snow storm or eating Taco Bel than be being that he lives in America. Rather than hanging on to the tiny chance that I might be trying to fool you with this increasingly unlikely outcome, why not consider the most likely outcome, by a huge, huge margin?
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Two players who stated votes for me were fired last round. Two. I would give you the chance of one changing their vote and not saying, or forgetting. But not two. Come on.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Skybet wrote:
The most likely outcome is that RGW is boss. Yes, he claims to live in southern California. What if he means to mislead us? What if he lives just south of Eureka, California(the northernmost city in california)? Technically, that would be "southern" California. A quick google search shows there is a Taco Bell(not Bel, Sky, for goodness sake) smack in the middle of Eureka. As for Lost, he could very well be a fan. I don't recall him claiming not to be. Yes, the first prompt fits me. But I will never be caught dead eating the dog food Taco Bell serves up, and when Lost aired, I was nine. My show of choice was Spongebob.
In conclusion: all prompts fit RGW by a technicality.
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why not consider the most likely outcome, by a huge, huge margin?
The most likely outcome is that RGW is boss. Yes, he claims to live in southern California. What if he means to mislead us? What if he lives just south of Eureka, California(the northernmost city in california)? Technically, that would be "southern" California. A quick google search shows there is a Taco Bell(not Bel, Sky, for goodness sake) smack in the middle of Eureka. As for Lost, he could very well be a fan. I don't recall him claiming not to be. Yes, the first prompt fits me. But I will never be caught dead eating the dog food Taco Bell serves up, and when Lost aired, I was nine. My show of choice was Spongebob.
In conclusion: all prompts fit RGW by a technicality.
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nad331 wrote:
Are you seriously pulling me up on the spelling of a chain restaurant I have never heard of in my life? Get a grip.
Also last I heard the contents of the memos were completely irrelevant to you and now you're using them to make it seem as though it isn't you.
Totally lame.
Voting nad.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
A quick google search shows there is a Taco Bell(not Bel, Sky, for goodness sake).
Are you seriously pulling me up on the spelling of a chain restaurant I have never heard of in my life? Get a grip.
Also last I heard the contents of the memos were completely irrelevant to you and now you're using them to make it seem as though it isn't you.
Totally lame.
Voting nad.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I never said the contents of the memo were irrelevant. What I said was irrelevant was the fact that you'd never been to Taco Bell. That statement alone doesn't clear you. Like I said, for all we know, somebody's brought you Taco Bell in the past.
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You do understand that it's impossible for me to have never been there, but someone has taken me there before. Right?
And if that information is irrelevant, then so is the entirety of your previous post.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
And if that information is irrelevant, then so is the entirety of your previous post.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
No. I did not say somebody's brought you TO Taco Bell. I said somebody brought you Taco bell, as in brought you food from Taco Bell, to your house, where you ate it. You did not have to go to Taco Bell to eat their food.
Vote me if you want. We'll both just lose the game. If we want to win the game, than everyone who has a vote needs to vote RGW.
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Vote me if you want. We'll both just lose the game. If we want to win the game, than everyone who has a vote needs to vote RGW.
MY signature not yours.
Sticking with nad for now.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
That's fine-you've got 8 hours to change your mind.
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Hey Sky, all I did at first was google "Snow in London Winter 2013" and google came up with what happened in the winter of 2012... trickling over into 2013. As I clicked on the stories, there were "signs" that the snow was from this year; but I kept getting images from the stories of 2012. But, because this is the last round, I did want to post that I may have found a "flaw" in your comments, so that was the first post about the storms. I also did not want to just go with my obvious thoughts and vote for Nad without doing a little research. and that was when I found Accu-weather for London... and boy did that confirm you have had no snow in London since January 2013. If I was trying to stick you with a vote, I sure would not have disclosed the accu-weather... as it took me about 20 minutes to find that bit of data, and several changes to how I was googling the question.
Nad... Eureka? Why don't you put Sky in Northern UK while you're at it? If you are going to say I am lying about living in the Pasadena area of California, why not just put me either in Shasta county... saying I don't even live in southern California. Better yet, move me to the nearby mountains at Arrowhead or Big Bear... where, yes, they get snow during the winter, at least that puts me within a couple hour drive of Pasadena where I do all of my electrical contracting.
In any case, I have to leave for work now... big job in San Marino. I may or may not be back before the end of the round. I usually get home between 3 -4 PM..PST and this is set to end just about in the middle of that time. Nad and Froggy, I sure would love to hear more stuff about why we are wrong with our vote!
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Nad... Eureka? Why don't you put Sky in Northern UK while you're at it? If you are going to say I am lying about living in the Pasadena area of California, why not just put me either in Shasta county... saying I don't even live in southern California. Better yet, move me to the nearby mountains at Arrowhead or Big Bear... where, yes, they get snow during the winter, at least that puts me within a couple hour drive of Pasadena where I do all of my electrical contracting.
In any case, I have to leave for work now... big job in San Marino. I may or may not be back before the end of the round. I usually get home between 3 -4 PM..PST and this is set to end just about in the middle of that time. Nad and Froggy, I sure would love to hear more stuff about why we are wrong with our vote!
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To be honest I'm still 50/50 between nad and RGW but RGW has done way more to convince me this round that it is less likely to be him, also still getting the vibe that froggy is the rat.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
This round? Why don't you go back to past rounds and see who was more suspicious?
Whether or not you decide to vote the right person(if you even have a vote, you rat suspect) at the end of the day, it's still a game and I won't lose any sleep over it. I know the boss is RGW. You and froggy have been cleared, and I'm sure as sugar not the boss. By preschool logic, that leaves only RGW. Open and shut case. Sky, froggy, whichever one of you has the vote, slap it on RGW and let's end this thing. I'm not too worried about finding the rat, i know the boss, and the rat appears to be Sky. Froggy- you must vote RGW.
Edit:Sky, before you even bother arguing that you are not the rat, change your "vote". That might make me see your innocence.
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Whether or not you decide to vote the right person(if you even have a vote, you rat suspect) at the end of the day, it's still a game and I won't lose any sleep over it. I know the boss is RGW. You and froggy have been cleared, and I'm sure as sugar not the boss. By preschool logic, that leaves only RGW. Open and shut case. Sky, froggy, whichever one of you has the vote, slap it on RGW and let's end this thing. I'm not too worried about finding the rat, i know the boss, and the rat appears to be Sky. Froggy- you must vote RGW.
Edit:Sky, before you even bother arguing that you are not the rat, change your "vote". That might make me see your innocence.
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Well, there sure are a lot of discussions going on as to who our Boss is and who it isn't. Since I'm going to be busy in a bit, I won't get back on before the round voting ends. That said, I'm going to do the only thing I feel I can do and that is to vote for RGW. So many different points brought up by all of you, but I have played enough of these games to know how much the Boss memos/messages can be stretched just enough to be true but not seem to point to a very smart and experienced Boss. And, Sky - a good Boss will be very convincing when they are in a position where they have to defend themselves - that's the way the game is played.
Sorry if I'm wrong, but here goes. Voting for RGW.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Sorry if I'm wrong, but here goes. Voting for RGW.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Sky, please, please, please rethink your decision. The employees deserve to win and I'm an employee too.
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nad331 wrote:
What I'm saying nad, is that you need to give a reason why you aren't. Simply saying this isn't convincing other players not to vote you. RGW has given good reasoning as to why he isn't likely to be the boss, which is why I feel more compelled by his argument.
froggygg wrote:
This strikes me as bad logic. So you're saying that I should suspect the person who gives greater logical reasoning as to why they aren't the boss more than someone who can't give such reasoning, just because a good boss is good at fooling people?
Think about it, that's saying you should vote the person who is logically less likely to be the boss because they can support their arguments better. The exact reason they can support their arguments better is because they have a greater foundation.
You have just convinced me even further that you're the rat froggy by not even considering nad as a suspect here.
froggygg wrote:
Why? Why do you think it's not nad?
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I know the boss is RGW. You and froggy have been cleared, and I'm sure as sugar not the boss.
What I'm saying nad, is that you need to give a reason why you aren't. Simply saying this isn't convincing other players not to vote you. RGW has given good reasoning as to why he isn't likely to be the boss, which is why I feel more compelled by his argument.
froggygg wrote:
And, Sky - a good Boss will be very convincing when they are in a position where they have to defend themselves - that's the way the game is played.
This strikes me as bad logic. So you're saying that I should suspect the person who gives greater logical reasoning as to why they aren't the boss more than someone who can't give such reasoning, just because a good boss is good at fooling people?
Think about it, that's saying you should vote the person who is logically less likely to be the boss because they can support their arguments better. The exact reason they can support their arguments better is because they have a greater foundation.
You have just convinced me even further that you're the rat froggy by not even considering nad as a suspect here.
froggygg wrote:
I'm going to do the only thing I feel I can do and that is to vote for RGW.
Why? Why do you think it's not nad?
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
This is such nonsense. You want proof I'm not the boss? I don't know what to tell you. Just because I don't have a "good" argument for not being the boss, doesn't mean I am the boss. Putting aside reasons why we CAN'T be boss, let's look at who CAN be boss. The only one who can is RGW. No ifs ands or buts.
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It's do or die now, Sky! YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR VOTE TO RGW SO WE CAN WIN!
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Nonsense Nad.. maybe you shouldn't play if you are going to get upset.
And why would sky have to change his vote if both you and froggy are voting for me? I'm ok with it this way, the employees will win in about 2 minutes
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And why would sky have to change his vote if both you and froggy are voting for me? I'm ok with it this way, the employees will win in about 2 minutes
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