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The Werewolf Game #2991

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This game is moderated by snowmonster. Please read the rules and contact the moderator with any questions or concerns about this game.

Voting Discussion
This game finished in 7 rounds.

Discussion of Round #4

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bradon182001*us


Posted: 08:52AM Nov 2, 2013

RFM Thanks!!

Vlerma was a WOLF!


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bradon182001*us


Posted: 08:55AM Nov 2, 2013

Waiting for Snowy to fill us in...
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debc1A


Posted: 09:35AM Nov 2, 2013

weekend horay!!

well right now i am going to assume the seer is still here and throw a vote out
is very subject to change


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4demo


Posted: 02:36PM Nov 2, 2013

Deb, I don't quite understand why you would go ahead and assume the Seer is here. I could sort of understand if you knew you would be gone for the rest of the round, and you wanted to get in a SPV just in case, but you didn't really say anything about being away. Even though it's statistically more likely that the Seer is still here, I find it a little weird that you decided to jump to this assumption with no further reasoning.

Waiting for a mod update.


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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nidhoggAgb


Posted: 02:59PM Nov 2, 2013

Ok, since vlerma was a wolf, I reckon 4demo and bradon can be cleared as wolves.
debc1, your decision to "throw a vote out" surprises me too- it's essentially a guess and since 4demo voted for a wolf last round it seems ridiculously random. It doesn't help us at all and actually propels you to the top of people's suspect lists.

For now I think the people who voted for froggy last round are the most suspicious and I will probably vote for one of them. I'll wait until they get online and discuss it though!


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bradon182001*us


Posted: 03:06PM Nov 2, 2013

Okay, Vlerma was a wolf!!! Froggy apparently wasn't the Seer since Snowy didn't mention it. We are still in pretty good shape. I will consider Anglo human since Vlerma put him in a 3-way tied majority and I don't think she would do that to a fellow wolf.For our Seer's sake, I'll place a random vote for now as I need to go back and see who voted for who which I will do later this evening when I have time.
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4demo


Posted: 03:21PM Nov 2, 2013

vlerma voted for Bobbi in round 1, changhill in round 2, and Anglo in round 3. guamgirl voted for vlerma in round 1, I voted for vlerma in round 2, and froggy, Bobbi, and I voted for vlerma in round 3. I think we can tentatively move Bobbi, Anglo, guam, and myself lower on the suspicion list (doesn't mean we're necessarily cleared, but presumably less likely to be wolves).

I'm voting for ICU for now. I can't really justify why beyond the not-so-helpful "gut feeling" descriptor.


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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nidhoggAgb


Posted: 03:29PM Nov 2, 2013

That sounds fair, it doesn't necessarily clear you guys but at this stage I think we can definitely clear 4demo, bradon and Anglo (I missed that one )
This doesn't leave many suspects and I feel ICUB and debc1 are most suspicious right now. I will vote for ICUB but can change it depending on what happens later in the round.
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AngloSaxon70A


Posted: 07:37PM Nov 2, 2013

Wow Ive never been on the none suspicious list!!
I'm going to put in a vote for ICUB, maybe we'll get lucky and nab another wolf
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bradon182001*us


Posted: 07:42PM Nov 2, 2013

I really have no idea about ICUB, she's a true enigma as far as I'm concerned when it comes to this game. I probably could go for a debc1 vote, she's most definitely not playing her usual game and she hasn't suspected me once yet, so totally out of character.

I don't understand why you feel Guam may be cleared. Many times wolves vote for each other, especially in the first round when it's common for a Mo0 vote.Then they can come back later and say I voted for X when X turns out to be a wolf. I'm more concerned that she didn't vote at all last round and in fact never posted either, in spite of being logged on to Braingle yesterday.
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4demo


Posted: 07:53PM Nov 2, 2013

That's a good point about guamgirl, Bobbi. I didn't notice that she was online yesterday.

Also, it's interesting that this round started around 6 am Braingle Time. As a college student with a terrible sleep schedule, I could think of several reasons why I might be up late or early, but probably not at that time. Similarly, I'm sure people with young children, night or early morning jobs, etc. might be awake, but I've played with most U.S. players in this game and don't really remember rounds starting in the middle of the night.

This makes me think we might have a non-U.S. player for whom this would be a more regular time. Our international players are buu (India), guamgirl (Guam), Hadleigh (Australia), and nidhogg (UK). 6 am BT would be about 4:30 pm in India, 9 pm in Guam, 9 pm in Australia, and 11 am in the UK (might differ by an hour or so depending on where in the country), so these like more reasonable times for someone to be online.


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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HadleighAau


Posted: 08:04PM Nov 2, 2013

Froggy, if you are reading this, I am sorry I was wrong.

here's the voting list for last round.

4demo voted for vlerma
AngloSaxon70 voted for froggygg
bradon182001 voted for vlerma
buu441 voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for AngloSaxon70
froggygg voted for vlerma
Hadleigh voted for buu441
ICUB42 voted for froggygg
nidhogg voted for ICUB42
vlerma voted for AngloSaxon70



I didn't get back for the end of the round because of work commitments, Did the night round time out again?

I will join the majority on ICU.


Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
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ICUB42*us


Posted: 08:19PM Nov 2, 2013

*comes in and gasps*

Humans..pay close attention to those voting for me!!!...'cause I'm human!

Do what you must. But if I get shot, y'all gonna see I'm telling the truth. Come one..seriously, we need to get another wolf!


ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too. Yeah, that's what it means.
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HadleighAau


Posted: 08:45PM Nov 2, 2013

I am on more in the morning before I go to work which is evening BT. I am very rarely on at night because I work on a computer all day and by 5pm I'm over it.

Bobbi, I agree that Deb isn't playing her normal game. I am not so convinced that ICU is a wolf.

Changing to Deb/


Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
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4demo


Posted: 08:52PM Nov 2, 2013

Um, does ICU have any reason for voting for me other than saving herself from being shot (regardless of her role)?

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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HadleighAau


Posted: 08:52PM Nov 2, 2013

Sorry for the double post but I am more convinced that Deb could be a wolf.

Voting list so far..
4demo voted for ICUB42
AngloSaxon70 voted for ICUB42
bradon182001 voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for 4demo
Hadleigh voted for debc1
ICUB42 voted for 4demo
nidhogg voted for ICUB42


She voted for Demo and no statement why??


Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
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4demo


Posted: 09:13PM Nov 2, 2013

I seem to be a magnet for unexplained votes this round.

I agree that deb's behavior is rather strange and unhelpful at the least, but then, I feel she's made some whimsical moves in other games as well and ended up being human.


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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bradon182001*us


Posted: 09:56PM Nov 2, 2013

Changing my vote to Deb,and I'm still concerned about Guam, but more concerned about Deb at this point.
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4demo


Posted: 11:45PM Nov 2, 2013

Does anyone else want to stay up with me until 6 am BT to see who's online? I mean, it's really only until 5 am because of Daylight Savings ending!

Note: I'm not actually doing this. Just a reminder to turn back the clocks tonight!


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:04AM Nov 3, 2013

With just under 4 hours left in the game, the votes are currently tied at 3-3 for debc and ICUB. I am not really sure which one to vote for at the moment. Been through the round, and there seems to be people changing opinions quite often. Now that you guys mention it, the first post from debc does seem strange compared to the rest. And what 4demo said in the previous post, I think its somewhat unlikely. That would be a really risky double bluff by ICU with only 2 wolves remaining and with the seer still alive (as the mod hasn't stated otherwise). It is unlikely that both debc and ICU are wolves.

ICU wrote:
Humans..pay close attention to those voting for me!!!...'cause I'm human!

Do what you must. But if I get shot, y'all gonna see I'm telling the truth. Come one..seriously, we need to get another wolf!


I guess this post is what let me decide my vote for ICU. Seems awfully keen on self preservation (even with previous votes) whereas debc hasn't really tried as hard (actually hasn't been online since then). So I'll make the vote 4-3 against ICU. Hope I decided right.


Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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ICUB42*us


Posted: 01:08AM Nov 3, 2013

@4Demo...no, I really had no reason to vote for you (not at this time) ...I was just covering myself, at the time.

Deb?...you are acting kinda strange. *raising an eyebrow and switching my vote*


ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too. Yeah, that's what it means.
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4demo


Posted: 01:29AM Nov 3, 2013

ICUB42 wrote:
@4Demo...no, I really had no reason to vote for you (not at this time) ...I was just covering myself, at the time.

Deb?...you are acting kinda strange. *raising an eyebrow and switching my vote*


It's really hard to believe that you actually think deb is acting strangely and/or suspiciously enough to be a wolf, rather than simply piggybacking on a sentiment already voiced by others, in order to try to save yourself. You've just admitted that you voted for me only to cover for yourself, so it's a bit of a red flag to me that you suddenly switch to deb, who has not said anything since your last post and vote for me. Who says this isn't just another self-preserving move?

Classic tactic here would be if ICU and deb are both wolves, ICU recognizes that most likely one of them is bound to be shot, and attempts to switch her vote to deb last minute to try to save deb's hide next round... hmm.


"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
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