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The Werewolf Game #2892

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #3

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Oldcustardtau


Posted: 06:09AM Mar 19, 2013

2 more humans die. Your seer and three wolves live. If no wolf dies this round, I will give a clue.

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Oldcustardtau


Posted: 06:12AM Mar 19, 2013

Hm, well I must say It seems to me that the wolves are purposely trying to eat the really good players...leads me to believe that the wolves may be less experienced. Looking at the remaining players however, who is inexperienced?

Anyway, SPVing for now, be back in the morning.


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:35AM Mar 19, 2013

Oldcustard wrote:
Hm, well I must say It seems to me that the wolves are purposely trying to eat the really good players...leads me to believe that the wolves may be less experienced. Looking at the remaining players however, who is inexperienced?.

While I agree a lot of the more experienced players like to keep the better players But since the inexperienced players would not know who they should be worried about then they would not know who to eat based on who the good players are.

Jayo - could you explain the point weighting the votes are given again. I am just curious.


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 07:02AM Mar 19, 2013

I don't know that much about Limerick, so I won't be much help figuring out why he was eaten.

SPV for now, but we have to start figuring out who the wolves are. I'll look back through the previous rounds when I have more time.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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JayoAie


Posted: 08:13AM Mar 19, 2013

To the best of my knowledge, the night votes are weighted at 5, 3 and 1
I have found this to be consistent in looking back at several games

A big thanks to the wolves for bot timing out

At work now so will SPV Smithy until I get home later


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 08:24AM Mar 19, 2013

Thanks Jayo. I will try to remember that! I am glad the wolves are active and on top of things. The short nights make the game more fun in my opinion.
I will be heading out soo too for the day will try to get on while I'm gone, but not confident I can.
SPV for SirHar for now.


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 09:07AM Mar 19, 2013

Trying to fabricate reason from eatings is useful, but bringing levels of experience into it I think is fairly irrelevant, I belive limerick and harry were eaten simply because they were most human seeming of us. That's a lesson why its good to keep a low level of suspicion on yourself to avoid being eaten early.

I find it interesting to note that HABS and Jayo both decided to compliment the wolves on the length of night, its always worth keeping note of that.

I also found kitty's comment interesting "we need to start trying to find out who the wolves are". Isn't this always true? The majority of us have been attempting this since round one. A bit of an odd thing to say.

I'm still on my way home right now so I'm just going to place an SPV (assuming Limerick was not the seer) until I have had a closer look at the game a bit later.


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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Smithy*en


Posted: 10:03AM Mar 19, 2013

I'm hoping Limerick wasn't eaten purely for contributing a lot to the game - we already have wolves benefiting from laying low, we don't want humans to have to do the same.

SPVing for now.


"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 10:37AM Mar 19, 2013


Not sure of any reasons why Limerick would've been eaten - It might be a random vote by the wolves.

Haven't got anything majorly good to go on, so I'm keeping an SPV for now kitty.


Beaches and Fire, tis all I need right now!
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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 02:04PM Mar 19, 2013

PianistChris is playing a lot differently this game than he has in the last two games I'vejplayed with him,hso I'm voting him at the moment.

EDIT: The wolves know who threats are, HABS. Just because someone is inexperienced doesn't mean they can't work out who to avoid. ke h


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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 02:11PM Mar 19, 2013

I think even if someone is experienced, they will still somethings find them a threat, not just inexperienced players.

Sorry I was not very active last round, the timing did not go well with my scedule.

Sky, I also think HABS and jayo complimenting the wolves is strange, all players in this game are active in this game so I don't see what was so great about the night being short.

SPV for now.


Fearless.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 03:24PM Mar 19, 2013

I didn't compliment them, I thanked them. Quite different. Not like I haven't made the same comment in other games. And yes GA even inexperienced players can figure out who to avoid given time. But for someone to tealise who the threats are would require more than one round. I don't thimk we can ever figure out the motivation behind the eatings. i know when I am a wolf I like to eat players that seem to make ligttle sense.

Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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SirHarA


Posted: 04:02PM Mar 19, 2013

I will vote Habs....nothing solid,,,just a feeling...

the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 05:56PM Mar 19, 2013

I agree that Chris seems very fishy. The "might be a random vote" comment is more suspicious to me than thanking the wolves for short nights. Last round he was a little too agreeable; much more than anyone else.

HABS is right - Im pretty sure I have seen her thank the wolves as a human before. I don't know if it makes her more human, but Chris is a better shot in my mind.

Quick edit: Tying it up.


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Smithy*en


Posted: 06:10PM Mar 19, 2013

Indeed, having suspected her for it in previous games, I can verify that Habs's comment is fairly typical of her play. This doesn't mean she's human, but it does mean that that statement doesn't suggest she's a wolf. Habs is someone I've struggled to read in the past, finding her suspicious in pretty much every game, but I think I'm starting to get a handle and she seems human this time.

Looking back through things Limerick said that might have gotten him eaten, he seemed cautiously supportive of the PC vote, which could have made him a Seer candidate if correct. And similar to what koin said, Chris has been somewhat non-commital so far, though I haven't played enough games with him to know what his "typical" play is like.

Of the two mini-majorities, I would definitely be more supportive of the PC vote.

Heading off for the night now but will be on again before the round ends, so I'll leave my vote where it is for now rather than spiralling the majorities.

EDIT: Actually, looking back through last round, he did go with the kmr vote quite early, so to call his play "non-commital" was inaccurate... He does seem quite simliar to how he played here as a wolf, although I realise a sample of one does not bring great statistical confidence. Also of note, although we cannot rely too much on the eatings with three different voters, in the second night of that game PC voted for Sky, Spid and GA, so he could very well be behind the eatings of the strong players this time.


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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 06:46PM Mar 19, 2013

I'm going to switch off my vote of HABS because it was an SPV and don't want to put her in a majority without any clues.

I will SPV again to someone with no votes. Might switch over to PC after I think over the evidence and such.


Fearless.
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 06:46PM Mar 19, 2013

It's my turn to be non-committal now I've had a super long day and I'm exhausted, hopefully the round will still be going when I wake up and I will make a more informed decision in the morning, good posts people.

We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 07:37PM Mar 19, 2013


I had gone on the kmr vote last round because with the evidence against her, she seemed most likely to be a wolf.

I'm still sticking with my SPV vote for now.



Beaches and Fire, tis all I need right now!
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 07:46PM Mar 19, 2013

Skybet wrote:

I also found kitty's comment interesting "we need to start trying to find out who the wolves are". Isn't this always true? The majority of us have been attempting this since round one. A bit of an odd thing to say.


Yeah, I guess that's true. I meant it was getting more urgent, and we have to actually find out who the wolves are. I forgot we've still got a few rounds left until it's 'do or die.' I'm too used to 10 player games now .

Anyway, I've been looking at the other rounds, mostly round 2. Round 1, most of the discussion revolved around the SPVD thing. Still some useful information there, but not as much. So, here's my analysis, and a general summary of the game:

SirHar is being himself. Probably human, but you never really know with him. He claims Smithy to be cleared, and suspects Habs, koin, and Chris, with Jayo and I as backups.

GA, other than the hostility mini-discussion between him and Limerick, has been mostly under the radar. Very strongly against the SPVD idea in Round 1, and in Round 2 there wasn't much from him other than, like I said, his discussion with Limerick. He did vote Kmr, and was one of the last to do so. I'm not sure about him.

In Round 1, Jayo posted only to talk about the SPVD thing, except one mention of his SPV for Caramell. Who, it's worth noting, was then shot. But that's happened to me before too, everyone voting for the same person I SPVed for. Not too big of a deal. He also jokingly claimed to be Seer in Round 1. Probably not important. Round 2, he voiced a suspicion of Habs. He then ended the round with the deciding vote for kmr. He's kind of flown under the radar this game. I'm not sure if that's how he normally plays, so he could go either way. Somebody who's played more games with him will probably be better at analyzing him.

Smithy, there wasn't much from Round 1 either. That was pretty typical for this game. He voted for Caramell to protect himself, other than that mostly discussion of the SPVD idea. Round 2, he defended Sky, then was the second to place a vote for kmr. There's really not much to go off of with that shooting, because it makes perfect sense. Both SirHar and Limerick said he was reading human, and I'm thinking human as well.

Koin_era345's Round 1 actions don't say much either. He voted for kmr for "starting a cara majority and [I think this is supposed to be] only posting once this round." Both Caramell and Kmr turned out to be human, but there wasn't much to go off of round 1, so this seems logical. Round 2, he again voted Kmr and she was shot that round. His next idea to shoot was PianistChris. He also seemed to somewhat support Jayo's suspicion of Habs, but only tentatively. That seems kind of wolfish, but it might just be me. So, possible wolf, but there's not much evidence.

Skybet said nothing about the gameplay in round 1, other than "SPV." The rest of his posts were about some picture Har wanted and the SPVD concept. Round 2, he said the Harry eating made sense and the kmr vote was too obvious. He kept his vote on me last round, despite saying he would probably switch to kmr if she didn't show up. He might just not have gotten on in time, but his lack of activity and any helpful posts seem suspicious to me. I'm reading him as a wolf.

Round 1, slammngirl92 gave an SPV and comments on the SPVD idea, like a couple of others did. Her Round 2 activity was giving reasons Harry could have been eaten, mostly revolving around the SPVD idea. She agreed with Sky's opinion that the kmr vote was too obvious, and didn't give us much else. I'm thinking probably human, but not completely certain.

PianistChris: Round 1, a stated SPV and talking about the SPVD. 2nd round, another SPV, then posted his reasoning and switched to kmr. Very under the radar, not much to be taken from that. Not sure on him.

Oldcustard posted once in Round 1, an SPV. Round 2, another SPV, then defended kmr and said that the eating made sense. Again, not much to go off of, an impossible read.

HABS2933 - Round 1 an SPV and thoughts on SPVD. Most people just had that, though, so pretty typical. Round 2, she disagreed with slam on why Harry was eaten. She didn't comment on the suspicions of her from Jayo in her next post, which was about how Kmr probably wasn't a wolf but still a good shot. About a half hour later, she responded to Jayo. The way she's playing makes me think human, unlike a couple others. Not on my wolf list.

Me, I'm human. Someone else can analyze my posts.


So, those are my thoughts so far. I hope you enjoyed it, the one or two people who actually read the whole thing. It took me almost an hour, with a few minutes' break in there. Did you notice how I was kind of abrupt at the beginning, then got into it and started going deeper, then got tired and just said what needed to be said? Much more fun than doing my homework, though. I better get started on that.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 08:18PM Mar 19, 2013

Nice post. Limerick didn't hack you, did he?

I do have to disagree on sky though, after his win last game I doubt he would be afraid to participate.

My list is chris, smithy, GA, OC, har, and jayo. Reading slightly human on jayo, but I haven't played a lot with him. If chris is a wolf green will obviously go down on my suspicion scale significantly. OC is, as kitty said, a virtually impossible read, so I'll leave him alone until later. Smithy and har would be left, so If I had to guess right now I would say chris, smithy, and har.


Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 08:24PM Mar 19, 2013

Smithy wrote:
Indeed, having suspected her for it in previous games, I can verify that Habs's comment is fairly typical of her play... but I think I'm starting to get a handle and she seems human this time.

I have, and I am! Glad someone sees it!

kitty-cat wrote:
SirHar is being himself. Probably human, but you never really know with him. He claims Smithy to be cleared, and suspects Habs, koin, and Chris, with Jayo and I as backups.

This is typical Har - he just makes a list of people he "suspects" with no rhyme or reason to it.

I have no idea right now, sort of thinking Har but not for any reason I can verbalize - and no it has nothing to do with his vote on me. I will post a vote for koin even though I don't suspect him at all. Will come back later to make a more informed choice.


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Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 08:54PM Mar 19, 2013

koin_era345 wrote:
Nice post. Limerick didn't hack you, did he?

No, but I'm pretty sure that's the longest post I've ever made on Braingle. That had actual content, anyway. Maybe some random pictures I put somewhere were longer.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 10:37PM Mar 19, 2013

I'm struggling to find someone better to shoot than PianistChris so that's where my vote will stay.
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Oldcustardtau


Posted: 11:31PM Mar 19, 2013

Looks like kitty's taken limerick's place now he's dead I will probably end up voting chris, but we'll have to see. It's not exactly a shot in the dark, but it's probably the best choice we have.

Skybet wrote:
It's my turn to be non-committal now I've had a super long day and I'm exhausted, hopefully the round will still be going when I wake up and I will make a more informed decision in the morning, good posts people.


Come on sky, that's not like you! No, it doesn't really matter, and you seem pretty human.

Kitty did use a lot of effort their and I'm thinking that could be slightly wolfy (it's definitely not her usual style), but probably human. Absolutely no reads off har whatsoever, smithy has never once seemed wolf to me, and various others play their usual style.

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Skybet*gb


Posted: 02:45AM Mar 20, 2013

kitty is channeling the spirirt of Limerick

PianistChris wrote:

I had gone on the kmr vote last round because with the evidence against her, she seemed most likely to be a wolf.

I'm still sticking with my SPV vote for now.


Come on Chris, you can do better than that! Who are your suspects, and why? While people are voting for you, it's a good time to try and defend yourself and try and persuade people to change, otherwise you have no hope

I just don't know about Chris, so I'm sitting on the fence on that one. This game has been tough so far, not really getting a strong signal from anyone. I guess at a push I would say HABS/Jayo and maybe Har. So that's where my vote goes this round, to register my suspicion for HABS so I can look back in later rounds.


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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Smithy*en


Posted: 03:16AM Mar 20, 2013

Well, the case against Chris is pretty good, other than his lack of defence which doesn't match how he reacted in his previous wolf game, but on principal I'm certainly not going to try to rescue someone because they didn't offer a defence or any suspects. Besides, his efforts at defence in that game were unsuccessful, so he could just be trying a new tactic here... And I don't think there's much in the Habs vote.

Voting Chris.

EDIT: Note we're still waiting for Habs to get a vote in, so we don't want the round to end early before then.

Also, nice work with that post, kitty. Limerick would be proud of that one.


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 04:54AM Mar 20, 2013

Hey sorry was out until after midnight then went to bed. I don't know what you see in my behaviour that seems suspiious to you Sky (and Har to a lesser extent) but hey whatever. ;)

Reading through the posts I think will go ahead and join the Chris vote, he seems a good candidate and his play is not quite what I have seen before.

I know I'm human, I am pretty sure Koin is, Smitny, OC and GA also seem to be above suspicion. The rest I am not sure about.
Chirs it is


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 05:00AM Mar 20, 2013

VOTING LIST
With ~1 HR left in the round:
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.

GreenApples27 voted for PianistChris
HABS2933 voted for PianistChris
koin_era345 voted for PianistChris
Oldcustard voted for PianistChris
Smithy voted for PianistChris

SirHar voted for HABS2933
Skybet voted for HABS2933

Jayo voted for Smithy
kitty-cat voted for Skybet
PianistChris voted for kitty-cat
slammngirl92 voted for Oldcustard


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Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 05:20AM Mar 20, 2013

50 minutes left. I am going to switch over to Chris to get a bigger majority. You guys already stated what the suspicions were so I don't feel it's necessary to do.

Fearless.
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celticherotus


Posted: 04:54PM Mar 20, 2013

Alas, another human, but not the seer, dead. Wolf clue next round.

I'm just an ordinary average guy with nothing to lose.
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