The Werewolf Game
Game #2865: LIBERTY V TYRANNY
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This game finished in 8 rounds.
RFSH The seer and all 3 wolves survive,,,,,
Debc got 4 of 6 quotes and earned immunity for this round!!!!
I have a training meeting in Victoria today ...I probably wont be back on until about 7pm cst.
good luck !!!!
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Debc got 4 of 6 quotes and earned immunity for this round!!!!
I have a training meeting in Victoria today ...I probably wont be back on until about 7pm cst.
good luck !!!!
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Voting for slaMming's vote. subject to change should something interesting occur.
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Voting Smithy right now. His overreaction to my post, then the subsequent night time out kind of makes me think he had something spiteful to do with it. I also sort of suspected Skybet last round, but it might have just been the quaintness of his posts that made me feel uneasy.
Just an SPV until further discussion and celt's ID.
GreenApples27 wrote:
Are you seriously that unable to see the link between you discussing log-in times and nights needing to time out?
SPV for now.
Voting Smithy right now. His overreaction to my post, then the subsequent night time out kind of makes me think he had something spiteful to do with it.
Are you seriously that unable to see the link between you discussing log-in times and nights needing to time out?
SPV for now.
I didn't even use login times that anyone else could see. My profile only said "Yesterday", meaning I could have logged in. I was just saying I didn't log in during the night. I had no way of proving it though. Why you got your knickers in such a twist is beyond me.
SPV for GA for now. Will change if necessary later. Just want to get a vote in before going to work.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
GreenApples27 wrote:
That's a yes then.
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I didn't even use login times that anyone else could see. My profile only said "Yesterday", meaning I could have logged in. I was just saying I didn't log in during the night. I had no way of proving it though. Why you got your knickers in such a twist is beyond me.
That's a yes then.
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A new day... And still rather nonplussed. I think we have weathered wolves. Theres reasoning behind all the eatings and the night time out reasoning etc because GA made a small comment about log in times. It all just seems very shrewd and reactive and showing attention to minor detail.
Harry was pretty much trying to point the finger at everyone last round. Hes usually a bit more subtle. I think we are going to have to look at the minor detail too to catch them this game.
Remember before you all start suspecting me again for no reason, I defended celt a lot last round, who turned out being human. I'm starting to look at the ringleaders now, the ones who try to influence us the most.
Voting Harry for now.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Harry was pretty much trying to point the finger at everyone last round. Hes usually a bit more subtle. I think we are going to have to look at the minor detail too to catch them this game.
Remember before you all start suspecting me again for no reason, I defended celt a lot last round, who turned out being human. I'm starting to look at the ringleaders now, the ones who try to influence us the most.
Voting Harry for now.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I despise any accusations of being "too defensive", but whipping out a textbook persistent defender defence without even being mentioned once is sending out all sorts of red flags to me. As is the stuff about detail, letting the night time out wasn't exactly a tough call, and I'm not really sure what you're seeing in the eatings.
Switching to sky. For funsies.
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Switching to sky. For funsies.
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SPV for now...gotta get into work
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Oldcustard wrote:
and Celts ID was posted at the end of Rd 2, no excuse for so so many people to not notice this.
As for the rest of this saga....
I think the opposite of Sky on the eatings, they seem to be sort of 'bowing' to the group consensus, or expected group consensus. Slammin seemed human to like 4 people while LHF was the single real defender of JJ in Rd 1. They might be looking at the eatings from a sort of.....non-confident? lens, as in they are letting the humans decide for them in a way. If I was to guess Id think it was two inexperienced wolves with one 'moderate' leader, but then the more I look at whos left, there probly has to be one stronger player in the mix.
As for Green, the king of overeacting to night time outs, (which time out mainly cause of players like him ) I dont find his suspicoun of Smithy all that genuine...but not gonna act on anything this early in the round.
Lastly, I think Harry is trying his own brand of stirring the pot, which he promised to revive last game, but who knows
Keeping my SPV
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Just an SPV until further discussion and celt's ID.
and Celts ID was posted at the end of Rd 2, no excuse for so so many people to not notice this.
As for the rest of this saga....
I think the opposite of Sky on the eatings, they seem to be sort of 'bowing' to the group consensus, or expected group consensus. Slammin seemed human to like 4 people while LHF was the single real defender of JJ in Rd 1. They might be looking at the eatings from a sort of.....non-confident? lens, as in they are letting the humans decide for them in a way. If I was to guess Id think it was two inexperienced wolves with one 'moderate' leader, but then the more I look at whos left, there probly has to be one stronger player in the mix.
As for Green, the king of overeacting to night time outs, (which time out mainly cause of players like him ) I dont find his suspicoun of Smithy all that genuine...but not gonna act on anything this early in the round.
Lastly, I think Harry is trying his own brand of stirring the pot, which he promised to revive last game, but who knows
Keeping my SPV
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Smithy wrote:
I don't see that at all. GA started saying my posts last round were suspect, and I wanted to say why they were exactly the opposite. That's all lol.
But c'est la vie.
I think we need to make a good choice this round now we are 4 humans down. Where's your sense of urgency smithy? Voting for funsies, we vote a human this round and we are down to 9 players with 3 wolves.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I despise any accusations of being "too defensive", but whipping out a textbook persistent defender defence without even being mentioned once is sending out all sorts of red flags to me. As is the stuff about detail, letting the night time out wasn't exactly a tough call, and I'm not really sure what you're seeing in the eatings.
Switching to sky. For funsies.
Switching to sky. For funsies.
I don't see that at all. GA started saying my posts last round were suspect, and I wanted to say why they were exactly the opposite. That's all lol.
But c'est la vie.
I think we need to make a good choice this round now we are 4 humans down. Where's your sense of urgency smithy? Voting for funsies, we vote a human this round and we are down to 9 players with 3 wolves.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I put in a random vote while I make some considerations At least one of spid or smithy is a wolF@!
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My bad sky, I totally missed GA mentioning you, allow me to retract my earlier statement. And my voting for funsies comment was really just for funsies, the vote itself was for serious business (though I now acknowledge it was anchored in rocky waters).
Putter. What's the theme of this game, vagueness? Please share your wisdom with us.
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Putter. What's the theme of this game, vagueness? Please share your wisdom with us.
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I have come to 3 conclusions:
1. The wolves have a single, all-encompassing leader in their TB
2. There is one "schmuck" among them
3. That leader wants a challenge
Consider that
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1. The wolves have a single, all-encompassing leader in their TB
2. There is one "schmuck" among them
3. That leader wants a challenge
Consider that
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Do you think spid was bigging himself up when he mentioned a stronger player in the mix?
Any chance you could elucidate us on how you arrived at those conclusions? I hope Gorey hasn't been advising you again, this isn't anarchy you know.
Any chance you could elucidate us on how you arrived at those conclusions? I hope Gorey hasn't been advising you again, this isn't anarchy you know.
As I said, the make up seems to me three low to midrange players. Eatings dont seem like they are stemming from a 'challenge' aspect to me, more who does everyone else think is clear. Only reason I said one stronger wolf is probablity mainly.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Good news/bad news for me working today. Bad news iis the kids are both sick. Good news is this means we will be staying home all day so I get to play on the internet all day.
When I'm a wolf, I like taking out the players who are less of a threat first and I believe most of the experiencd wolves also do the same. Therefore, I'd ageee with the modetate to inexperienced wolves theory.
Not sure who to vote yet. Will stick with my GA vote though I don't necessarily suspect him (not much anyway). Right now I'm stuck with everyone is looking suspicious yet no one is.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
When I'm a wolf, I like taking out the players who are less of a threat first and I believe most of the experiencd wolves also do the same. Therefore, I'd ageee with the modetate to inexperienced wolves theory.
Not sure who to vote yet. Will stick with my GA vote though I don't necessarily suspect him (not much anyway). Right now I'm stuck with everyone is looking suspicious yet no one is.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Before we get too hung up on the apparent calibre of the wolves based on the very subjective view of the eatings, does anyone have any leads on identities yet? Are we just going to start ranking all the players in here and voting that way?
Sounds like you're intentionally trying to put yourself down spid so that people wont suspect you with your midrange player comment.
And Harry so it's kitty, GA, spid and smithy on your list now? Anyone else?
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Sounds like you're intentionally trying to put yourself down spid so that people wont suspect you with your midrange player comment.
And Harry so it's kitty, GA, spid and smithy on your list now? Anyone else?
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
How am I trying to put myself down, I dont consider myself even close to midplayer range Im just saying thats where my suspects are at the moment
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Thats exactly what I mean. Perhaps I didn't word it clearly. By labelling the wolves by ability, you seem to be trying to distance yourself from them, I just wondered if there was anything behind it.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
hey
checking in
fixing to go to work
i WILL VOTE FOR SOMEONE which is very subject to change
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voted harvey, he is in no danger right now since i am the first to vote him
like i said very subject to change
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checking in
fixing to go to work
i WILL VOTE FOR SOMEONE which is very subject to change
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voted harvey, he is in no danger right now since i am the first to vote him
like i said very subject to change
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There was nothing more to it then what I said, a lot of people were calling Slammin cleared, seemed like the most likely reason the wolves ate her. Longhorn not really sure, didnt vote JJ, I dont know just random probly.
I can tell you when I'm a wolf I go after the seer as soon as possible, so Slam would not have been high on my list
caberet voted for Skybet
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
HABS2933 voted for GreenApples27
HarryPutter voted for kitty-cat
Oldcustard voted for caberet
Skybet voted for HarryPutter
Smithy voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for Oldcustard
chrome ( ) makes coloring a pain so ill get around to editing later if i feel like it
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I can tell you when I'm a wolf I go after the seer as soon as possible, so Slam would not have been high on my list
caberet voted for Skybet
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
HABS2933 voted for GreenApples27
HarryPutter voted for kitty-cat
Oldcustard voted for caberet
Skybet voted for HarryPutter
Smithy voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for Oldcustard
chrome ( ) makes coloring a pain so ill get around to editing later if i feel like it
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Add sky to my list
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Putter you flirt, just divulge your reasoning already.
Or is your idea of "stirring the pot" just throwing out random baseless accusations?
Or is your idea of "stirring the pot" just throwing out random baseless accusations?
Sorry I haven't posted yet. I'm just going to do a random vote.
The 2-2 is not all that alarming at the moment, but of the two I would be more suspect of Sky. Harry seems too smug/coy to be a wolf, giving way to many cute responses. Sky came out pretty aggressive this round, more interested in accusing people than anything else.
That being said my suspect group would be something like OC/Kit, Cab, HABS as an example, but you can mix and match a few others in there. Going to switch over to Cab, who at the very least is dissapointingly non-productive lately.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
That being said my suspect group would be something like OC/Kit, Cab, HABS as an example, but you can mix and match a few others in there. Going to switch over to Cab, who at the very least is dissapointingly non-productive lately.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Top suspects
1. Smithy
2. Sky
3. Maybe habs
I might not get on till much later, so someone steer the ship while I'm gone
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1. Smithy
2. Sky
3. Maybe habs
I might not get on till much later, so someone steer the ship while I'm gone
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Putter this is getting tedious, I don't think you're a wolf but so far you've been incredibly unhelpful.
I am not a wolf (oops is that being defensive?). While in my early games I may havebeen guilty of letting night time out, those who play with me on a regular basis know hw much I hate the long nights. Were I a wolf. I would totally out the non voting wolf. I much prefer a fast paced game. Since there is really little to do to speed up the day rounds (which seldom feel dragged out anyway as thete is activity), I like to keep the nights short.
iKitty has said little which may be because she was very obvious as a wolf the last two games so she is trying to fly under the radar this game.
I don't get any wolf vibes from Spider, even if he does suspect me, but he always suspects me. Putter I'm not so sure about. My best guess right now is Sky. Seriously considering changing my vote.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
iKitty has said little which may be because she was very obvious as a wolf the last two games so she is trying to fly under the radar this game.
I don't get any wolf vibes from Spider, even if he does suspect me, but he always suspects me. Putter I'm not so sure about. My best guess right now is Sky. Seriously considering changing my vote.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
At the moment I'm thinking one or two of Harry/Smithy/Spider and as for the other I'm just not sure. This is round 3 and I would like to have had a bit more of an insight by now. We have people coming on and just voting randomly or throwing accusations with no reasoning. Dont take my comments as accusations I'm merely trying to expose cracks through conversation.
In round 2, I pretty much needed it spelled out to me why LH was eaten by Spider and Smithy, she would not have been my choice. And then I tried to get people to give celt a chance and was reluctant to vote. Shooting me would be a bad choice if you're human.
Looking back at the late surge on cab to tie it with celt, those voters are going to be low on my list, I just need to check back and see who they are.
As for Harry, you guys know him better than me, so my judgement wont be as sharp. I just dont get the random accusations. I would be interested in a cab vote perhaps.
EDIT: The cab voters were Spider and koin. I had SPV'd her earlier in the round.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
In round 2, I pretty much needed it spelled out to me why LH was eaten by Spider and Smithy, she would not have been my choice. And then I tried to get people to give celt a chance and was reluctant to vote. Shooting me would be a bad choice if you're human.
Looking back at the late surge on cab to tie it with celt, those voters are going to be low on my list, I just need to check back and see who they are.
As for Harry, you guys know him better than me, so my judgement wont be as sharp. I just dont get the random accusations. I would be interested in a cab vote perhaps.
EDIT: The cab voters were Spider and koin. I had SPV'd her earlier in the round.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
HABS, I'm not sure you understand the need for the wolves to oftentimes allow night to time out to prevent clearings (See Scrub clearing ICU in Stewies game) ONE clear, just ONE clear is a major obstacle for the wolves, especially in mid to late game. If we were wolves, and you outted me after I let night time out for good reason, well you and I would have a nice, long chat about it
Ill say it for the 1000th time in these games, be mad at the humans who dont log in, not the wolves who are forced to work around them,
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Ill say it for the 1000th time in these games, be mad at the humans who dont log in, not the wolves who are forced to work around them,
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I see your point. I guess I was looking it from an inactive wolf point of vie, not of the intentional timing outs. Ideally, everyone in rhe game should be active enough that log ins and long nights mean nothing.
And I can't really out you without outing myself, let's say I'd push hard to get an inactive wolf out of the way if he was holding up the game for multiple rounds without cause (all players are active so it acomplishes little)
And I don't see the wolves at a disadvantage anyway, statistically tey win about 56% of the time. They should get a slight disadvantage from time to time
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
And I can't really out you without outing myself, let's say I'd push hard to get an inactive wolf out of the way if he was holding up the game for multiple rounds without cause (all players are active so it acomplishes little)
And I don't see the wolves at a disadvantage anyway, statistically tey win about 56% of the time. They should get a slight disadvantage from time to time
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Maybe, but if Im playing chess I don't toss a white pawn off the board just cause white has a statistical advantage
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Yeah, but a wolf who does not participate at all (no votes in either portion of the round, no posts etc) is much more useless than a pawn. At least a pawn who sticks it out can be one of your most valuable pieces once it is promoted.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I was just saying just cause one side starts with an advantage doesnt mean I condone 'questionable' means to reduce that advantage
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
i hate long nights
i forgot my quote yesterday
but i have one for today
I was born an American; I will live an American; I shall die an American.
i am wondering a little bit about cab, but it could be life popping up
the smithy harry thing could be opposing players or a clever ruse
i think i will keep it as is for the time being
sky is very talkative...not sure
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i forgot my quote yesterday
but i have one for today
I was born an American; I will live an American; I shall die an American.
i am wondering a little bit about cab, but it could be life popping up
the smithy harry thing could be opposing players or a clever ruse
i think i will keep it as is for the time being
sky is very talkative...not sure
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SirHar wrote:
Is it steal from the people who produce or regulate the people who produce? Cuz those are two very different questions.
The one thing we all seem to agree on is that there is at least one less active/low-range player among the wolves. That would point to caberet or maybe OC. Random spv for now but I might consider changing to one of those 2 later on.
Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
Next rounds competition will be YOU....Explaining to ME....How..... Empowering temporary politicians to, by law, STEAL and over Regulate the people who PRODUCE......Will EVER lead to a better society....all it does is lead to tyrants and misery for the people....This is not a new concept ....people STUDY HISTORY!!!!!
Is it steal from the people who produce or regulate the people who produce? Cuz those are two very different questions.
The one thing we all seem to agree on is that there is at least one less active/low-range player among the wolves. That would point to caberet or maybe OC. Random spv for now but I might consider changing to one of those 2 later on.
Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
Apparently it makes you more suspicious if you actually try to find the wolves how ironic.
deb, I'm always active, look at the last 3 anarchy games. I was human in all of them.
I'm switching to cab. The wolves might be laughing while all the contributing players are pointing the finger at each other.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
deb, I'm always active, look at the last 3 anarchy games. I was human in all of them.
I'm switching to cab. The wolves might be laughing while all the contributing players are pointing the finger at each other.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
memory but i was in only 1 anarchy i think
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Koin "Taxing and regulating go hand in hand for the Tyranists!!!!
Those who stand for Liberty want as little of both as possible!!!!
And let me make a comment which may Help the HUMANS..." YOU GUYS ARE NOT DOING WELL!!!!!"
I am DISAPPOINTED!!!!!!
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
Those who stand for Liberty want as little of both as possible!!!!
And let me make a comment which may Help the HUMANS..." YOU GUYS ARE NOT DOING WELL!!!!!"
I am DISAPPOINTED!!!!!!
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
What are you even talking about regulating? Taxes are necessary. Even if we didnt have social security, if we didnt have welfare, if we didnt do any of that, we would still need taxes.
Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
I would except sub-par play from OC and Kitty ( whom I am NOT clearing)....But the rest of you???? C'MON MAN!!!!!!!!!
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
I have trouble making worthwile discussion in these games ...anyway...switching to spid...I get the feeling he may be a wolf (subject to change)
Koin we need taxes only to defend our country and protect the rights of the individual....Which would require very little.....If we stuck to our Constitution...Federal Taxes would a fraction of what we pay NOW!!!!The problem is Govt has become an over bloated leviathon...that hangs around the peoples neck!!!!!..
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
What about education? What about keeping roads easy to travel on? What about public buildings such as libraries? Do none of those matter? Taxes go to other things too...I'm not going to get into a discussion about politics, but I'd just like to say that we don't "taxes only to defend our country and protect the rights of the individual."
Too late Kitty you already did.....Schools, buildings, railroads, libraries....Can all be handled by private enterprise or LOCAL taxes!!!!! I am speaking of FEDERAL TAXES>>>> The king in Washington has NO CLUE what we might need in "Dinkyville TX!!!!!!" !!!!!!
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
Ok Har, we suck I know. This is a tough game. I'm rethinking my cab vote now and going back to the drawing board.
I'm thinking too that the wolves have their TB so perhaps the wolves might not be so chatty here. That's not a given though.
What else have we seen? Spider and Smithy seemed to have an insight into why LH was eaten 1st round. That was my first interesting note... Harry has ben pointing the finger everywhere... From what I've played with him before that's not like him. Also Spider defended him and so did Smithy, both declaring they think he is human. Regardless of what Spider said earlier, the eatings are far from random. Both eatings were of players that were considered cleared by at least a few of us so I do think the wolves know what they're doing. Also GA commented about log in times and Smithy warned that the next night would time out because of that comment, and it did. could be coincidence? But also not... We also had the Spider and HABS conversation about throwing pawns of a chess board or whatever. It seemed a little forced, both emulating what they would do if they were wolves.
I could be way off the mark, but Harry/Spider/Smithy have featured in all my suspicious actions listed above. I'm sure at least one of them is a wolf. And I'm thinking HABS too and maybe kitty...
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I'm thinking too that the wolves have their TB so perhaps the wolves might not be so chatty here. That's not a given though.
What else have we seen? Spider and Smithy seemed to have an insight into why LH was eaten 1st round. That was my first interesting note... Harry has ben pointing the finger everywhere... From what I've played with him before that's not like him. Also Spider defended him and so did Smithy, both declaring they think he is human. Regardless of what Spider said earlier, the eatings are far from random. Both eatings were of players that were considered cleared by at least a few of us so I do think the wolves know what they're doing. Also GA commented about log in times and Smithy warned that the next night would time out because of that comment, and it did. could be coincidence? But also not... We also had the Spider and HABS conversation about throwing pawns of a chess board or whatever. It seemed a little forced, both emulating what they would do if they were wolves.
I could be way off the mark, but Harry/Spider/Smithy have featured in all my suspicious actions listed above. I'm sure at least one of them is a wolf. And I'm thinking HABS too and maybe kitty...
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Does your rethinking of the Cab vote just happen to coincide with her being taken out of the majority
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
No not at all Spider. First of all I didn't notice and secondly why would that matter?
Ok so I've looked through the last round and I did notice Spider and HABS defend kitty. I just can't decide who to vote this round... I'm thinking our three wolves are in Spider/Smithy/HABS/Harry/kitty.
This is my last post before bed, it's 1.30am here...
I'm going Spider.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Ok so I've looked through the last round and I did notice Spider and HABS defend kitty. I just can't decide who to vote this round... I'm thinking our three wolves are in Spider/Smithy/HABS/Harry/kitty.
This is my last post before bed, it's 1.30am here...
I'm going Spider.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
What do you mean how it wouldnt it matter?
When the best way to save yourself was to vote Cab, you came up with a reason for voting her, making it 3-2 and keeping you safe. Shorlty after Cab falls out of the majority suddenly you need to rethink your Cab vote and "go back to the drawing board." At that point, the only way to save yourself was to vote me so you pieced together the (very weak) scraps of an argument to vote me. You seem to play dumb when you need to, and have the same things figured out when it suits you.
You keep making this huge thing about the night eatings, on one hand it all makes sense, on the other you needed me and Smithy apparantly to point it out to you. All you've really done this round is throw suspicouns on as many people as possible. If you would have just said voting me to save yourself that would have been one thing, but to have to act like you are cooking up some 'realization' is totally ridiculous
Mostly cause I have to, but also cause your last posts are completely off the mark
voting Sky
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
When the best way to save yourself was to vote Cab, you came up with a reason for voting her, making it 3-2 and keeping you safe. Shorlty after Cab falls out of the majority suddenly you need to rethink your Cab vote and "go back to the drawing board." At that point, the only way to save yourself was to vote me so you pieced together the (very weak) scraps of an argument to vote me. You seem to play dumb when you need to, and have the same things figured out when it suits you.
You keep making this huge thing about the night eatings, on one hand it all makes sense, on the other you needed me and Smithy apparantly to point it out to you. All you've really done this round is throw suspicouns on as many people as possible. If you would have just said voting me to save yourself that would have been one thing, but to have to act like you are cooking up some 'realization' is totally ridiculous
Mostly cause I have to, but also cause your last posts are completely off the mark
voting Sky
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
It's a game, sometimes it's the best way to extract information. Those who have the best insight into actions are the ones who comitted them themselves.
Just wanted to say if I get shot today, well played wolves, you have hidden yourselves well. And the remaining humans please take note of what I've said, I think I'm on to something.
Night all.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Just wanted to say if I get shot today, well played wolves, you have hidden yourselves well. And the remaining humans please take note of what I've said, I think I'm on to something.
Night all.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Yeah and as you noted the LHF/Slammin kills were perfectly logical, so why pretend they weren't?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
What spiders saying is making sense, and my previous post got deleted so I'm gonna vote sky. If he's human I would think spider, smithy, or habs, or a combination of those.
Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
Skybet wrote: [quote]We also had the Spider and HABS conversation about throwing pawns of a chess board or whatever. It seemed a little forced, both emulating what they would do if they were wolves. [/quote]
Seemed a little forced? What does that even mean? Makes about as much sense as the "too defensive" argument. And on that note, since I have not even tried to defend myself at all, by that logic, I must be human. Anyone who plays with me on a regular basis knows how I feel about UNNECESSARILY long nights. I even moderated a game (some of the players here were in it) in which being ACTIVE was required. I was going to out a wolf (via an easy kindergarten level clue) if night timed out for no good reason twice.
[quote]Ok so I've looked through the last round and I did notice Spider and HABS defend kitty.[/quote]
And unless Kitty is shown to be a wolf -this proves what? All I said was that in the last two games in which she was a wolf, it was pretty obvious early on. And that her actions could be more inexperience rather than evidence of being a wolf.
[quote]I just can't decide who to vote this round... I'm thinking our three wolves are in Spider/Smithy/HABS/Harry/kitty. [/quote]
Since you've just named 1/2 of the players left in the game, I'd say you have a pretty good chance at having named a wolf in there. [/quote]
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Seemed a little forced? What does that even mean? Makes about as much sense as the "too defensive" argument. And on that note, since I have not even tried to defend myself at all, by that logic, I must be human. Anyone who plays with me on a regular basis knows how I feel about UNNECESSARILY long nights. I even moderated a game (some of the players here were in it) in which being ACTIVE was required. I was going to out a wolf (via an easy kindergarten level clue) if night timed out for no good reason twice.
[quote]Ok so I've looked through the last round and I did notice Spider and HABS defend kitty.[/quote]
And unless Kitty is shown to be a wolf -this proves what? All I said was that in the last two games in which she was a wolf, it was pretty obvious early on. And that her actions could be more inexperience rather than evidence of being a wolf.
[quote]I just can't decide who to vote this round... I'm thinking our three wolves are in Spider/Smithy/HABS/Harry/kitty. [/quote]
Since you've just named 1/2 of the players left in the game, I'd say you have a pretty good chance at having named a wolf in there. [/quote]
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
VOTING LIST
With 3HRs 50mins (approx) left:
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
caberet voted for Skybet
koin_era345 voted for Skybet
Smithy voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for Skybet
Oldcustard voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
HABS2933 voted for GreenApples27
HarryPutter voted for kitty-cat
kitty-cat voted for HABS2933
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
With 3HRs 50mins (approx) left:
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
caberet voted for Skybet
koin_era345 voted for Skybet
Smithy voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for Skybet
Oldcustard voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
HABS2933 voted for GreenApples27
HarryPutter voted for kitty-cat
kitty-cat voted for HABS2933
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Gonna be heading to sleep here, not in too much danger now but you never know how the end of the round swing might go. Not really sure what Ive done exactly to be suspicous. I just gave a generic profile of who I thought the wolves are based on the eatings and thats got Sky all hot and bothered for whatever reason. It doesnt take some brillaint mind to eat the player who most players consider clear. Not really up for risking myself with a vote change, but Im happy with a Sky vote anyhow. Like Ive said, follow his vote/suspect patterns, they just match who was most in jeapordy at the time (Cab/me), even when his suspicouns contradict previous things he said.
Anyway
I'll probly end up checking the game at some point before round over anyway but if you guys are dopey enough to shoot me I would say Harry is probly human, think Deb is human. Best suspects would be Cab (though not sure how that changes if Sky is a wolf) and probly OC, and possibly Smithy/HABS but not confident there.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Anyway
I'll probly end up checking the game at some point before round over anyway but if you guys are dopey enough to shoot me I would say Harry is probly human, think Deb is human. Best suspects would be Cab (though not sure how that changes if Sky is a wolf) and probly OC, and possibly Smithy/HABS but not confident there.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
This is a hard decision to make without any shot wolves yet. Sky's ID should give us some good insight, hopefully. I don't think I'll be back before the end if the round, so lets hope we hit a wolf.
Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
Dan, you know I don't overreact to night time outs when there are actually inactives. Lord, you are just being ridiculous. Both you and Smithy are getting ants in your pants for no reason, probably just because you want some interesting discussion...
Anyway, my vote on Smithy is genuine, thank you very much, Dan.
Smithy is just calling everyone who suspects him dumb, as if it's completely unheard of for a human to suspect another human. The two of you are just grinding my gears and it's so weird since I usually love playing with the both of you.
Anyway, my vote stays on Smithy, and no I don't think Skybet's identity will tell us much at all.
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Anyway, my vote on Smithy is genuine, thank you very much, Dan.
Smithy is just calling everyone who suspects him dumb, as if it's completely unheard of for a human to suspect another human. The two of you are just grinding my gears and it's so weird since I usually love playing with the both of you.
Anyway, my vote stays on Smithy, and no I don't think Skybet's identity will tell us much at all.
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Skybet was human....Nice job Guys... The seer still lives....
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
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