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The Werewolf Game #2945

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This game is moderated by HABS2933. Please read the rules and contact the moderator with any questions or concerns about this game.

Voting Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #6

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  

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scrub88it


Posted: 12:05PM Jul 22, 2013

Thanks Scrub.

Sorry I did not post IDs at the end of last round like I had planned, but was unable to due to circumstances beyond my control.

Here you go:

The HUMANS are in a very dangerous position as their numbers continue to dwindle.

IN THE BEGINNING - there were 15 Players
12 Humans
1 Seer
1 Crypt-Keeper/Back-up Seer
1 WIHC

and 3 Wolves
1 Rogue Wolf

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NOW ONLY 5 PLAYERS REMAIN
3 HUMANS
1 WIHC

and 2 Wolves
1 Rogue Wolf

BOTH Seers are now gone!


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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 12:11PM Jul 22, 2013

Darn, scrubb beat me too it.

Well, hopefully we got two wolves or else we could find ourselves in serious trouble.

I am going to wait and see what HABS has to say, before jumping to any conclusions or ideas. Hopefully she gets on soon? Also wonder why Drum was eaten?


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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scrub88it


Posted: 12:19PM Jul 22, 2013

I will wait too. Hi Stewie. I hope we can count on LH to be a little more active today.
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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 12:58PM Jul 22, 2013

Hey guys!! Will also wait to see if we get any info from HABS . . . . Will be quite busy again today, with my parents coming up. So, I will check in on this game later. . . . . like evening time, after they have gone. I too hope we have successfully shot some wolves!

Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 01:42PM Jul 22, 2013

So, we lost both seers and there are two wolves left. Dang.

So, any sggestions anyone?


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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scrub88it


Posted: 02:08PM Jul 22, 2013

Yes. HABS. We can"t shoot the WIHC, can we? The game will kick out to the wolves, won't it? And then we can't play a last round?
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 02:44PM Jul 22, 2013

I guess I hadn't thought that out too well. If you shoot the WIHC then the system will award the game to the wolves. I guess you'll have to find the other wolves first. The game will end then we'll have a poll to see who you all think the WIHC is.

Unless you guys have a better idea of how to deal with the end-game?


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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 03:53PM Jul 22, 2013

A SPECIAL AWARD

Congrats Stewie!





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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 04:29PM Jul 22, 2013

A FEW FINAL NOTES

1) IN order for the WIHC to be considered among the winners, he or she must be among the living when the game ends.
2)If any other human besides the WIIHC is killed, the wolves will record a victory and there will be a post game poll as to who you think the WIHC was. This poll is open to anyoone still in the game at this point.
3) If a wolf is shot, then the game will proceed as usual and there will be another round in which the above will still apply.
4) IF you have a better idea as to how this should play out, please share it here.


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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scrub88it


Posted: 05:24PM Jul 22, 2013

Longhorn, the game is going to come down to how you vote because I am pretty sure that the rest of us know who everyone is. I know you are on vacation, but last round you went into your tb, and came out with a decision. You can't do that again. You must consider what all of us have to say.

The Faheem vote (and votes that have come after) should tell you all you need to know about our identities. Let me start with Deb's motivation on that vote. If Faheem were in Deb's box wouldn't she have voted for him over you? But she didn't. This is why he had to be a wolf and she had to be the seer. She either divined him or you, knew inside information and put her vote accordingly. Know Faheem is the wolf we killed.

So why didn't Snow vote in that round? She has tried to explain it, but the real reason is that she, too, knew that he was a wolf. But she did not know which wolf. She couldn't vote you, and she couldn't vote him. Because she is the WIHC.

I can defend anything I tell you, so feel free to ask questions as your time permits. I will be voting for the "wolf" wolf, but not until we post more.


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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 06:31PM Jul 22, 2013

What about Jayo? he has slipped by round after round without much suspicion on him. But he could easily be a wolf, or WIHC. Not saying he is or is not because quitefrankly it could be anyone of us that are left. But it is something to consider.
I am going to bed but I will be back in the morning to read more. I am not voting Just yet though. Not until I hear the thoughts of others.

Stewie.


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 11:24PM Jul 22, 2013

Ok, now's the time to do some serious playing. HABS posted the following in round 3. By this round, we still had 3 wolves in the game. So, the wolf that has been shot had to be shot in either round 4 or 5. Round 4, kaipper, round 5, fleet. . . Maybe if we look at the voting for these rounds, we can figure out who the other 2 wolves are.

When the game began we had 15 Players.
- 12 Humans
- 1 Seer
- 1 WIHC
- 1 CryptKeeper/Back-up Seer

-3 Wolves
- 1 Rogue Wolf

As we enter round 3, we have 11 players
-8 Humans
- 1 Seer
- 1 Rogue Wolf

-3 Wolves
- 1 WIHC

I will be giving a clue to the identity of a wolf in a few hurs (probably by NOON (EDT (GMT - 5))

**also, I want to apologize for not being that active today. My parents left later than normal, then my son got on the computer.


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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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scrub88it


Posted: 12:44AM Jul 23, 2013

Snow - this was posted during round three, before Faheem was shot. In this listing only four humans were gone. Two from the first round and two from the second.
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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 01:18AM Jul 23, 2013

I stated that this was posted in round three! I'm not talking about Faheem! I'm not talking about how many humans were gone at that point! I pointed out, that we shot the (1) wolf in either round 4 or 5 (because by Round 3, as indicated by our mod, we still had all 3 wolves in the game by Round 3) and if we go over the voting list for those 2 rounds, we MAY see who MAY be the other two wolves . . . as in who did and did not vote for the players that got shot in rounds 4 and 5 because the way it looks to me. . . . . one of these players, has to be the wolf we shot!

So if my thinking is correct, the wolf we shot is either kaipper or fleet. I think, knowing or at least getting an idea of who this wolf is, may help.

I'm extremely grouchy . . . it's almost 2:30 a.m. and I have a HUGE knot in the middle of my back. Sorry for yelling.


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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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JayoAie


Posted: 03:24AM Jul 23, 2013

Missed most of yesterday with a sprained neck! True story
I was tempted to call in sick to work today but it just isn't sore enough to justify not being there, so here I sit at my desk wondering what on earth has happened this game...

I'll be back on my lunch break to cast my vote but I don't understand why people are overcomlicating things, the basic premise is still the same...I am a human and I want the wolves shot.
Faheem was NOT a wolf and you can take THAT to the bank

Be back later


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 08:16AM Jul 23, 2013

Sorry about your neck Jayo, hope everything is ok and it heals fast.

It's decision time and I have not made a decision... Well, what to do, what to do? WHY is this so hard for me... I'm usually good at this decision stuff.

Stewie.


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Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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scrub88it


Posted: 08:47AM Jul 23, 2013

Snow - I hope you had a good dinner with your parents. You are lucky to still have the opportunity to enjoy such nights. Do either of them still drive?
What I was trying to say is that the wolf could have been shot in either rounds 3, 4 or 5 because HABS did not tell us the results of round three until round 6.

Jayo - Let's say that you are correct about Faheem. I will momentarily ignore my problem with the round three vote (because someone could have voted in such a way that I don't understand yet), and focus on your premise. This means that Kaiper had to be the wolf because fleet is not, and you can take that to the bank. You say you are human, and so am I. We are both logical. We can solve this together. That means the other three players are the rogue wolf, the wolf and the WIHC. And they know each other.

In round 4 LH does not vote, you vote Fleet (human), and stewie votes Kaiper (wolf). Kaiper votes Snow. Snow then chooses Kaiper over fleet to "save" herself. This vote is confusing to me, but that could be bcause all three are good players and trying to hide.

In round 5 you vote drum, I vote Stewie, and Stewie votes Snow. Then Snow and LH come on at the end and vote fleet. And with Kaiper gone the two wolves now know each other. All three of them know Fleet is human. The only way I can reconcile these votes is that Stewie is the Rogue wolf. Do you see a different solution?


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 09:28AM Jul 23, 2013

I understand that no one wants to be the first to vote at this late point in the game, since only 2 other votes are needed to seal someone's fate. The first vote is monumental at this point.
However - please do not leave it up to the computer to decide. As Miss Frizzle says "Take chances, make mistakes, get messy."

Nto sure if anyone will recognise that quote. IT is from a preschool children's show from the 90s,


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 09:44AM Jul 23, 2013

That's the problem though HABS. I would vote but I don't have any idea where to place said vote. WIthout voting blindly and without reasoning behind it. It defeats the purpose of the game.

Then there is the fact that there is basically no time left. So any vote at this stage is down to blind luck. A vote at this stage makes or breaks the game.

Arr, it's a really tough call. Interesting theory scrubb.But where does that leave Longhorn... Ugh this is frustrating.

PS: I used to to love the magic schoolbus HABS. Though that was a long time ago.

Stewie.


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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JayoAie


Posted: 09:59AM Jul 23, 2013

scrub88 wrote:
.

In round 5 you vote drum, I vote Stewie, and Stewie votes Snow. Then Snow and LH come on at the end and vote fleet. And with Kaiper gone the two wolves now know each other. All three of them know Fleet is human. The only way I can reconcile these votes is that Stewie is the Rogue wolf. Do you see a different solution?



Well I have been flying blind through this whole game and if Stewie is the rogue wolf as you suspect, then we need to spend the bullet wisely between Snow and LH. Obviously we don't want to shoot the WIHC, so which ever of them has been more helpful to the wolves is probably the WIHC.

Scrub, from earlier conversation it is becoming more likely that you are human and I'm reluctant to considerr you for the WHIC role as you have not been trying to lead anyone astray with faulty logic or random accusations!


If Stew is the WIHC and was voting tactically then it just makes things confusing and would mean it would be a no-lose scenario to vote either LH or Snow

LH has been the quietest so I would consider to be the least likely to be the 'friendly' wolf
Snow shot the decisive vote on Kaipper (I think) so that would be a case for being the 'friendly' wolf

I'd probably vote for LH based on being the most likely threat to humans, you think this is the right call?


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scrub88it


Posted: 10:28AM Jul 23, 2013

i am just wondering why they choose fleet and not Stewie?
Under this scenario, Stew can't be the WIHC. Why would the wolf and rogue wolf vote a human together? They have completely different motivation.

Here is why I think that Stewie has to be the rogue wolf. Neither Snow nor Longhorn could be. There is no way the rogue wolf voted a straight up human last round.


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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 10:33AM Jul 23, 2013

who do we shoot guys, we need a decuision now there are only 25 mins left.

Well I assume it would happen if they wolf was being coy and shoving the third one under the bus as to make themselves look human, just a thought.

Though that still leaves it 50/50 between snow and LH. My Gut instinct is telling me snow, Like it was last round but what if I am wrong... What do ou guys think.

Sorry if I a wrong, but my vote goes to you, nothing personal just basing this off instinct now.


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Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 10:39AM Jul 23, 2013

Scrub, yes, both my parents still drive and I am thankful to still have them both. The next 5 years though, I believe will be heartbreaking for both myself and my husband. . . . . we see the failing health, etc. I just worked in the kitchen too long last night and my back took a beating. Sorry for being grouchy last night. . . . . you did make a great point that we should consider round 3 votings. I dismissed it because I thought it was clear from HABS that a human had been shot in round 3, but you pointed out that this may not have been the case. An oversight on my part.


I"m going for LH. . . sorry, I may have been wrong about her all along.


Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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scrub88it


Posted: 10:45AM Jul 23, 2013

Would Snow throw Kaiper under the bus?
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JayoAie


Posted: 10:47AM Jul 23, 2013

If Stewie was the rogue wolf, then it could also affirm your suspicion of Snow being the WHIC, which you mentioned at the end of last round
If the bad wolf (My suspect LH) had no votes against then there would have been only one other viable target, the WIHC

This assumes Stewie is the RW

If this is the case, I think Snows vote for LH is a bluff and will switch late on

I'll hold my vote for a little longer to see what happens


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JayoAie


Posted: 10:47AM Jul 23, 2013

The fact that there hasn't been a pile on of votes also says something

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scrub88it


Posted: 10:49AM Jul 23, 2013

Snow can't be the WIHC and vote for the "wolf" wolf. She loses the game at that point. I am voting Snow.
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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 10:54AM Jul 23, 2013

You guys are overthinking this way too much. I'd not throw a fellow wolf under the bus. Not my style and you guys should know this by now. Great game though - everyone has played extremely well. . . . .

Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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JayoAie


Posted: 10:54AM Jul 23, 2013

I hope you're right Scrub!

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scrub88it


Posted: 10:58AM Jul 23, 2013

It does not matter as long as she is one of the two players - wolf or WIHC. The game is still on.
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 10:58AM Jul 23, 2013

We will find out in 5 mins.

Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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JayoAie


Posted: 11:00AM Jul 23, 2013

It has to be LH

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