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Who's the Boss Game #2968

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Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #5

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  

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J-Boy*za


Posted: 09:25AM Jun 18, 2013

Thanks J-Boy.

Story:

"As the group gathered themselves after the shocking, gruesome murders of their neighbourhood friends, they once again set out to find Stewie, this time they would not leave each others side, or stop till they found him, after all there is safety in numbers right?

After about an hour of searching the empty baron rooms, decorated with nothing rotten wood, dusty advertising boards and cobwebs, things were looking bleak, they searched room after empty room, until they came across a locked door.

What's behind here an intrigued shaidar9haran asked. I don't know said a worried shadows, the question I think we should be asking ourselves is Do we really want to find out?

Well what if Stewie is behind there, we can't just leave it, I mean someone had to lock it right. I mean every other door in this place is unlocked. So why this door is, means there is something that someone is trying to hide something right? added mocha613.

I guess so, it makes too much sense but then what are they trying to hide and why? I don't like this but I guess there is no other way? Said a worried RGW4.

Step aside and I will take care of this, I learned to pick locks when I was training to be a cop said a voice from the back of the group, and Skybet stepped into the fray. After inspecting the lock, he asked "anyone got a hair clip or anything like that."

I do said 4wheels, who is usually very quiet and keeps to herself. Handing the hair clip to Sky. Ok everyone step back and give me a minute.

After a moment of meaningless banter amoung the group, Skybet shouts "eureka" as the lock pops open. They take a minute before mocha buts her hand on the handle, hesitating a bit her spine tingle and her hand shakes as she slowly turns the handle. The door finally opens and vhat is inside, no one could have guessed.

There before them was a massive room, eull of metal scraps and more, with some hand made pipe bombs and guns as far as the eye could see. With tonnes of gunpowder to boot, was this what stewie has been doing, creating bombs and guns for god knows what, his own satisfaction of hurting people. He's one sick person, said a more than surprised Limerick.

As they entered the room the group didn't notice that it was all a decoy and trap stewie had set.

Before they realized it, it was too late. shaid had stepped on the pressure plate, the floor gave way under them. Some were quick enough to react and jump to safety. However Mocha, shaid, RGW4 mocha and 4wheels were not so lucky as they plummeted to the floor below with some well placed broken wooden planks below. The group heard a sickening squels as skin met sharp wood. Impalement and death was all that met the five of them.

The remainder of the group couldn't move, it could have been the end of them, and another five people had fallen victim to stewie's murderous ways,

Could he be stopped. The group was dwindling in numbers, and that caused doubt to start creeping into their minds. Would they really see the outside of this building again. Something needed to happen and happen soon, or they'll will just be another memory and name to add to those slain by stewie and that could not happen. Could it?"


Stewie.


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Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 09:33AM Jun 18, 2013

I was busy surfing and the round just started

From this, it looks as though froggy is cleared as both Randy and Skybet voted for her and she logged on yesterday (hope you don't mind me using login times Stewie). Jervis and myself (tentatively I guess from your perspective) are cleared. I guess that leaves kmr, Limerick and shadows. Shadows said she has read that book, she may be the rat or the boss. I'm not sure between the other two.

I will place a safety for Shadows for now. I want everyone else's opinion on this.


Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 01:29PM Jun 18, 2013

I'm not totally opposed to the idea, but I am not too much of a fan either.

I understand that people don't always have time to do a proper analysis of the game, and the problems that can cause.

However on the other hand I just feel it's a cheap and lazy way of doing things and I don't really like that way, it's just too much of a cheap tactic for me.

So yeah I guess every once in a while I will let it slide, but I don't don't want to see it happen regularly if you catch my drift.

On a different not. I would like to hear peoples opinions on the new colour I am using. I like it, and I got tired of the traditional red.

Should I go back to the traditional red of do you prefer the more peach like colour.


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 02:47PM Jun 18, 2013

One thing I was thinking is it's not the only reason I used to clear her.

I think that colour looks really cool!


Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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jervisAau


Posted: 04:10PM Jun 18, 2013

So how do we approach this? Should we still be trying to clear a player or fire the boss? Or attempt both with a split vote? If we split then froggy and I should split our votes so only one can be fired. With 5 employees or 4 if rat is still here, we can split 3-2, or 3-1/2-2. Either way we have an opportunity to fire the boss.
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froggyggAus


Posted: 04:45PM Jun 18, 2013

The players who remain are:

jervis - cleared
froggy - cleared

J-Boy - did I overlook where J-Boy was cleared?
kmrutledge
Limerick
Shadows

I checked the user pages of all still here and nothing really jumps out to suggest who the Boss may be. Even those that have a wiki do not give any clues...

I am voting kmrutledge for now so I do not become a mandatory fire if I do not make it back on.


SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 04:56PM Jun 18, 2013

A safety vote for Limerick for now. I'll definitely be on again in about three hours; I just got home and have a bunch of things to do.
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 07:32PM Jun 18, 2013

don't mean to put you in a mini-majority shadows, but I am also voting Limereck.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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Limerickus


Posted: 08:09PM Jun 18, 2013

Yeah, jboy should be cleared, not the world's safest clear, but I for now will accept that. As far as strategy this round, the most important thing is doing something significant. There is significant reason to suspect me, so I honestly would recommend clearing me right now unless someone has a really strong reason to think someone else is, enough to get 50% of the vote though... I don't think is going to happen. I will stay out of the majority on myself, whomever is fired should help the rest of the way. At this point, I am still kind of leaning kmr's direction, so that is where my vote is still heading. This vote however is not locked.

kmr
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jervisAau


Posted: 09:25PM Jun 18, 2013

Nobody seems to agree with my suggested strategy.
So I will vote for shadows. (Ok confirmed)

That gives us 2 for Limerick and 2 for Shadows and 2 for kmr.

I really hope that mocha isn't watching with joy right now!


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jervisAau


Posted: 09:43PM Jun 18, 2013

Ok I've had a rethink. I don't like the 2-2-2 scenario. So I'm changing my vote to Limerick for the win. He's been my top suspect all game!
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 11:22PM Jun 18, 2013

I'm not sure if Limerick is trying a double bluff or not

Well, lets try and clear Limerick this round. If he isn't boss then we still have one round to choose between Shadows and kmr.

Voting Limerick


Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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Limerickus


Posted: 11:44PM Jun 18, 2013

Yeah, honestly, I think it best that I be cleared. I am just afraid of being in the next round and not being able to convince anyone when it will really matter =p Between kmr and Shady... I can really see it being either, though plan to look a bit more deeply to find a final answer later, but I think it would be a mistake for anyone not to vote me. Even if it is a waste of a round, it will at least give me a position to work from next round.

froggygg - No Vote
J-Boy - Limerick
jervis - Limerick
kmrutledge - Limerick
Limerick - kmrutledge
Shadows - Limerick

Clear
Possible Boss
Majority Vote
Minority Vote
Bold represents a strong clear

Analyzing the clears...

jervis was cleared by the firing of Mathgeek and Faith after round 2... Mathgeek was vague in his vote, but presumably was following suit with jervis, thus two firees presumably voting Jervis, rat-proof clear, though I would feel better knowing Mathgeek had actually locked his vote. Jervis announced Mocha's previous strategy of not hacking the network though, not likely he would do that if this is what was happening - Strong Clear

J-Boy - cleared by the firing of mocha after round 3... Only one firing, this is decidedly not rat proof, mocha has shown the willingness to use this strategy before. J-Boy is a weak clear.

froggy - Cleared by the firing of RGW4 and Skybet after round 4.... This was a solid rat-proof vote... Strong clear.

More analysis forthcoming.

ETA: Edited to add bold to the key of the voting list above.


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ShadowsAca


Posted: 03:05AM Jun 19, 2013

Sorry guys; my friend was feeling down, so I went over and spent the evening and half the night there.

The Limerick strategy sounds good. Just checked my vote and it is locked in place. I'm awfully sorry I missed most of this round. I'd make up for it right now, but Limerick's analysis is pretty thorough, I'd say, and I'm about to fall asleep and drop my iPod on my face (it hurts). Goodnight! (Or good morning... It's 3 a.m. here.)
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jervisAau


Posted: 05:15AM Jun 19, 2013

froggygg wrote:

I am voting kmrutledge for now so I do not become a mandatory fire if I do not make it back on.

Limerick, froggy has stated a vote.


Edit: I don't want to leave it to a 50/50 chance for final round if Limerick is not the boss. There's still a good chance of firing the boss splitting our votes 3-3 this round. It should clear 2 of the 3 uncleared players and just need to hope that mocha wasnt j-boys rat. I don't think anyone would risk voting for J-boy final round. I am changing my vote to kmrutledge and pray I haven't made a critical error.


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J-Boy*za


Posted: 06:24AM Jun 19, 2013

I agree with you there Jervis. I think the votes are good where they are right now. Now all we can do is wit and see who is fired.

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 08:25AM Jun 19, 2013

"Grabs a bag of popcorn and waits intently for the timer to reach 0".

Anyone care to join me?


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 09:13AM Jun 19, 2013

Final Voting List

froggygg ----- kmrutledge
jervis --------- kmrutledge
Limerick ------ kmrutledge

J-Boy --------- Limerick
kmrutledge --- Limerick
Shadows ------ Limerick
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jervisAau


Posted: 09:25AM Jun 19, 2013

I don't think I could stomach it. But thanks anyway Stewie.

I feel too uncertain about the outcome. I hope we have gotten the boss this round. If its not Limerick, I'll feel like such an idiot! If it does go to another round, we really need to ensure we cover all bases.

Kmrutledge has been laying fairly low, maybe because she isn't well?
Shadows has been flying under the radar, a lot like Skybet, but then the memos haven't really pinged shadows.
Limerick, I would say, if he's not boss, then he'd have to be the rat.
J-boy, it would be almost funny if he is the boss.

Ok good luck guys.
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 09:29AM Jun 19, 2013

Darn, we didn't fire the Boss. The game didn't end.
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 10:10AM Jun 19, 2013

jervis wrote:
I don't think I could stomach it. But thanks anyway Stewie.

I feel too uncertain about the outcome. I hope we have gotten the boss this round. If its not Limerick, I'll feel like such an idiot! If it does go to another round, we really need to ensure we cover all bases.

Kmrutledge has been laying fairly low, maybe because she isn't well?
Shadows has been flying under the radar, a lot like Skybet, but then the memos haven't really pinged shadows.
Limerick, I would say, if he's not boss, then he'd have to be the rat.
J-boy, it would be almost funny if he is the boss.

Ok good luck guys.

Yeah I guess i have been acting like I am trying to lay low. But I am getting better.


The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 10:32AM Jun 19, 2013

Hmmm, now this is a predicament. I'll see who gets fired. If I don't well I'll have to do some in depth analysis.

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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jervisAau


Posted: 10:55AM Jun 19, 2013



Yeah I am an idiot.

If 2 of us are fired, it will either clear kmr or Limerick. Unless 1 of each gets fired, then it shows either the rat and 1 employee has been fired or it clears both Limerick and kmr.

If only 1 gets fired then I think we will win it. It will clear 1 player and then we will still have 2 rounds to fire the boss with only 2 possibilities remaining. (That's of course if mocha didnt provide jboy the false clear -which is unlikely)
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jervisAau


Posted: 10:58AM Jun 19, 2013

kmrutledge wrote:

Yeah I guess i have been acting like I am trying to lay low. But I am getting better.


Glad you are feeling better. Hopefully not too tired. At least you're able to follow the game and state your votes.


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Limerickus


Posted: 01:27PM Jun 19, 2013

Okay, so that is not quite how I was hoping it would go, guess we will see how the firings go to get clears :p

At this point, I am even more convinced that kmr is the boss. The memo for this round indicated knowledge of who the rat is. Now, for that to actually happen, assuming it really did and the boss is not just teasing, which, honestly, the hodgepodge of this game makes it really difficult to pin down the rat... My suspicion is that she knows. Now, that requires 33% of the vote.

Last round, we had 8 players, meaning, assuming the rat has not been fired for failing to hack the network, which, I am still lead to believe is not the case given the memos, that means we had 6 real votes. Froggy got three of them, purportedly, two fired in a relatively strong clear, unlikely either was the rat. Third vote purportedly was Shadows. At any rate, 2 votes also went to kmr, one of them by froggy who we at least know is not the boss. Now this would put it in strong candidate for being the boss with 33% of the vote.

Previous nods to kmr in the form of the RGW4 mention, the fact that I still get the feel that the boss wasn't mentioning their own name in the memo, though, possible. I am still pretty convinced of kmr.

Then finally, of the players who did not wish Mochs a happy birthday, KMR stands out. Wishing it in the memo... Now to be fair, this also could be used against me :p
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jervisAau


Posted: 08:10PM Jun 19, 2013



Well lets see who gets fired. If Limerick and either J-boy or Shadows get fired then yeah, I will be voting kmr. By being fired, you'd show yourself as kmrs rat.
If kmr is fired with froggy or myself, then it points strongly to Limerick as boss. And after bashing myself up a bit I will lock it in 100% no faltering!!
If froggy and I am fired (being the only ones 100% clear), that then disproves kmr as boss and then its either yourself or Shadows. And we have 50/50 of a win.
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 11:05PM Jun 19, 2013

Since the game didn't end, the Rat "voted" in either the same majority as the one the Boss "voted" in, or the other one.

... That sounded much more brilliant in my head.

If they voted in the same majority, then two out of the three employees who voted for the other candidate will be fired, and we can clear either kmr or Limerick. Next round, we go for the other one and win.

If they voted in different ones, there would be two majorities of two; the two employees who voted with the Boss would be on the firing list, as would the Rat, who "voted" for the Boss. The Boss would fire the Rat and one of the two employees, which to us would look like one from each list. What sucks is that we wouldn't be able to tell which is which, so neither kmr nor Limerick would be cleared. On the bright side, since the Boss would have to fire the Rat (if he fires the two employees, that'd be the same as the previous scenario), we'd get another two rounds.

I guess I just repeated what jervis said. Sorry, had to work it out again myself to understand it. I'm pre-analyzing this now because I think kmr is more likely to be Boss than Limerick. If she's the Boss, then unless J-Boy is the Rat, I have a 50% chance of being fired.

By the way, I hope the next round won't start at some crazy unholy hour again.
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froggyggAus


Posted: 11:18PM Jun 19, 2013

With 6 players left and 3 voting for kmrutledge and the other 3 voting for limerick, this should be an interesting fire. Too bad the game didn't end with a win - either way!

Good luck everyone and I hope to see you all in the next round!


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