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The Werewolf Game #2928

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 6 rounds.

Discussion of Round #3

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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 01:43PM Jun 15, 2013

Thanks Freak! I want to first clear up something from last round - I have spoken to Freakshow and now know and understand ho is doesn't want to break the rules but isn't cheating. What he is doing is perfectly within the rules

NO FOR THE BIG REVEAL:

There were 15 players in the game to start
12 Humans
1 Seer
1 Cryptkeeper/Backup Seer (Now ID'd as Stewie)
1 WIHC

3 Wolves
1 Rogue Wolf (Now ID'd as Koin)
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There are now 11 players in the game

9 Humans
1 Seer
0 Cryptkeeper/Backup Seer
1 WIHC

2 Wolves
0 Rogue Wolf

******* YOU HAVE LOST YOUR CRYPTKEEPER /BACK-UP SEER and the Rogue Wolf has also been killed. *************

CLUES TO WHICH PLAYERS WERE WHICH:

I wonder if the spokesperson for a cereal that includes "Pink Hearts and "Yellow Moons" likes his meat cooked to between 333°K - 335°K
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Get in your WABAC Machine and travel with these collaborators of the Brothers Chaps to a time of questionable fashions that included trousers that a skydiver may use. Once there you will come across a song that may help you discover the identity of your Rogue Wolf.
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I'll take square triangular numbers for 200 Alex:

The words of their mouths are wicked and deceitful;
they fail to act wisely or do good.
4 Even on their beds they plot evil;
they commit themselves to a sinful course
and do not reject what is wrong.
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Though it was mechanical error and not willful malice that caused 128 people to be killed when a plane crashed into an apartment complex in Tehran, one can not help but to remember a much more tragic event several years earlier. Like those involved in this mishap, the player to whom it points harbors no ill will.


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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 01:47PM Jun 15, 2013

Checked activity levels and everyone has logged in today so no help there. :/

Looks like I was right about kaipper being human.

Gonna hold off on voting until we hear from HABS

Edit: Third clue points to kaipper I think. It's psalm 36:3-4. 36 is a square triangular number and kaipper has submitted 36 teasers.


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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 03:46PM Jun 15, 2013

Ok well, it's not looking too good on the human front. Personally I think Jayo is probably human and freak is probably human (though he may be the WIHC he can be quite tricky)

Otherwise it seems like Yuffie is trying to fly under the radar a bit so I'll put my vote on her for now (highly subject to change).

EDIT: so HABS are we or aren't we doing the last rites thing, or was the crypt keeper meant to relay stuff?


Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 03:50PM Jun 15, 2013

None of the players who have died have sent them to me. THey've all been told they only have until the end of this round.
The ones I asked said they didn't really have much to add. Other than "Good Luck".


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 03:55PM Jun 15, 2013

Hey HABS you said you would tell us if we got the clues right, is that right?

Edit: pretty sure join was the rogue wolf. Following the clue, I found my way to a band called they might be giants. They have a song called particle man in which there is a character named triangle man. Look on his page and you will see something about triangles being dangerous or something like that.


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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 04:18PM Jun 15, 2013

Wow, you got that way faster than I was expecting! Yes, that clue is indeed pointing to Kaipper. (she has submitted 36 quizzes hence the Jeopardy reference).
Your Koin guess is also right.


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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 04:33PM Jun 15, 2013

In that case my vote goes to Yuffie who seemed to be trying to defend koin last round.

Edit to fix auto correct t fail......


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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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JayoAie


Posted: 04:47PM Jun 15, 2013

J-Boy wrote:
Ok well, it's not looking too good on the human front


One wolf down after 2 rounds...I'd count that as a better than average start.
The fact that there is a WIHC doesn't affect the fact that we are 2 well aimed bullets away from the win

The TBs offer a decent platform to narrow your suspect list and I'm feeling a wolf vibe from Jboy

Voting that way for now


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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YuffieAus


Posted: 07:23PM Jun 15, 2013

J-Boy wrote:
it seems like Yuffie is trying to fly under the radar a bit


How am I flying under the radar? I post all the time

freakshow07 wrote:
In that case my vote goes to Yuffie who seemed to be trying to defend koin last round.


It wasn't so much me defending Koin as it was me suspecting you of fowl play. But, since HABS says you're within-rules then I guess you are to be trusted; sorry for misjudging you.

I'm also surprised at how last round went down - I was specifically trying to NOT be in a majority & we end up going with Stewie b/c he was the most inactive? I don't have much "evidence" towards one person or another (I was mostly suspecting Freakshow but he seems to likely be human) but we seem to be shooting pretty randomly; yes we got a wolf but we also got our cryptkeeper

Edit: I'll join Jayo's vote on Jboy for now.


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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 08:10PM Jun 15, 2013

It's also possible yuffie that the wolves ate the crypt keeper. Unfortunately as far as I can tell the clues don't indicate who was the crypt keeper was, and if they do I have no way to tell how I do suspect that the first one leads to Stewie and the last to deb. I haven't found the precise connections though besides the cereal being lucky charms and Stewie being from Ireland. The meat temperature described in the clue is medium and doing a search of Stewie medium I found an episode of family guy titled extra large medium but I really don't think thats the connection HABS had in mind.

Edit to yet again fix a typo


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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 08:20PM Jun 15, 2013

Wow Freakshow, you just blew all those clues right out of the water. Solving them with ease. I expected them to take a bit longer. I'll have to make them harder next time.
You have the last two associated with the right people but the clues also tell you their roles. People help him out! He has all but solved the Stewie clue! If/When you give up on it, let me know, I'll tell you. You really only need to finish one of the clues to figure out who both of them were.


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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 09:01PM Jun 15, 2013

I am so sorry for being inactive. Such a busy weekend.. My sis just had her 16th birthday party. I also had the end of year party for volleyball. Busy busy.. anyway voting for Yuffie.
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EliosAus


Posted: 09:10PM Jun 15, 2013

I don't agree with the weak reasoning freak brought up for voting Yuffie. His reasons for voting Stewie last round were equally as weak; Stewie didn't need to be shot just because he was quiet during the Day - he's a good player, why take him out so easily? And freak's hiding behind mysterious reasons for taking koin out. Not complaining on that one, since he turned out to be a wolf, but if that's the case, why so much half-secrecy? He's working hard on these clues, so I don't suspect him of bein' furry, but I also don't see a real reason to follow his lead.

These last two rounds have just been people jumping on random bandwagons. We still have our Seer, so I'll SPV, but unless someone comes up with actual reasons, I'm not joining such wishy-washy majorities. I'm going to go with my own gut and vote for Fleetwood. Despite saying she was sticking with her kaipper vote last round, she switched without posting to bandwagon on Stewie. Then again, this round, she's jumping on the Yuffie vote without positing her own reasons. Way too convenient for the wolves, these random majorities...

Edit to add: Changed vote to Fleetwood.


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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 09:40PM Jun 15, 2013

Ah. Got the deb clue connection. The crash happened on dec 6, 2005 which is also her join date. Not sure how I missed that earlier. Still working on her identity though.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 09:46PM Jun 15, 2013

Oh did you not get the Deb clue before? I thought you had, but I guess with only two clues and knowing one points to Jayo and one points to Deb, if you solve one as being Jayo, by default the other has to be Deb.

Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 10:06PM Jun 15, 2013

Ah. I found something about Irish mediums that (supposedly) have the ability to speak to the dead, which would make Stewie the crypt keeper. Is that it HABS?

By now I think you all know why I had to edit


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Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:21PM Jun 15, 2013

Well it wasn't necessarily Irish mediums I was going for rather just mediums in general. But yes you figured it out.
So now you know that Deb was just a human which was suggested by the last line in the clue that says
Like those involved in this mishap, the player to whom it points harbors no ill will.

This was meant to show that she had no ulterior motives in the game.


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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 10:26PM Jun 15, 2013

So question: with Stewie dead does the dead talk box still exist just for fun or does it go away because it is pointless?

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:38PM Jun 15, 2013

IT is still there and I will keep inviting the dead to it. I know I enjoy games in which the dead players can still discuss the game.

Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:45PM Jun 15, 2013

Checking in for the night. Great job on the clues, Freakshow! Sorry I wasn't any help - weekends are busy for me ^_^.

So I was right in thinking the random voting was detrimental; poor Stewie didn't even get the chance to play around with his special role

I'll hopefully be back on before the round ends but just in case I don't, I'm switching my vote to Fleetwood . Elios' theory seems more sound to me than the one for Jboy & right now I'm in the hot-seat so it's really only one or the other....


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 11:58PM Jun 15, 2013

Well it is 1AM here, so I think I'm heading to bed for a few hours. I'll be back no later than 6AM to check back in. Not that I expect much activity between now and then as most of the remaining players are in North America and are probably in bed. Of course it is Sunday morning for the Europeans and Sunday afternoon for J-Boy so I guess I could miss a lot!
Next set of identities will be given in Round 6 (if it goes that far).


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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 03:23AM Jun 16, 2013

Jayo wrote:
J-Boy wrote:
Ok well, it's not looking too good on the human front


One wolf down after 2 rounds...I'd count that as a better than average start.
The fact that there is a WIHC doesn't affect the fact that we are 2 well aimed bullets away from the win

The TBs offer a decent platform to narrow your suspect list and I'm feeling a wolf vibe from Jboy

Voting that way for now


But Jayo the wolf we lost was working for the humans, not against us.
And we have lost our crypt keeper and we have a fake human in our midst ...

I don't think you're a wolf though (or the WIHC either)

O and Yuffie just because you post a lot doesn't mean you aren't flying under the radar. I was referring to the fact that you don't seem to be suspicious of anyone.
In any case I'm going to keep my vote where it is for now. Not sure why fleet just blindly followed me though

EDIT: O and Yuffie, you forgot to change your vote


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Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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jeminyten


Posted: 04:52AM Jun 16, 2013

Well, I think that both freak and Longhorn are human, which is not really helping me much in this situation.

The only strong evidence I can find is Fleetwood joining the majority most of the rounds without posting. Elios has found that so it isn't much of a discovery but that is where my vote is going. Plus, it makes this round very intresting with the votes

SPVing Fleetwood


I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 05:08AM Jun 16, 2013

I'm back, and as I suspected there wasn't much activity overnight (except by those for whom it wasn't really night). Not expecting a fury of activity today, with it being Father's Day.Luckily most of the day will be spent in the night round where there is nothing going on anyway.

I will be here all day, my father isn't around - he and my mother are travelling and spending my inheritance. Last I heard, they were somewhere in upstate New York. No clue when they'll be back. Must be nice to have nothing else to do with your time!


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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 06:26AM Jun 16, 2013

Eh Idk guys I really don't think fleetwood is a wolf. WIHC maybe but doubtful of regular wolf.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 07:35AM Jun 16, 2013

I agree with freak here. But I don't think fleet is the WIHC either. Elios seemed quite eager to protect Yuffie so that is where my vote will stay.

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 08:08AM Jun 16, 2013

The whole time I have been thinking that freak is WIHC, not a regular wolf.

He has seemed suspicious the whole time.
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kurtis626A


Posted: 08:27AM Jun 16, 2013

Wow! I missed almost all of the day round! Did the night round not time out? It seemed short.

I'm not sure who to vote.

jeminy has my suspicion as of now. Her reasoning for voting seems wolfish to me. She's SPVing in the 3rd round and not picking a random name, but following the crowd? Hmmmm.....That's where my vote is going.


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Treat others as you would like to be treated because that would make the world a better place to be. That is if you like to be treated with love and respect.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:45AM Jun 16, 2013

J-Boy wrote:
O and Yuffie, you forgot to change your vote


Thanks - I noticed when I came back on & saw that my vote was still on J-Boy. I swear I changed it but I guess it didn't save. Luckily I came on in time!

I have had several suspicions throughout this game - shaidar9haran, Fleetwood, Freakshow - but with no hard evidence and Freak being virtually cleared, it's hard to be confident in my own theories. At least I've been vocal of my opinions as opposed to over half the players. We're all active, but most of them seem to just be following the leader.

And Freakshow07 being the WIHC makes sense to me - he got us a wolf to win our trust but the wolf was the Rogue wolf, who is on our side. Therefore, the act kinda counter-balances itself. I'm not sure if that makes him a cunning wolf or the WIHC but the more I think about it, the harder it is to give my trust over to him.

Anyway, with 3 hours left in the game it looks like the bullet is between me and Fleetwood. I've got another busy day lined up but I'll be sure to check back later.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 10:51AM Jun 16, 2013

Ok so I doubt fleet is a wolf at the moment, just not feeling it. Unfortunately Yuffie I do think you are a wolf. And because you are a wolf (in my mind) I think Elios is either your partner or the WIHC.

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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EliosAus


Posted: 12:21PM Jun 16, 2013

J-Boy wrote:
Elios seemed quite eager to protect Yuffie so that is where my vote will stay.
How am I defending her? All I said is that neither your nor freak proposed a reasonable explanation for either of your votes. You are so quick to jump on anyone who doesn't just follow the crowd. I'm sorry that I don't share your same "feelings" about Yuffie, but I just don't have them. That's not even remotely close to the same thing as defending.

My vote is staying where it is.

Just a nudge in certain people's direction: maybe let's be slightly more active in our TBs (if you're in one)? Could make the rest of this game move a little better.... Just sayin'.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 12:29PM Jun 16, 2013

Elios wrote:
maybe let's be slightly more active in our TBs (if you're in one)? Could make the rest of this game move a little better.... Just sayin'.


Not a bad idea, there is only ONE team that is utilizing their TB to discuss and strategise about the game


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 01:05PM Jun 16, 2013

I don't even know who to vote for, I am keeping my vote for yuffie for now.

I don't understand why I am suspicious but you can kill me, i am a human.

None of the evidence for people is strong so I decided to join some people on the vote for yuffie.
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