The Werewolf Game
Game #3228: New Year, New Wolf
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This game finished in 8 rounds.
Thank you, Skybet.
What is this round's word? That is the question.
And we lost Jayo, but he was not the seer, so there ya go.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
What is this round's word? That is the question.
And we lost Jayo, but he was not the seer, so there ya go.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Well, night timed out.... Expected I guess due to lots of inactives.
SPVing for now. LH it is.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
SPVing for now. LH it is.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Sad to see both HP and Jayo go.
I have to initial thoughts at the start of the round:
1)Longhorn hasn't logged in in 3 days. I'm all for getting the inactives first.
2) Spider was the one who made the deciding vote between HP, MND, and LH. If it were me I would have gone for Longhorn as he hadn't logged in for the longest, so the choice for HP strikes me as a bit suspicious. However, it does seem he at first didn't realize there were other nonvoters besides HP, and decided to just stick with HP anyway once he did realize, which strikes me as a believable story. So I am on the fence about Spider.
As there is already an SPV for Longhorn, I will cast an early vote for Spider. I'll be back in the evening after work to make a final decision.
I have to initial thoughts at the start of the round:
1)Longhorn hasn't logged in in 3 days. I'm all for getting the inactives first.
2) Spider was the one who made the deciding vote between HP, MND, and LH. If it were me I would have gone for Longhorn as he hadn't logged in for the longest, so the choice for HP strikes me as a bit suspicious. However, it does seem he at first didn't realize there were other nonvoters besides HP, and decided to just stick with HP anyway once he did realize, which strikes me as a believable story. So I am on the fence about Spider.
As there is already an SPV for Longhorn, I will cast an early vote for Spider. I'll be back in the evening after work to make a final decision.
I don't think spid has done a lot wrong, both were 2 days inactive if I remember rightly and Putter was fairly inactive the game before also which is why I voted for him myself, maybe spid felt the same. Breaking the tie for Putter IF one of LH or mnd proves to be a wolf then I'd take another look at him.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Need to review round 1, it strikes me as odd that no one (besides Sky/myself) moved votes to inactives, despite having 3 of them. I could be wrong about that (given my condition) so will check and adjust my stance if needed
Ok nvm, Jayo and Hoo switched votes. I did indeed vote HP thinking he was the sole inactive, but once I made the switch I saw no need to change (as Sky said he's been phoning it in last few games).
Knowing Jayo was human, we still have few votes that moved toward inactives at the end of the round (if LHF or MND are wolves/wolf, I would look at ccgirl as a good suspect, given she posted late into the round and avoided voting an inactive)
SPV for now
how is LHF gone 3 days anyway, wasnt she one of the last 3 who jumped in and got the game started
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Ok nvm, Jayo and Hoo switched votes. I did indeed vote HP thinking he was the sole inactive, but once I made the switch I saw no need to change (as Sky said he's been phoning it in last few games).
Knowing Jayo was human, we still have few votes that moved toward inactives at the end of the round (if LHF or MND are wolves/wolf, I would look at ccgirl as a good suspect, given she posted late into the round and avoided voting an inactive)
SPV for now
how is LHF gone 3 days anyway, wasnt she one of the last 3 who jumped in and got the game started
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The_Spider wrote:
Pardon me, kind sir?
Please don't attribute things to me I did not say nor do. It is unbecoming of you, even if you do lack the graces of a proper Southern gentleman. You still must remember you are addressing a proper Southern lady. Now see here, I had to get my reading glasses and look back to even begin to ascertain what you were going on about.
Now then, as I look back to the previous chapter of this thing called Werewolf, I see that my most previous writings were in fact not writings at all, but the illustration of a well-imbibed spider, which you presented yourself to be. I was on my way to bed, and did not return to this here game until the round was over. Based on your last post in that round, there remained at least seven hours of activity, and the hunt for inactives did not commence until after I had taken my leave.
Phew. Now that that unpleasantness has been dealt with, I shall cast my lot, or vote as it were, for a random player among us. I will deal with this inactive business a bit later in the day. In the meantime, I shall have our British servant Jeeves go fetch me a mint julep and a hot toddy. I'm not sure how hot or cold it will be today, and I wish to be prepared for all possible outcomes.
Signed,
Ms. Clementine Cecelia Calilabee Girl
Knowing Jayo was human, we still have few votes that moved toward inactives at the end of the round (if LHF or MND are wolves/wolf, I would look at ccgirl as a good suspect, given she posted late into the round and avoided voting an inactive)
Pardon me, kind sir?
Please don't attribute things to me I did not say nor do. It is unbecoming of you, even if you do lack the graces of a proper Southern gentleman. You still must remember you are addressing a proper Southern lady. Now see here, I had to get my reading glasses and look back to even begin to ascertain what you were going on about.
Now then, as I look back to the previous chapter of this thing called Werewolf, I see that my most previous writings were in fact not writings at all, but the illustration of a well-imbibed spider, which you presented yourself to be. I was on my way to bed, and did not return to this here game until the round was over. Based on your last post in that round, there remained at least seven hours of activity, and the hunt for inactives did not commence until after I had taken my leave.
Phew. Now that that unpleasantness has been dealt with, I shall cast my lot, or vote as it were, for a random player among us. I will deal with this inactive business a bit later in the day. In the meantime, I shall have our British servant Jeeves go fetch me a mint julep and a hot toddy. I'm not sure how hot or cold it will be today, and I wish to be prepared for all possible outcomes.
Signed,
Ms. Clementine Cecelia Calilabee Girl
P. S. Spider don't get mad. I'm trying a different character in my quest for excessive verbosity, and therefore immunity.
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CC derserves immunity for that entertaining post alone
I think Spider deserves consideration as does Sky
Put despite my feeling that night was understandably allowed to run long I'm going for someone yet to contribute to the cause
It is changeable, if everyone shows up I'll probably switch
I never make mitsakes
I think Spider deserves consideration as does Sky
Put despite my feeling that night was understandably allowed to run long I'm going for someone yet to contribute to the cause
It is changeable, if everyone shows up I'll probably switch
I never make mitsakes
Let me distill this post down significantly.
I voted an inactive in Round 1 (as did Sky, in far less suspicious circumstances than I did) so at the very least the 'consider' Sky analysis seems a little lazy. If MND/LHF are wolf(s) by all means expand the scope to me, but if they are human, last round is evidence I am human (why would I really care), If you suspect A is a wolf protecting B....you really need to know what B is before you aim for A...so a illogical vote strategy you have proposed
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I voted an inactive in Round 1 (as did Sky, in far less suspicious circumstances than I did) so at the very least the 'consider' Sky analysis seems a little lazy. If MND/LHF are wolf(s) by all means expand the scope to me, but if they are human, last round is evidence I am human (why would I really care), If you suspect A is a wolf protecting B....you really need to know what B is before you aim for A...so a illogical vote strategy you have proposed
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Waylander wrote:
*curtsies*
CC derserves immunity for that entertaining post alone
*curtsies*
Spider:
Harry Putter was the worst choice of the 3 inactives in my view.
There was already a 3 way tie on all inactives, by breaking the tie, and so late in the round then it raises suspicion regardless
The only way it would not have looked bad is if HP was a wolf.
To be clear, your actions put you on my radar but it was not necessarily a wolf move.
If either Music or Longhorn turn out to be a wolf then it will look worse for you.
Sky's casual defending of your actions raise him onto my radar too - hmm maybe the Seer should divine one of Sky or Spider just to be safe
Surely Longhorn would have been a better shot, you took it off Music and the reason I voted Longhorn this round is that you voted Music. I suspect it is possible you were dropping a harmless wolf/wolf SPV in round 1 that turned into a competing majority with Jayo's vote for Music.
Jayo was also eaten which really isn't helping me to suspect you any less.
I never make mitsakes
Harry Putter was the worst choice of the 3 inactives in my view.
There was already a 3 way tie on all inactives, by breaking the tie, and so late in the round then it raises suspicion regardless
The only way it would not have looked bad is if HP was a wolf.
To be clear, your actions put you on my radar but it was not necessarily a wolf move.
If either Music or Longhorn turn out to be a wolf then it will look worse for you.
Sky's casual defending of your actions raise him onto my radar too - hmm maybe the Seer should divine one of Sky or Spider just to be safe
Surely Longhorn would have been a better shot, you took it off Music and the reason I voted Longhorn this round is that you voted Music. I suspect it is possible you were dropping a harmless wolf/wolf SPV in round 1 that turned into a competing majority with Jayo's vote for Music.
Jayo was also eaten which really isn't helping me to suspect you any less.
I never make mitsakes
Waylander wrote:
This actually makes a lot of sense to me. Keeping my vote momentarily to give Longhorn a chance to come on and defend herself, but will willingly switch for a sensible majority later. And if Longhorn is a wolf, then Spider becomes a much more viable suspect as well. If not, well, back to the drawing board.
Spider:
Harry Putter was the worst choice of the 3 inactives in my view.
There was already a 3 way tie on all inactives, by breaking the tie, and so late in the round then it raises suspicion regardless
The only way it would not have looked bad is if HP was a wolf.
To be clear, your actions put you on my radar but it was not necessarily a wolf move.
If either Music or Longhorn turn out to be a wolf then it will look worse for you.
Sky's casual defending of your actions raise him onto my radar too - hmm maybe the Seer should divine one of Sky or Spider just to be safe
Surely Longhorn would have been a better shot, you took it off Music and the reason I voted Longhorn this round is that you voted Music. I suspect it is possible you were dropping a harmless wolf/wolf SPV in round 1 that turned into a competing majority with Jayo's vote for Music.
Jayo was also eaten which really isn't helping me to suspect you any less.
Harry Putter was the worst choice of the 3 inactives in my view.
There was already a 3 way tie on all inactives, by breaking the tie, and so late in the round then it raises suspicion regardless
The only way it would not have looked bad is if HP was a wolf.
To be clear, your actions put you on my radar but it was not necessarily a wolf move.
If either Music or Longhorn turn out to be a wolf then it will look worse for you.
Sky's casual defending of your actions raise him onto my radar too - hmm maybe the Seer should divine one of Sky or Spider just to be safe
Surely Longhorn would have been a better shot, you took it off Music and the reason I voted Longhorn this round is that you voted Music. I suspect it is possible you were dropping a harmless wolf/wolf SPV in round 1 that turned into a competing majority with Jayo's vote for Music.
Jayo was also eaten which really isn't helping me to suspect you any less.
This actually makes a lot of sense to me. Keeping my vote momentarily to give Longhorn a chance to come on and defend herself, but will willingly switch for a sensible majority later. And if Longhorn is a wolf, then Spider becomes a much more viable suspect as well. If not, well, back to the drawing board.
Why was Harry any worse than the other two. Any player who can be one of the last 3 to join a game (and manage to fail to post in Round 1) is a fine shot. I dont look at login times, especially with 10 minutes left in a round I just woke up for ( I consider it a responsibility to at least check in, I am frightfully alone most of the time in that regard)
This is setting aside the outright dismissal of my explanation for why I voted HP in the first place.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
This is setting aside the outright dismissal of my explanation for why I voted HP in the first place.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The_Spider wrote:
My vote was for caberet when I went to bed, and she came on later, so technically, I was voting for an inactive. I'm going to vote for deb as a filler vote for now. I could vote for inactives, or if there is a majority later on.
Ooooooh! Nice!
Need to review round 1, it strikes me as odd that no one (besides Sky/myself) moved votes to inactives, despite having 3 of them. I could be wrong about that (given my condition) so will check and adjust my stance if needed
My vote was for caberet when I went to bed, and she came on later, so technically, I was voting for an inactive. I'm going to vote for deb as a filler vote for now. I could vote for inactives, or if there is a majority later on.
Ooooooh! Nice!
SPV for kz, mostly as a placeholder until the round progresses.
I had switched to an inactive last round, but the reluctance to vote Longhorn baffled me. Historically, HP and music have been very active - as to whether either of them has been less so recently is beyond my knowledge. I'm willing to vote an inactive out again this round if that is the majority flow.
Defensiveness is usually a more human trait, in my opinion, so Spider isn't on my wolf radar just yet.
I had switched to an inactive last round, but the reluctance to vote Longhorn baffled me. Historically, HP and music have been very active - as to whether either of them has been less so recently is beyond my knowledge. I'm willing to vote an inactive out again this round if that is the majority flow.
Defensiveness is usually a more human trait, in my opinion, so Spider isn't on my wolf radar just yet.
To be or not to be, mod? Or is this round's word Shakespeare? LOL
So sorry CCCgirl that I didn't get back on to remove my vote from you. I would never have disobeyed the rules of the moderator. I'm not sure who may or may not be suspicious its too soon to tell. My wolf radar is a bit out of wack as displayed in the last game where Spider confusdigated me. With night timing out we don't have to worry about anyone bussing another wolf. I'm going to spv for someone with no vote at this time and see...although I am inclined to vote for an inactive. That could easily be a trick of the wolves to make us think it is an inactive.
Edit to add: Waylander gets my vote. I think in the early rounds especially a wolf would vote a fellow wolf, one to look human doing so and two, to keep the nights a little shorter. It is an SPV with a little thought.
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Edit to add: Waylander gets my vote. I think in the early rounds especially a wolf would vote a fellow wolf, one to look human doing so and two, to keep the nights a little shorter. It is an SPV with a little thought.
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Hey I am here
It has snowed today
Very surprised this game has gone with Harry and jayo, also a little surprised Dan voted Harry over the others.
I also agree about enjoying cc's posts (dan is a yankee) so I will have my toddy in the parlor.
For some reason I am not suspecting sky baby yet.
Maybe I will make a deb's list(however worthless it is) later on.
We have to have at least one active wolf.
Will vote for someone but is totally changeable.
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It has snowed today
Very surprised this game has gone with Harry and jayo, also a little surprised Dan voted Harry over the others.
I also agree about enjoying cc's posts (dan is a yankee) so I will have my toddy in the parlor.
For some reason I am not suspecting sky baby yet.
Maybe I will make a deb's list(however worthless it is) later on.
We have to have at least one active wolf.
Will vote for someone but is totally changeable.
This space is intentionally left blank.
strictly a random vote for sky. I want to give Longhorn a chance to come in. I'll switch over in a few hours if she doesn't show up.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Your love gave me memories too beautiful to forget.
Harry needed a kick in the pants, I have no regrets
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
cccgirl wrote:
Nay, forsooth, no such clue was intended
It's a disease, not a punch line
To be or not to be, mod? Or is this round's word Shakespeare? LOL
Nay, forsooth, no such clue was intended
It's a disease, not a punch line
Smack...I came in on a doozie!
HP shot round one and Jayo eaten.....Nasty.
Sorry for my absence. Busy days with the kiddo in the snow.
SPv for now, but a bit of thought might be added ;)
Like what you love, and love what you got.
HP shot round one and Jayo eaten.....Nasty.
Sorry for my absence. Busy days with the kiddo in the snow.
SPv for now, but a bit of thought might be added ;)
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Sophie-Drake wrote:
Sophie, I'm not really following your logic at all
Who is the 'fellow wolf'?
I never make mitsakes
Edit to add: Waylander gets my vote. I think in the early rounds especially a wolf would vote a fellow wolf, one to look human doing so and two, to keep the nights a little shorter. It is an SPV with a little thought.
Sophie, I'm not really following your logic at all
Who is the 'fellow wolf'?
I never make mitsakes
Sorry for missing last round, I forgot to log in. Rest assured it won't happen again.
CC, that was a very entertaining post, I enjoyed reading it
2 pretty active players gone... ouch. At least neither were the seer.
My vote goes to our last inactive-cab
CC, that was a very entertaining post, I enjoyed reading it
2 pretty active players gone... ouch. At least neither were the seer.
My vote goes to our last inactive-cab
Well with the return of the inactives this becomes more interesting, though I would like to see a content based post from each music/LHF
I follow Sophie's thought process, but I wouldn't call it a logical approach, more in a little while, semi busy atm
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I follow Sophie's thought process, but I wouldn't call it a logical approach, more in a little while, semi busy atm
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Ok, so I think all the players are here except caberet, and she was here last round. Everyone else is suspicious of Spider, because he voted HarryPutter, but he's contributing. I have no idea about the word. I was going to do divine, but I think waylander said it already. Sophie, I agree, a wolf would vote a fellow wolf, perhaps to say "I voted _____, I must be human." I don't know. Spider and Jayo did it in the last game and they were 'suspicious' of each other, so nobody suspected them as pairs. Before bed, I'm going to start a majority, maybe to get some more thought.
I didn't mention it before though, I also enjoyed reading cccgirls post.
Edit: Braingle needs a "Back to Bottom" button. All this scrolling
Edit 2: I'm going to add to the majority on longhorn. She's inactive anyways. If she comes on, I can't remove my vote, but y'all can change it if you want.
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Ooooooh! Nice!
I didn't mention it before though, I also enjoyed reading cccgirls post.
Edit: Braingle needs a "Back to Bottom" button. All this scrolling
Edit 2: I'm going to add to the majority on longhorn. She's inactive anyways. If she comes on, I can't remove my vote, but y'all can change it if you want.
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Ooooooh! Nice!
I'm also one who considers spider suspicious for voting out HP. HP and Spider are usually rather protective of each other..Strange times indeed..
My vote is a space saver for now. Changeable based upon future events.
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
My vote is a space saver for now. Changeable based upon future events.
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Well, caberet is here now, albeit late in the round. I guess longhorn is our vote then?
Ooooooh! Nice!
Ooooooh! Nice!
Could we be less lazy with our analysis please, Im allowed to vote Harry Especially as Ive explained ad nauseum what prompted me to do so. Disconcerting that the previous inactives, who in my view were granted '2nd life' would be minimally forthcoming at this juncture, definitely factoring it in to my potential vote.
The only possible reasonable situation I could be a wolf is if LHF is one, Ill grant that, and will explain with considerable ease if LHF ever flips human why you all can cool your jets.
10 hours left does not mean much at night, so the time for final thoughts/actions is fast approaching.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The only possible reasonable situation I could be a wolf is if LHF is one, Ill grant that, and will explain with considerable ease if LHF ever flips human why you all can cool your jets.
10 hours left does not mean much at night, so the time for final thoughts/actions is fast approaching.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
bRIN voted for Skybet
caberet voted for The_Spider
cccgirl voted for Sophie-Drake
debc1 voted for bRIN
DrHoo voted for kzmonopoly
kzmonopoly voted for Longhorn_fan
Longhorn_fan voted for musicneverdies
musicneverdies voted for caberet
oddrey voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for Longhorn_fan
Sophie-Drake voted for Waylander
The_Spider voted for musicneverdies
Waylander voted for Longhorn_fan
Edit: Note in the case you consider Spid/Music/LHF the below doesn't necessarily apply....
Oh, well since this is only a LHF self preservation vote from a tie, I might as well make it clear. Let me ask any wolf who considers themselves 'reasonably effective' You are in round 1, you have an inactive partner, You log on at the very very end of the round (you are essentially assured of being last to act ) and find them in a 3 way tie (you are one of the voters in that 3 way tie). How many of you would take your 2/3 chance that your inactive (liability) partner survives?
The answer is pretty obvious, all but maybe the most squeamish would take your chances in the 3 way.
If Music is my partner, I would even have the advantage of voting for my partner should she end up being shot (with a chance to post a final...leaving the tie type post to ward off Waylanders 'Round 1 bus SPV' theory. Furthermore, if Music is my partner, why in a million years would i vote Harry over LHF. Pretty obvious conclusion, its not Music/Spider.
Voting Harry obviously brings comical levels of scrutiny so no real reason to do it as a wolf unless Im protecting a partner, ergo, unless I was protecting LHF, there is no reason to consider me a wolf, ergo any one who votes me over LHF must have a completely different and very compelling reason for doing so.
Last note: I find the wolf cutesy votes for a wolf cliche and tiresome by now, I didn't vote a fellow wolf once last game, and made a deliberate effort to NOT suspect Jayo as far as could be reasonable (with 5 players left obviously you have to at some point).
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
caberet voted for The_Spider
cccgirl voted for Sophie-Drake
debc1 voted for bRIN
DrHoo voted for kzmonopoly
kzmonopoly voted for Longhorn_fan
Longhorn_fan voted for musicneverdies
musicneverdies voted for caberet
oddrey voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for Longhorn_fan
Sophie-Drake voted for Waylander
The_Spider voted for musicneverdies
Waylander voted for Longhorn_fan
Edit: Note in the case you consider Spid/Music/LHF the below doesn't necessarily apply....
Oh, well since this is only a LHF self preservation vote from a tie, I might as well make it clear. Let me ask any wolf who considers themselves 'reasonably effective' You are in round 1, you have an inactive partner, You log on at the very very end of the round (you are essentially assured of being last to act ) and find them in a 3 way tie (you are one of the voters in that 3 way tie). How many of you would take your 2/3 chance that your inactive (liability) partner survives?
The answer is pretty obvious, all but maybe the most squeamish would take your chances in the 3 way.
If Music is my partner, I would even have the advantage of voting for my partner should she end up being shot (with a chance to post a final...leaving the tie type post to ward off Waylanders 'Round 1 bus SPV' theory. Furthermore, if Music is my partner, why in a million years would i vote Harry over LHF. Pretty obvious conclusion, its not Music/Spider.
Voting Harry obviously brings comical levels of scrutiny so no real reason to do it as a wolf unless Im protecting a partner, ergo, unless I was protecting LHF, there is no reason to consider me a wolf, ergo any one who votes me over LHF must have a completely different and very compelling reason for doing so.
Last note: I find the wolf cutesy votes for a wolf cliche and tiresome by now, I didn't vote a fellow wolf once last game, and made a deliberate effort to NOT suspect Jayo as far as could be reasonable (with 5 players left obviously you have to at some point).
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Yikes, after reading through the rounds I am at a bit of a loss. I always kind of hope for in actives earlier in the game so I don't have to make an actual decision, but now that everyone has shown up I have to bite the bullet. Going to keep my vote on Spider. There is a decent chance I will make it back in a few hours to check back in to the round one last time, so that vote is not yet set in stone.
Again, unless you have a completely different reason for suspecting me, there is almost no justification to vote me over LHF (or Music to a lesser degree)
So long as you agree to one basic assumption: I could reasonably expect shooting human harry to bring significant scrutiny on me.
If you grant this assumption, and that I would avoid significant scrutiny unless there was significant upside for it you have to pick one of these conditions to claim I'm a wolf
My partners are neither LHF or Music
Here I am just taking significant suspicion for no reason at all, therefore its quite unlikely I am a wolf UNLESS at least of LHF/Music is a wolf
BOTH my partners are LHF/Music
Have no 'defense' to this situation, it certainly is possible from your perspective, but again, shooting me first would be tactically dubious
Music is my partner
Explained why this is unlikely above, the 2/3 chance of a save is a great spot to be in with a Rd 1 inactive, and Id have shot LHF over HP had I decided I needed to protect Music
LHF is my partner
No real defense to this situation either, but again, me being a wolf is prerequisite upon LHF being a wolf, so again, shooting me first is tactically dubious
If Deb decides I just 'feel' like a wolf, so be it, she at least has standing to make gut reads, but for most, voting me at this point in time is just stubbornly and recklessly disregarding a well reasoned defense. Nothing about this is convoluted or contrived, wolves don't ask for unnecessary heat, and there is no information to gain by shooting me ahead of LHF/Music.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
So long as you agree to one basic assumption: I could reasonably expect shooting human harry to bring significant scrutiny on me.
If you grant this assumption, and that I would avoid significant scrutiny unless there was significant upside for it you have to pick one of these conditions to claim I'm a wolf
My partners are neither LHF or Music
Here I am just taking significant suspicion for no reason at all, therefore its quite unlikely I am a wolf UNLESS at least of LHF/Music is a wolf
BOTH my partners are LHF/Music
Have no 'defense' to this situation, it certainly is possible from your perspective, but again, shooting me first would be tactically dubious
Music is my partner
Explained why this is unlikely above, the 2/3 chance of a save is a great spot to be in with a Rd 1 inactive, and Id have shot LHF over HP had I decided I needed to protect Music
LHF is my partner
No real defense to this situation either, but again, me being a wolf is prerequisite upon LHF being a wolf, so again, shooting me first is tactically dubious
If Deb decides I just 'feel' like a wolf, so be it, she at least has standing to make gut reads, but for most, voting me at this point in time is just stubbornly and recklessly disregarding a well reasoned defense. Nothing about this is convoluted or contrived, wolves don't ask for unnecessary heat, and there is no information to gain by shooting me ahead of LHF/Music.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Okay I'm running with my gut and voting Spider
I never make mitsakes
I never make mitsakes
Lol awful, wwg where anything BUT logic is in play, it's also quite bad to recommend a seer divine someone, and then vote that person
Voting lhf
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Voting lhf
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I'm a MENSA member and am making an unheard of statement: I'm tired of thinking.
We have a rule in trivia: if your second and third guess makes as much sense as the first, go with the first.
Voting Longhorn, as she did show up but then put forth no reasonable defense whatsoever (and may go inactive again).
For me, the arachnid debate will wait.
P.S. Last chance immunity bingo: hopefully something I've said this day or night will be a winner, a successful attempt. Let us lynch a wolfy one. And tonight, I pray I will not be eaten. Amen.
We have a rule in trivia: if your second and third guess makes as much sense as the first, go with the first.
Voting Longhorn, as she did show up but then put forth no reasonable defense whatsoever (and may go inactive again).
For me, the arachnid debate will wait.
P.S. Last chance immunity bingo: hopefully something I've said this day or night will be a winner, a successful attempt. Let us lynch a wolfy one. And tonight, I pray I will not be eaten. Amen.
Also, glad y'all liked the post. If I make it to Round 3, I'll have to top that somehow.
It's very simple case,
If you shoot me and I'm human, you'll go after lhf, nothing gained
If you shoot me I'm wolf, you'll go after lhf.....obviously no change in strategy
If you shoot lhf and she's wolf, you go after me (reasomably)
If you shoot lhf and she's human, you likely don't go after me.....info gained
Ego rules the day again. Harry gets shot, for being an inactive, it's mortal sin. I leave a strong case why
I'm a bad shot (at this stage), and it's not even addressed amidst a vote, this is basic and obvious logic.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
If you shoot me and I'm human, you'll go after lhf, nothing gained
If you shoot me I'm wolf, you'll go after lhf.....obviously no change in strategy
If you shoot lhf and she's wolf, you go after me (reasomably)
If you shoot lhf and she's human, you likely don't go after me.....info gained
Ego rules the day again. Harry gets shot, for being an inactive, it's mortal sin. I leave a strong case why
I'm a bad shot (at this stage), and it's not even addressed amidst a vote, this is basic and obvious logic.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
But the majority is shooting LH, not you, so it's even simpler than that. If LH is human, Round 3 will be interesting. If LH is wolf, it will be less interesting as we will all shoot you. So really, we're spinning our wheels until nighttime. It's too late in the round and the day for much to change.
Settle down, Yankee
Settle down, Yankee
It takes 7 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bRIN voted for Skybet
caberet voted for The_Spider
cccgirl voted for Longhorn_fan
debc1 voted for bRIN
DrHoo voted for kzmonopoly
kzmonopoly voted for Longhorn_fan
Longhorn_fan voted for musicneverdies
musicneverdies voted for caberet
oddrey voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for Longhorn_fan
Sophie-Drake voted for Waylander
The_Spider voted for Longhorn_fan
Waylander voted for The_Spider
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
bRIN voted for Skybet
caberet voted for The_Spider
cccgirl voted for Longhorn_fan
debc1 voted for bRIN
DrHoo voted for kzmonopoly
kzmonopoly voted for Longhorn_fan
Longhorn_fan voted for musicneverdies
musicneverdies voted for caberet
oddrey voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for Longhorn_fan
Sophie-Drake voted for Waylander
The_Spider voted for Longhorn_fan
Waylander voted for The_Spider
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
You know that train thought experiment, where you can pull a lever and divert the train so only one person dies, or don't do anything and many people die? They say people prefer to let more people die through inaction. Well I am feeling that right now. I am now leaning towards Spider being human, but I don't particularly suspect anyone else either. So I can not change my vote and through inaction vote for someone I don't think is a wolf, or change it and actively vote for someone else I don't think is a wolf. The inaction feels better, but I know that is just that bias talking. So as an exercise in recognizing and overcoming bias, I am changing my vote to Longhorn_fan.
Edit: I just looked it up, apparently this is called omission bias
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Edit: I just looked it up, apparently this is called omission bias
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Five hours left in the round and so far no secret word. I will definitely not be online before round end - it's bedtime!
So no winner this round. I'll file the word away for future use.
It's a disease, not a punch line
So no winner this round. I'll file the word away for future use.
It's a disease, not a punch line
Longhorn was human.
It's a disease, not a punch line
It's a disease, not a punch line
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